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The Mother of all LEADS thread
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WAVELOGIX
Wavelogix
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Posted : May 16, 2006 19:59
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On 2006-05-02 22:25, Troll wrote:
This is a quite fun way to make leads, well at least for me:
First you make the lead sound you want on any synth you fin comfortable. When you done the sound, you sequence a few notes of the notes you want to be played and record them. Next you load the samples into a sampler and play with the loop points and set the samples to loop. This will drasticly change the sound if the loop is short enough, but remember to let them play in the right key. Next you can assign each note to a different level of panning, meaning that when you actually start making the lead, every note always plays from the same degree of panning. I donŽt know about you, but in my opinion it is quite fun sounding and fun to do.
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post a sample you did with this method .. ? im curious .!!! |
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makus
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Posted : May 22, 2006 14:17
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Troll
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Posted : May 23, 2006 19:20
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On 2006-05-22 14:17, makus wrote:
isn't it easier just to modulate pan in synth? =)
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Completely different thing! Using the sampler and the samples loop points you can construct completely different sounds from the original, saving the most important bits from the sound but giving it an extra "kick". The panning is just a bonus. Will send an example when I have the time...
Edit: To play with a voice sample in this way is very much fun and have been done a bit too much in other genres, eg. Fat Boy Slim. When I think about it, quite much of Aphix TwinŽs sounds are made this way, or at least sounds like it, but when using sounds that is more "psy", it sounds a bit more (uŽll never guess) psy.
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dual core
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Posted : May 27, 2006 20:15
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hey hey how is it people??? yo does any one have a clue how abomination get there leads ......... they sound so sweet ...... |
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fregle
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Posted : Jun 9, 2006 21:15
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On 2005-10-28 02:12, hush wrote:
could any one give me some advice about making a dark lead and some psy 'blip' sound's on reason...just cant get to it and it make me sad...
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What your synth needs to make this sound:
- 1 osc that can be put in sawtooth form
- 1 highpass filter with resonance
- automatable filter cutoff
- automatable pitchbend
as you can see, just about every synth can make this sound... Synth most used for it is the nord lead (or a nord-lead-clone, like discovery or synth1).
First of all turn off all effects and modulation.
If you have multiple osc's, make sure only one is used. Put that osc in sawtooth mode. Pitch it down 2 octaves if possible, but not necessary (you can also just use the lower octaves of the piano roll, or pitch down the entire synth 2 octaves).
Put a high pass filter on it (resonance is personal choice, turning it to auto-oscillation will create a ringing sound that's very usefull too)... I prefer to put it in key track mode, but it's not necessary...
If you press a low note now you will already hear the o so typical sound, the lower you go, the slower it cracks... Use filter cutoff to change the timbre of the cracks, and pitch bend to change the speed of the cracks... Automate/modulate those 2 parameters in your song to create a pattern, this is all single-note stuff, no need for melodies... |
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fregle
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Posted : Jun 9, 2006 21:16
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the noise-strobo:
What your synth needs to have:
- 1 osc that can be put on any form of noise (white noise is most used, but it really doesn't matter)
- 1 bandpass filter
- 1 LFO (or automate)
Effects needed:
- 1 autogate (but you can automate amplitude of the synth too if you want)
disable all modulation and all effects.
disable all oscillators except the one that will be making the white noise.
put a bandpass filter on it, no resonance. modulate the cutoff with an lfo (preferably synced to the tempo), or automate it for more control.
Put the gate on it, set it in the pattern you like (or automate the amplitude of the synth, although that gives you more control, it doesn't always sound good)
make a loop with one single note spanning the entire loop.
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eran m
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Posted : Jun 22, 2006 18:05
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im trying 2 make coupele of sounds that i heard in the track "kimochi" by the portugeze producer n3xu5....
the first one comes around 1:08 min
the seconed comes around 2:29 min
if any 1 can help me.............
thanks ahead.... |
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gill
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Posted : Jun 22, 2006 20:25
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On 2006-05-16 19:59, WAVELOGIX wrote:
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On 2006-05-02 22:25, Troll wrote:
This is a quite fun way to make leads, well at least for me:
First you make the lead sound you want on any synth you fin comfortable. When you done the sound, you sequence a few notes of the notes you want to be played and record them. Next you load the samples into a sampler and play with the loop points and set the samples to loop. This will drasticly change the sound if the loop is short enough, but remember to let them play in the right key. Next you can assign each note to a different level of panning, meaning that when you actually start making the lead, every note always plays from the same degree of panning. I donŽt know about you, but in my opinion it is quite fun sounding and fun to do.
