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The Big Kick & Bass YES or NO... Thread

Sonica
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 21:12




I had realised that bazzism decided to bug fuck me and not let me change root notes, so ive scraped that and made academy kick my go to...

hope her arse is big enough for you now           Devasya Savitur
moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 22:22
your last kick was too flat dude hurts in ears in the highs. turn down the presence


found the muddy shit. was a lowcut on the kickbass bus . it was to high.


          
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moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 22:23
and your new try needs more punch in the bass around the 80-120hz area.           
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Sonica
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 22:46
sorry, "when u pay more attention with eyes instead of ears" arrh





ok fixed? balanced?

yours is improved, stil some boomyness coming from somewhere though this could b down to taste or a mix problem, either from kick sweep or simply because of octave/note choosen, one of them things that may resolve itself in the context of a mix no dout who knows until.. jeesh any one would think were budding engineer's lol than musicians..

perfectionism is a great to a point - takes time to evolve
its not very often we will keep it running on its own and they do (that I hear of) theres no effort in keeping it smooth, perhaps why not many tend to roll them on there own and even if they did they probably wouldn't care half asmuch as we obviously do - so I see only roads to improvement's.

once im happy when your happy is when the next level begins
          Devasya Savitur
moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 22:54
your sounds like a diffrent kick. and that one is cappy. to much dirt, so i cant say well...

yeah i kinda like that boomyness


edir: think you made something creepy in processing your kick ....           
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wirakocha
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 22:56
folks try to use a simple EQ not boost more than 3db in the low end and -3db to +6 db in the mid and high,Eq pultec style works awesome!

          d(((+_-)))b
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Sonica
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 23:13




yeh you were right , solod it my amp env on kick wasn't smooth..

forgot about pultecs , there are primarly for kick drums, they attun and boost at same time resulting in a strange warmth ..

wil give them ago aswel.. fucking thing
          Devasya Savitur
wirakocha
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 23:25
here is a great article about the secrets for make trance...give a read.

http://www.soundonsound.com/sos/nov04/articles/darrentate.htm           d(((+_-)))b
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Sonica
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Posted : Apr 22, 2015 00:25
ok so heres a kick a drum on its own quickly made in bazzism,working fine now , hp and lo pass some mids and highs dipped simple pro-q





now my question is why the fuck arnt my waveforms and sound consistent in soundcloud,whats is that strange shitty artefact that gets glued into the sound after the upload process but fine in ableton...?????

how can I ask for accurate judgment when this is happening?!


          Devasya Savitur
moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Apr 22, 2015 02:04
well.... i hear you and its definitelly crappy... but remember.. a hit is even through a telephone no shit....           
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Sonica
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Posted : Apr 22, 2015 02:21
lol how humble of you to say...
but with that shit artefact happening it screws up my filters etc - and wel we are after all just doing kick and basses here

lets not judge to harshly until its in context with a full workings of a tune..

im in headphones whats your excuse

ive made the mistake of completely relieng on my phones I love them that much and really I should of slapped on some speakers just to see if im balancing right...

ooooppssiee me , think im going to leave the low end until my room and monitoring is right and learn otherthings until that time is ready


          Devasya Savitur
moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Apr 22, 2015 02:31
thats also true you cant judge without context.
but its really like that.

my escuse? lets see. build up new studio have now flush mounted monitors. struggling still a bit with the bafflestep ^^           
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Sonica
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Posted : Apr 22, 2015 02:39
well look lets b honest here - a psy bassline is dead simple to dial up on a synth... just a closed saw with abit of decay on envelope, amp and velocity..

kick - you know the drill.....

and done so why isn't this running smoothly..




          Devasya Savitur
moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Apr 22, 2015 03:36
its not -

u need a high grade on experience. u need to know about eq and compression, REALLY know! that can take years sometimes...


AND

u need good tools. u need to learn wich tools are the right for you. not all eqs provide solid low cuts... and so on. and then you need the ears and of course the right room to make real bassline with kick that will work together. so its not that simple if you think about what is all around that simple saw wave,           
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Sonica
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Posted : Apr 22, 2015 19:01
yes yes yes we all know this           Devasya Savitur
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