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The Big Kick & Bass YES or NO... Thread

Sonica
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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 18:58
wel for my taste that's what I mean.. fast rolling bass = no bottom, because it cant, otherwise would be a rumbling mess, id like to point out im not a complete newb etc , cheers for the links but read cosmis ages ago - my trouble is that over process

those frequencies I pointed out are roughly where the hollow and peaky freqs lie
          Devasya Savitur
Hypereal


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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 19:15
Then dont over process it,make it simple at first.Also what maybe sounded uneeded in solo is exactly what you need in the mix.You have to listen instead of relying on numbers and notching like mad.
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 19:48
I do listen I said its roughly where they sit

anyways this is raw.... only process is tgi hp 40hz on main channel just to get rid of the shit below 35ish hz.

kick is resampled sample sidechained to bass .. a tiny bit bit crushed just to coat over

im going to process the kombo then il upload the same clip and then we can get to the bottom of this so to speak haha pardon the pun





oh and by the way does anyone else suffer from clicks and latency issues with soundcloud? wtf is all that about.

cheers
          Devasya Savitur
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 20:33




I havnt over done it, by again I have used the phaser and some nomad tools
          Devasya Savitur
Hypereal


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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 21:05
Sorry to disappoint you,dont wanna to be rude but i think both last examples you posted just wont work.They just sound out of balance together,too loud kick or too clicky bass etc.You should invest in studio monitors and your room acoustics.Headphones will drive you mad tweaking endlessly.
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 22:18
fair enuff dood , I am saving up and treatment goes for peanuts on amazonna not rude , needing to know when one stands is required here
          Devasya Savitur
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 20, 2015 23:10
There was something I did with AMT Multy-Max on my bazzism created kick drums a few years ago and it got me a wel translated bottom end - on headphones , only a matter of time and tweaking before I remember..

I love love love how the Eq work on that thing, also has input drive and limiter to finalize it..

          Devasya Savitur
moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 15:13
so finally back in my most favorite place (The Studio) and had now listens on your basslines brothers.

Sonica. as said. theres something basically wrong in your last 2 examples. they dont work. dont know whats tha main fault. but to be honest your bass sounds crap. so it wont go further than it... try start with a kick that is the burner (your exaample is a good one to start but whats that crapy noise in the offbeat? maybe change the kick as first instance... . the kick alone must have the ability to bring people to dance.

Hypereal:

your example is a nice begin. the bass is good for this music. but gotta tweak in the presence of it a bit. think that could open it in space. make it more hearable. also kick very dumb. would prefer to add some spice. bass sections seems to be OK. could have more bottom. also at this fast tempo. but doesent need to have there lots of tracks by this style.

so here my new example. i know its bit bassy in the low end. but sounds very nice in the studio oh i like that. not that nice on the headphones. so what do you think bout his one?



          
http://soundcloud.com/neonjade
Hypereal


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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 15:32
Thanks for constructive comment you are right it could have more high frequencies.Your example sounds fine
moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 15:35
heres a slightly difrent try with a bit another sidechain. wich ones the better for ya?

          
http://soundcloud.com/neonjade
Hypereal


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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 15:42
First sounds better with that slower sidechain,second sounds little abrupt but also nice rhythm.Well in the end its your choice of groove
moleqlarsuperstructure
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 15:52
since almost ten years i struggle with it. people always say like you do but i just love the harder grove. so i always try to finde that point of trade of between me and the masses thanx for reply           
http://soundcloud.com/neonjade
Sonica
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 19:37
would down sampling from 48000 to 41000hz cause any problem's I think its where the shitty artefacts appeared in the offbeats.. and yeh ears refreshed the kick was a poor choice..


your k b by the was sounds muddy and it sounds the same as the first clip just without sounds... kick no power as bass is smothering it..

hpereal is just butt sucking when he says nice groove because its a standard kbbbk groove that we always hear

fresh ears new day , simple kb groove



          Devasya Savitur
Geom3
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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 20:54
they all sound crap to me
Moleqlarsuperstructure - you have a nasty peak resonance on that note and I cant hear the kick though it to well

Hypereal - impossible to dance to and not psychedelic imo

Sonica - kick has no bottom
Hypereal


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Posted : Apr 21, 2015 21:11
I like fast something like this www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVvMMgW5t5U
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