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moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Apr 18, 2015 21:28
nope. i never heard of the imposcar.

90% of all my synth work (even snare and hats) are done in zebra. sometimes i use a omnisphere. psybassline is trilian... always my go to bass.

and the dnb. stuff. is all done by zebra except the kick. but even decent dnb kicks can be easily done in zebra too. yay! but i realize that the dnb stuff NEEDS a snare drum with a tight bottom. gotta fix that, maybe better take sample of a real one.

and thanks for the words glad you like em.


and hey i don't think that there is no space for psytrance artist. i more think we have space more than ever cause the scene if full of shit music out there. people do not even know about real psychedelic tunes. they forgot about.... and changed into a darken speed sniffing community, at least at my place in switzerland. and believe me the "prog" here is a MOTHERFUCKING BIG COMMERCIAL THING. they will start to make ultra partys like the old frankfurt or berlin techno and trance times. im talking about mass events in stadiums with 8000+ people... yeah neelix and those stuff... maybe 2 years and they have the prog there... and there will be no more little bit of psy or trance n that sound left. just another house variation. some with vegans, elves and of course MORE drugs than the other techno partys

so a lot of space for psy artist out there. even if it changes back to smaller communities, more tribal and more PSYCHEDELIC. its exactly what i would prefer in that case.




          
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Sonica
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Posted : Apr 19, 2015 00:10
yeh that's very very true... 2006 was at a peek for me.. now there seems to be a lot of "stuff" clogging up the rebirth canal if u catch my drift ..
yeah i hate it when they rub there un-humbled success in your face... as for geometric elves DMT will also be present.. just so you know


time for rebirth movement by keeping it real and to where it was born from...
The Unknowable the unseen, the divine shit that seems to enjoy hanging back behind the scenes generating this show...

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          Devasya Savitur
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 19, 2015 17:38




trying out a couple of new eqs and other plugin , just a simple kick and bass , we have in context and without

this first being not in context,. just need to know about he overall balance and mix not the idea as wel, its simple .. 8bars .. GOo..............
          Devasya Savitur
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 19, 2015 19:29
been resolved - sounded abit muffled.. I am trying different phasers without modulation and setting a frequency pitch spot - works create on kicks, just experimenting really..


is there a emco icon for tumble weed ?           Devasya Savitur
Hypereal


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Posted : Apr 19, 2015 21:17
Too pumpy for my taste doesnt have that fast roll.
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 19, 2015 21:24
fair enough dude, yeh its a slow bpm and its off beat missing the 3rd.. ive tweaked it more since then il upload soon for your ears to judge and possibly correct
          Devasya Savitur
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 00:29




brushed up I hope.. if not then I evolve
ment to be 16 bars sorry over cooked the grid slightly

cheers

          Devasya Savitur
wirakocha
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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 01:43
your k&b sound weak your kick need to keep the subtle (10hz to 50hz) frequencies for that you can process with subtle phase fx ,your bass if is in G (49hz,50hz) must be match with the root kick G (49hz,50hz) if you cut your bass to 50hz you will lose the energy of the base in this case i will cut the bass to 45hz for keep rolling...

also i suggest saturate your bass more than your kick i use for that first psp vintage warmer 2,quadrafuzz,eq,SComp it must be sound fat,heavy and your kick tight and subtle...
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Hypereal


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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 01:57
https://clyp.it/0ctqxyjm here is my 200 bpm short clip lol
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 02:23
yeh im clued up with root frequencies, its g sharp and they are both tuned, I was experimenting with phasers on the kick and bass with zero modulation,i think I may of over smeared it..

cheers man
          Devasya Savitur
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 16:56
hmm as kombo is shit with the chain I tried, does you lads sample and fade tails or just boom straight from the synth then side chain... as for eq I think im overdoing it, getting back into this game im more rusty than I thought I use to make good sounding kombos , dam and fuck..

I usually notch out around 60-80hz-110 either-200-350 800-1000 hp filter just before fundamental and lp 6k-8k on bass depending on the filter envelopes I've set up... if its open filter you get the boxy resonates that lives in 250-400 range , which I remove, I know and hear where the muddy or peaks are but stil no joy..

also as for kick its gets treatment to remove boxiness also and limit at -10 , I don't compress the kick as I feel there is no need, bass gets saturated with Saturn set on either warm or gentle, no limiter no compression, just tape or tube distortion and sometimes like the example above I tried a phaser on the bass channel zero mod ..
Iwant a silent silence between my kick and bass , I can achieve that but then my kick is too weak - I give it a boost on its fundamental but that only makes the kicks tail longer .. again ..

be nice to hear from others

I been trying out zero modulated phasors to give more oomph on a kick channel or bass kick group - it punches it through nicer when you set it right, its fiddling but worth it once you hit a sweet spot ..

I must of went overboard with that theory..

by the way im currently mixing and getting to know the HD600's headphones, monitors not an option at the moment, but I know that a nice kick bass combo can be achieved with these phones as I have before with chains that ive forgotten about when I was in this game few years back.. for me its a matter of getting a working chain back that suits the kick and bass






          Devasya Savitur
Hypereal


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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 17:15
Hey Sonica did you listen to my 200 bpm kick and bass example ?
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 17:52
to fast man = no bottom           Devasya Savitur
Hypereal


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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 18:24
Well it cant have too much bottom at that bpm because low frequencies are too long waves and it would sound to slow + mastering adds additional weight on track so be aware of that when mixing your kick and bass And also after reading you last post i think that you are overdoing and overcomplicating things in general with all that strict numbers and notching.And mixing on headphones will always bring uncertainty and unsecurity how will it sound elsewhere or in another words how much bass is enough cause probably you will be misguided.
Hypereal


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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 18:28
I would advise you to read this http://cosmosis.co.uk/tips-and-tricks/bass-secrets-mixing-bass-2
and watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRxZ_nldKKM
Cheers
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