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PoM
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Posted : Nov 16, 2012 20:24
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true love these cans.. can bring them everywhere, solid built and dont cost a arm and a legg.. punch for breakfast ! if they break i buy a other pair tomorrow..got them recomend by one of the pionner of electronic music saying these have the best low of any cans and he used a tons , he use them even in pro studios..making tunes on the road.. but after it s about using what you know inside out ... i can say the akg 701 are the second pair of headphone that i like as much but for totally different picture with a very nice soundstage and lot of details in mids and highs |
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Taisto
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Posted : Nov 18, 2012 03:36
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But still i have to say that beware all K701 thinkers, there is some sort of sibilant problem of those cans. It is to me just a small minus issue, but for some it could be taken more seariosly.. That can be the only ''major'' problem of those cans, anything else too tragic i dont find what so ever. That problem can be fixed atleast partly by getting ''darker'' headphoneamp i think, but the cans are not perfect, but they couldn't be that anyway, right.. There is no perfect cans, perfect cans are which you yourself find perfect to your own needs.
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Posted : Nov 18, 2012 13:02
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Posted : Nov 18, 2012 14:43
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I think that HD600 are very popular inside mastering business, but in my opinion HD600 mixing results sounds different from decent monitors, unlike 701, which are very close to monitor sound as good as from decent studio monitors.
I'v heard though that classical music mastering engineers prefer more Akg than Sennheiser..
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Posted : Nov 18, 2012 15:11
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On 2012-11-18 03:36, Taisto wrote:
But still i have to say that beware all K701 thinkers, there is some sort of sibilant problem of those cans. It is to me just a small minus issue, but for some it could be taken more seariosly.. That can be the only ''major'' problem of those cans, anything else too tragic i dont find what so ever. That problem can be fixed atleast partly by getting ''darker'' headphoneamp i think, but the cans are not perfect, but they couldn't be that anyway, right.. There is no perfect cans, perfect cans are which you yourself find perfect to your own needs.
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it disturbed me just after swtiching cans to compare their sound but after some short times,seconds.. the ears get used and it dont become a issu for me , still probably contribute to make some tunes a bit more unpleasant than what they really are i dont know..
the bass reponse seems to translate well but the way the cans is balanced it make it hard to judge the low under 50Hz maybe higher to me, it s easier on cans with low in your face but that usually have less mid details cause of this..while on the akg i think nail a good balance between low mids and highs details i can see how somone could not like their low representation |
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Taisto
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Posted : Nov 18, 2012 16:37
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I really like Akg analytical and clean low end. For example to me personal reference track of very good psytrance production could be Astrix products (like Red Means Distortion- album) where highs are never harsh and bass has power but it dont take over the deep athmospheric mids. Just because of excellent mixing and mastering skills behind it. And it is very enjoyable to hear those well produced tracks from Akg's.
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 18, 2012 17:30
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i haven t listened much music with them yet, but from the few modern full on tunes some in the sonic species album sound ok while many sounded worst..no surprise what sound ok on my monitors sound from ok to not that ok on the akg, it show well what is wrong, from the low to the highs.. but in the low end,sub area i dont hear much , i dont listen loud and maybe cause it s new could be some reasons. some say when listning loud it get even better , it s probably true in the lowend.
if i listen some old goa before all that new full on will sound way too flat and boring the way its balanced and the dynamic. sound like a flat line, from the low to the highest freqs , maybe even more than on my monitors as it really jumped to me.. like wtf, it s so so flat after lisetning Ap trust in trance album..
it really need high quality to sound great, then it s probably sonic orgasm.
it s funny the difference with my ath M50 , the akg is more cans i want to sit in a sofa and enjoy all the details..hallucinate on the sound.. while the ath M50 is more the cans you put it on head and you isntanely move your head and wanna move if the sound is good. akg is more laid back with tons of details, ath is in your face |
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Taisto
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Posted : Nov 18, 2012 18:02
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Yeah, i know what you mean, like these Focals i would take to bussdrive or my workingplace if i want hear music, also then their boosted basses will do just fine i think. Or when one imagine how music could sound from PA's. But yeah, Akg most defenetly at home in dark with music, movie or why not some PC game.
And about that loudness, i usually set the volume there where sound ''opens'' itself, just between backround and too front in your face. Then i can focus the overall sound better..
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Posted : Nov 18, 2012 18:17
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hallucinating on the sound, getting in trance like this listening is exaclty why i started listening psy trance .
i find this pleasure back with the akg,i can stop focusing on the mix (if it s decent) and just trip on all the details something that never happen on my monitors .
i could be wrong but i would not be surprised that it s a can that is made for audiophile,it s possible to really get immersed into the sound something that is long time i didn t experience like this.
now i need to find some music that sound really great |
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Babaluma
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Posted : Nov 18, 2012 18:53
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On 2012-11-18 14:43, Taisto wrote:
I think that HD600 are very popular inside mastering business, but in my opinion HD600 mixing results sounds different from decent monitors, unlike 701, which are very close to monitor sound as good as from decent studio monitors. |
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i'd have to disagree, i've never heard a pair of cans translate so well to my ATC monitors. with the "a/b button press" comparison, it's actually pretty astounding how well they translate/how similar they sound.
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cool, so that'd be great if you were working on classical music then, right? 
http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma |
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Taisto
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Posted : Nov 18, 2012 23:45
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On 2012-11-18 18:53, Babaluma wrote:
i'd have to disagree, i've never heard a pair of cans translate so well to my ATC monitors. with the "a/b button press" comparison, it's actually pretty astounding how well they translate/how similar they sound.
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No problem, but which ones are better Atc or Sennheiser in your opinion?
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cool, so that'd be great if you were working on classical music then, right?
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no offence, i just heard that, but that can make sense anyway, how Akg can deliver the sounds ''classical'' and natural way. Kind of neutral way. Not boosting things.
I think even more important is to get familiar to the cans your using no matter what cans you are using, when their are helping and solving problems in your personal situation. I would want to try out all possible cans if i could to find the best ones, but that can be a long run. To me Akg solving more than Sennheiser, that i know..
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 19, 2012 02:28
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i think it s about taste yes, some like more dt 880 or akg701 over hd 600 and vice and versa.
with the akg 701 it seems the amp really matter that could maybe why he didn t like it too, depending what he used. |
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Babaluma
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Posted : Nov 19, 2012 12:57
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yeah, it all comes down to subjective taste in the end! and you're totally right on getting to know your room/monitor/can combo, definitely the most important thing.
i'd say the ATCs sound better than the HD600s, but then you'd hope they would do, costing around ten times as much! they have an extremely neutral presentation, it's almost like they disappear and just let the music though. if the music is good and well recorded, it's sounds it, if the music is badly recorded/mixed/mastered, it shows up like under a microscope. 
i mainly use the HD600s for final QC checking. always good to check stuff on a variety of systems.
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Posted : Nov 27, 2012 21:54
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