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palex
Palex
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 10:07
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On 2006-10-19 09:46, psytones wrote:
Do you think most or all producers out there buys the original version of Cubase, Fruityloops ect?
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i did 
 
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Pt.
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 10:09
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Outolintu
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 16:35
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dumb ass "i just had to" offtopic:
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On 2006-10-18 16:45, Dogon wrote:
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On 2006-10-18 16:42, jacob wrote:
the hole picture
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it's even better when you quote more of the sentence:
"the hole picture inside and out you feel me."
jacob, i don't want to feel you around that hole pic 
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l337
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 17:40
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do you think in the beginning artists in the beginnign sold lots of cds? Do you think they sold lots of cds? considering the scene was undergound
its only with commercialism has this become a problem
and with psytrance turning into a business...
the only thing that has changed in the scene is poeple have seen the money |
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TrippyJohnny
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 17:53
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On 2006-10-19 17:40, l337 wrote:
do you think in the beginning artists in the beginnign sold lots of cds? Do you think they sold lots of cds? considering the scene was undergound
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That's easy to answer. YES overall artists sold way more in the beginning of this scene than today.
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Freeflow
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 19:00
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Sell your soul!
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 19:08
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On 2006-10-19 17:40, l337 wrote:
do you think in the beginning artists in the beginnign sold lots of cds? Do you think they sold lots of cds? considering the scene was undergound
its only with commercialism has this become a problem
and with psytrance turning into a business...
the only thing that has changed in the scene is poeple have seen the money
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There was much more money in it for more artists in the 90s. We had one 12" on Flying Rhino in 1996 that earned the three of us nearly £800 each from its first royalty cheque alone (and they paid us an advance and our recording costs too), and we were still getting cheques for it two years later.
These days you're lucky to get paid at all.
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koalakube
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 19:20
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On 2006-10-19 09:26, psytones wrote:
About earning money. Get a (real) job, or prove your worth through time and hard work within live performances, DJ set's and production of music that will eventually become timeless and classic.
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In an ideal world there wouldnt be anyone teher telling what is good and what is bad.Or what is a "real" job or not.
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TrippyJohnny
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 19:48
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Those who know what it will say to create music very well also know it's a real job and a full time job. And I am not speaking about those who have done one or two tracks over a weekend and put it on some random compilation. Try and create a whole well thought through CD and you'll know it's indeed a real job and a fulltime occupation.
And without anyone sacrifying the luxury of having a steady income so they can create the music you all like to listen to. Then you would not have any purpose coming to a forum telling artists they do not have a real job. then the music would not excist and the same goes for this forum 
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Freeflow
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 20:34
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On 2006-10-19 19:48, TrippyJohnny wrote:
Those who know what it will say to create music very well also know it's a real job and a full time job. And I am not speaking about those who have done one or two tracks over a weekend and put it on some random compilation. Try and create a whole well thought through CD and you'll know it's indeed a real job and a fulltime occupation.
And without anyone sacrifying the luxury of having a steady income so they can create the music you all like to listen to. Then you would not have any purpose coming to a forum telling artists they do not have a real job. then the music would not excist and the same goes for this forum
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agreed..
i think the point of hardwork is missed by alot of people, but i think we have the "quick copycat creators" to thank for that... fast releases and hopefully a quick buck.. lots of artists dont fullfill their knowledge before they hit the road..
when you really work to make something good and spend alot of time on it, it is a fulltime job, and if you think its all just fun and pure joy.. well then you got it wrong, to make something worth while you have to put energy into it, and not all sections of a track is created in a breeze..
there is also alot of thought,soul and fiddle...
if this justify that people should pay for it or not is a question... maybe the creator decide to give his hard work away for free.
its all good. i like that. if he wants money for the hard work.. its fine, we all want money for hardwork...
the only way is that artists goes on a strike..
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l337
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 21:39
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er...not what i meant...
i meant when trance started....the guys in goa... it wasnt for money.
also...yes colin you made more cash back then cos there was less artists and it was noval to the supporters of psy...
so then is the problem that there are too many artists?
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TrippyJohnny
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 22:02
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On 2006-10-19 21:39, l337 wrote:
er...not what i meant...
i meant when trance started....the guys in goa... it wasnt for money.
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But trance did not start in Goa. Trance was brough to Goa and played there.
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gay_trancer
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Posted : Oct 19, 2006 22:59
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wrong title for the topic...It should say ''FULL support to the artist''.......I can hardly believe that i would steal the music that someone created in 1 year in average time.....Deedrah devoted 6 years of his life to write his ambient album under the name Federico Baltimore and now i will illegally download it in a minute?....Not a chance!!! |
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Skoocha
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Posted : Oct 21, 2006 07:11
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There was much more money in it for more artists in the 90s. We had one 12" on Flying Rhino in 1996 that earned the three of us nearly £800 each from its first royalty cheque alone (and they paid us an advance and our recording costs too), and we were still getting cheques for it two years later.
These days you're lucky to get paid at all.
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and that was well deserved money
those tracks were fantastics specially considering the equipment available for producing at the time
that Unconscious Collective Ep was such an instant classic
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TrippyJohnny
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Posted : Oct 21, 2006 11:54
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On 2006-10-19 19:08, Colin OOOD wrote:
There was much more money in it for more artists in the 90s. We had one 12" on Flying Rhino in 1996 that earned the three of us nearly £800 each from its first royalty cheque alone (and they paid us an advance and our recording costs too), and we were still getting cheques for it two years later.
These days you're lucky to get paid at all.
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Exactly.
My Kaaya release with Paul Jackson on Dragonfly still today give me royalties. It gave us something like £2500 in royalties and that was also after advances paid to both of us.
There's no comparison with that times sales and today's lack of sales.
Today when you deliver a track you most of the time get from Euro 200-300 and that's it.
Online download sale is the way today.
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