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post a sample you did with this method .. ? im curious .!!!
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why should he post a sample, if you experiment yourself you'll find it all out 
rendering pads is/was the best thing I possibly could discover ...
http://trishula-records.com/artists-pages/melorix.html |
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D-Alien
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Posted : Jun 23, 2006 00:25
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rendering pads is really Great!!! U can do it even If u have lack of Inspiration. open your favorite synth. write notes, render, this, change some parameters, render one more time, make some small automatizations, render one more time!!! every time u bounce some pads, short, long, evolving, dry, with or without effects (but always with no limiters, normalizaers, boosters...) and than man can discover new worlds... aplying more effcts, cuting, reversing, applying granulators, etc. etc.. the fun of tweaking is Infinite!
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www.myspace.com/oxidelic
www.myspace.com/setanicmusic
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gill
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Posted : Jun 23, 2006 14:25
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On 2006-06-23 00:25, D-Alien wrote:
rendering pads is really Great!!! U can do it even If u have lack of Inspiration. open your favorite synth. write notes, render, this, change some parameters, render one more time, make some small automatizations, render one more time!!! every time u bounce some pads, short, long, evolving, dry, with or without effects (but always with no limiters, normalizaers, boosters...) and than man can discover new worlds... aplying more effcts, cuting, reversing, applying granulators, etc. etc.. the fun of tweaking is Infinite!
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Amen
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keyop
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Posted : Jun 28, 2006 17:40
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Where do you guys usually cut your leads? and do you ever cut any high frequencies? |
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0v3rd0s3d
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Posted : Jun 28, 2006 18:19
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well it depends on the sound u want to make and on the other sounds u've got on the background...
usually yes, i cut all my leads at about 7k or 8k, never more, sometimes less... it depends on the sound u want to make
maybe i'm saying s*it
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keyop
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Posted : Jun 28, 2006 18:31
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Thanks for reply Ov3rdO3d.
Nah, i don't think your'e talking sh*t.
Sure it's gonna depend on what else is going on, i was just looking for a rough guide.
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Andrew
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Posted : Jul 2, 2006 13:01
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great thread! |
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fregle
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Posted : Jul 3, 2006 21:40
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creating a pitch-sweep:
the first way:
needed:
- at least 1 osc
- an envelope that can be assigned to the pitch of one or more osc's (hardwired or via modulation matrix)
how to do it:
- create a timbre that u like with the osc('s) and the filter
- make sure that u leave 1 envelope free (that means: leave 1 env unassigned)
- assign the free envelope to the pitch of the osc('s)
- set the attack to a very high value, the higher the value, the longer the sweep... If u can sync the envelope it's even better.
the second way:
needed:
- at least 1 osc
- automatable portamento
how to do it:
- create a timbre that u like with the osc('s) and the filter
- set portamento to 0
- For the rest u need to automate portamento...
- make a short 8th note in the sequencer where you want the sweep to start, and on the note u want it to start
- put a long note 1 16th behind the short one, make it end where u want the sweep to end, make sure it's on the frequency that u want the sweep to end.
- with automation open up the portamento entirely 1/32th or 1/16th after the start of the short note.
- gradually close the portamento with automation, make sure portamento is 0 again right at the moment the sweep ends.
- it will sweep from the first to the second note in exactly the length u want... This way is much more flexible then the first way.
the third way:
needed:
- at least 1 osc
- automatable pitchbend
how to do it:
- create a timbre that u like with the osc('s) and the filter
- create a long note, starting where u want the sweep to start, and ending where the sweep should end, on the frequency u want the sweep to start.
- automate pitchbend as u like...
- this is easier and just as flexible as the second way, but on most synth the maximum bend is just not big enough to use this way... Synths with a very variable pitchbend are ideal for this way.
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