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cyclone
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Posted : Oct 27, 2011 15:06:14
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Hello I am between SoundToys or Uad2 to get...
I am using macbook pro so if i get uad2 ill get the solo one,but i am worried about the future(i mean upgrade-updates support etc)...
With sound toys there is no such problem...
Any recommendations ? |
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woodster77
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Posted : Oct 27, 2011 15:47
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nothing (imo) sounds like uad and the support is excellent
soundtoys is excellent but uads got the edge
besides theres rumours bout them developing a synth for the card......moog modular 55
but its still a rumour
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 27, 2011 15:57
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erm...isn't UAD worth its weight in the EQs, compressors and the reverb(?) that is included?
Whilst Soundtoys has brilliant phaser, delay, filters and of course overdrive/distortion plugs, it has no compressors or EQs, or reverbs.
Different thigs all together me thinks.
Peace out.
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orange
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 01:53
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 04:35
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orange
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 04:47
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 11:49
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 13:47
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Having said all that, the Waves API2500 and Puigchild 670 have bags of character...not sure they can replace the Sonnox Dynamics tho...especially the Puigchild with its fixed attack/release settings, you can't have a slow enough attack and fast enough release to use on 16th trance basslines. The API 2500 is a bit more flexible, still though, scaled attack and release settings are not ideal.
Both sound really good for percussion and lead sounds tho. Add the CLA blackface to the list of compressors for drum sounds and I can only say that we have very good tools to make music, nowdays, be that Waves or UAD.
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orgytime
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 15:08
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i dont get the point in buying an external plug in processor these days, computers are fast enough...
why they dont sell their plugs witout this processor??? i would buy them! www.soundcloud.com/orgytime |
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Nectarios
Martian Arts
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 15:13
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On 2011-10-28 15:08, orgytime wrote:
i dont get the point in buying an external plug in processor these days, computers are fast enough...
why they dont sell their plugs witout this processor??? i would buy them!
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Because people can't download the DSP cards 
Peace out.
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willowisp arg
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 15:36
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Hey guys i tried both i have both in my plug in arcenal and UAD MAN wow studer,fatso,moog filter,pultec, cambridge,emt 250 and the basic la2a 1176 they are really really really killer
SPECIALLY STUDER is amazing plug give killer low end little compression is killa
they only problems with uad i have solo im always running out of dsp but well they worth it
and the store online is like digital crack al the time watching plugs making number to get new procesors heheeh
best wishes man i think if you go for uad YOULL NEVER REGRET
you always will find the guys that LOVE uad and the HATERS is just a matter of taste i think in the end native now is really cool =)
but have some extra cash to buy some extra plugs otherwize i dunno |
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 16:22
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nebula is better than both in term of analog goodness imo ,it s the only plugin that don t sound like a plugin in term of dynamic/depth but still not as good as the hardware .if you want good eq and good tape nebula is really good but same as hardware it s not flexible , you have to use it like hardware except if you have really really powerfull computer, newer uad plugs seems great, waves too...soundtoys are great for different things too, they still don t sound like hardware in many case but you have way more flexebilty with all these plugs.
native or uad quality is close, dont get fooled cause you pay for uad , it dont sound better than many native stuff, in lot of their eq they don t modeled non linearity but just eq curves for example .
a pultec eq is full of goodness with his tubes stage and transformers .. in nebula you get this love cause it use complex convolution technics to sample the hardware. using algorythms just to get a proper tube saturation that you can drive by emualtiing all the components would rape any cpu or uad card.. not possible wihtout compromise . uad card are really underpowered they can t make proper emulation of complex analog non linearity with this power |
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PoM
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 17:10
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i know plenty of artists that use uad and if it was that good they would sound otb, but nope it s itb sound .
just buying a good piece of hardware to put on your master bus can make your mix sound more otb but all this is about taste and personal preference, what sound you are after.. it s about the dynamic ,transients response, openess,depth, harmonics.. |
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Nectarios
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 18:04
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Ive downloaded all demos of the Waves plugs and compared them to my workhorse Sonnox Dynamics.
To be honest none of them deliver the definition of the Sonnox, none of them are as programmable, although the Waves plugs have tons of character that maybe suited to taste.
The API 2500 and SSL comps are well good. The Kramer has the best character yet there are no dedicated attack release knobs which renders it almost unusable for precise compression, though it sounds phat!
The CLA76 both black and blue are quite nice as well.
The worst was the fairchild. Stripped quite a bit of bottom end.
The test was performed by peaking at the same level, with the same amount of gain reduction.
Will post examples when I can be bothered to bounce a 16 bar loop down with each compressor.
None of them performed any miracles, the Sonnox still has the most depth, imo. Although I can see my self using the API, SSL and Kramer version at some point in the future when they suit a certain type of bassline.
Peace out.
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woodster77
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Posted : Oct 28, 2011 22:04
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anyone got any experience with the lexicon
does it match up to the origional
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