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The Big Kick & Bass YES or NO... Thread

Sonica
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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 17:01
ok good food thought here.. and what about the newest example?

- yeh I personally wouldn't set phase to modulate - it was a preset and well because im rushing out examples I have overlooked and forgot to remove those modulations I otherwise wouldn't have that being the truth that also goes for the 2voices and velocity routings , in otherwords im an idiot for rushing

but I am taking note about my cuts

so does anyone use multiband or dynamic eqs on bass and kick
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Xsze


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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 19:53
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On 2015-04-24 17:01, Sonica wrote:

so does anyone use multiband or dynamic eqs on bass and kick





I think yes, that's behind some plastic lazer-y tight bass sounds, I think because majority is using Waves, C4/C6 are usual suspects, upward compression preset as starting point, I mean try OTT from Xfer or that same preset from Live's multiband dynamics, dunno, little over the top for me personally, but if used really subtly/tastefully in some cases, good choice.

Also on kicks








On other hand, good single band compressor for bass is TDR Feedback Compressor II/Kotelnikov, "Bass Guitar" preset as starting point, than set release for both peak/rms on 1/32th note accordingly to bpm, little threshold tweak, gain reduction and attack by ears, really good one

http://www.tokyodawn.net/tdr-feedback-compressor-2/
http://www.tokyodawn.net/tdr-kotelnikov/


Also this one, it's kinda initial version of PSP Vintage Warmer, if tweaked right, nice

http://www.digitalfishphones.com/main.php?item=2&subItem=3
vipal
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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 20:19
the velocity to filter modulation is no problem, not needed either, you will miss it probably when you take it away in this preset.

try lfo to filter ab, play with gain of lfo (start half way the dial) choose saw as shape and play with the frequency, it starts to sing at one point.

like said one osc.

if you want i send you sylenth bl presets.

man, such a complicated thread abt a simple kb.

and kick; i like kicks that are close to the fundamental of the bass, plus one, minus one semitone.

and kick that dont eat the headroom, means a kick where the peak and rms dont have 20 db difference but more like 9 db. i find it very difficult to tame a nice sounding kick with huge diff between peak and rms with compression into a non-headroom eating kick, still sounding good. so i check it from the beginning. normally these are compressed kiks. there was a kick sample pack here, new kicks around the block or something like that it was called. there are nice ssl compressed kicks.

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Sonica
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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 20:41
just tried some DMT for the first time - pretty sure I just got electrocuted by some wavey magnetic insectiods until I woke staring up at a cathedral ceeling.. hmm why doesn't religion mention magnetism that form into praying matis type creatures that help pul your soul out from the body???hmmm

there a lot like what you see on mushrooms! the wavy entities that form in the air that is..
wel my breath now tastes like a new pair of shoes funnily enough and got a numb tongue !


anyway on topic - cheers vipal - ok nice one and thanks for that info Xsze

I wonder if the OP is learning anything from this haha


          Devasya Savitur
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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 21:08
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On 2015-04-24 20:41, Sonica wrote:
. hmm why doesn't religion mention magnetism that form into praying matis type creatures that help pul your soul out from the body???hmmm




It does actually, they are called demons/fallen angels

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thanks for that info Xsze



Sure man, hope it helps
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 21:22
wel what ever they were dancing and swirling until my forhead collapse in on itself , i just got unzipped - like they know you shouldn't know , what the fuck is going on here and what do you do now that you know

christanity needs to stop drawing pictures of god like an old man with a beard..

no him either its insectoid slash hindu shiva slash elephant slash snake .. etc etc

this is the first image that springs to mind in people when you start mentioning an idea of "gods" dam man! - so cut it out you lot and go seek

a convincing argument to goverment would be, psilocybin and DMT open same doors - fungi and the tree being the first element s of nature for life to exist - say no more to what the experience itself shows knowing that! truth !



anyway .. more practice more theory

cheers
          Devasya Savitur
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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 21:30
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christanity needs to stop drawing pictures of god like an old man with a beard..



That's actually what folks like Family Guy/South Park for example are doing in their parodies, that's picture/theme of mocking actually

But let's not get any more off

vipal
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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 21:38
why u on internet? .. just wondering.. whats the pull during/after being high on something to go to a blue page with imiginairy fellow humans ... i mean now we're anyhow offtopic           http://soundcloud.com/vipal
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 21:39
yeh your right there actually haha - family guy did spring to mind when wrote that, very true though.. infected minds dunno about infected mushroom eh .. its a scary prospect


edit - im on this forum because im connected to it .. its was a flash over in minuets I feel like I feel before I left so hello I am back gunna shoot off again in afew hours and no doubt il b back

and getting these elements balanced is as important to me as seekin truth is,they are the same are they not? that's why I am here again... lapping up knowledge ...


ONTOPIC - yep there is almost always I hear yes hear with my ears either a phaser or some sort of multiband tone - like the character you get from the ll3 multi from waves - quadrafuzz ish? which got me wondering theres more than a simple notch here n there

frisbh sayin don't cut deep but phasers use a type of notching to get that character - so with your eq can we simulate that juicy thud you get from doing so u hear me?          Devasya Savitur
Xsze


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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 21:49
Weird stuff

Anyways, just remembered, sweet spot for endorphin compressor attack is from 20 and up, release from 50+ like usual, but on attack you will notice weird stuff bellow 20, so heads up about that, but really try that thing to give it punch, TDR Feedback for more groovy feel, it really works nice like that.

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ONTOPIC - yep there is almost always I hear yes hear with my ears either a phaser or some sort of multiband tone - like the character you get from the ll3 multi from waves - quadrafuzz ish? which got me wondering theres more than a simple notch here n there



You have good ears, that's for sure, there's something about phasing in there, could be just easily by the bands, but it's adding nice to it.
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 21:51
whats weird stuff? and yeh il experiment on the comps I do use - dynamics plug from sonnix is a fav , just I read theres no need to compress bass... why does one need to when we can saturate the peaks instead - take for example Saturn some of those setting are better than compressing - or do both? I don't know - I only tend to use if I felt I needed it, like shitty samples or heavy snyth and fx grps that needed a good old expand comp and q
          Devasya Savitur
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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 21:54
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On 2015-04-24 21:51, Sonica wrote:
whats weird stuff? and yeh il experiment on the comps I do use - dynamics plug from sonnix is a fav , just I read theres no need to compress bass... why does one need to when we can saturate the peaks instead




Dynamic movement/groove
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 21:56
what about expansion? seems to give off a lot more Dynamics and movement - il give what you were talking about ago though anyways since you went to the effort of sharing

experiment further with multiband gates for fx on bass ?


now were talking           Devasya Savitur
Xsze


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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 22:04
Whatever delivers really, I enjoy just messing around, so for sure, that's how things become actually interesting, no limits.


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On 2015-04-19 00:10, Sonica wrote:
2006 was at a peek for me..



Same here, golden age of full on
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 24, 2015 22:17
yeh it was real, powerful - in return inspiring sound then - voice of COD Organic records mastering sound amazing colin must of got some shared trade in secretes for that unique tone aswel haha , yeh you colin and the rest of ya ..

synth lines where real as real, basslines that sound impossible to make etc etc.. Heatna.koot remember that compilation .. fuck









          Devasya Savitur
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