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Ron Lyner
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Posted : Aug 17, 2003 18:14
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i didn't read all of this thread..
but i know that there are parties that cost alot of money..
all i have to say is that these parties are bad..
and most of the ppl on these parties are not ppl that i like..
just try to find some more underground parties, with good ppl..
these parties cost much less...
last month i was on a 10 NIS party..
and 2 weeks ago ppl invited me to a 20 nis party but i couldn't come..
just don't go to every party you see.
try to find other parties that cost less..
i can promise you that these parties are the best..
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huga_generation
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Posted : Aug 17, 2003 18:36
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10 nis party???
where? who played there?
who was the orginaizer?
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Aug 17, 2003 18:39
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Many interesting things have been said here but U know....
... I just don't need big big parties, maybe 1 or 2 in the year.. all the others can be much smaller and I am happy with that..
My acquaintances here around know that I've been a techno party-goer for a while in Germany and around. I had a shock when I went to my first Psychedelic Trance Party, as I had been able to find a "spirit" that had already dissapeared for a long time in the Techno Scene...
So I am a bit anxious when I see always bigger parties in the PsyScene... We don't need them !!
I am anxious to go to parties in the future where water in the toilets would pour hot (!!!!) for that the crowd HAVE TO buy expensive water bottles...
I am anxious to go to parties where too big egos deejays or live-acts would make some bad music because they're too tired of overbooking, or would simply miss their planes... (like Alien Project scheduled at the VooV on friday in germany and at the zoOm on saturday in switzerland).. and don't come to the parties.
I am anxious to go to parties where there are neverending line-ups on several floors, and so one would pay a lot for them, without being able to see the half of the artists playing....
I am anxious to live once again what I have witnessed in the Techno scene..
Hopefully there are still real freakers (at least here in Europe) willing to build real friendly parties...
May these peoples be blessed.
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ConTact
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Posted : Aug 17, 2003 20:44
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I dont know maybe its just me but i dont like puting a price tag on my happines and my fun in life
if u want to go a party just becouse it chip!!!
then good luck for u there brotherz
but me im rather spend a little more and that making sure that ill have tons of fun and not just waiting for the cops to come along and send me home
i much rather go to a party which been aproved by the cops couse thats the first sign its gonna ba good party
if u have troubles with money think about not going to a few small parties and save your money for one big party
but just thats the way i think
besides like all things in life
THE GOOD THINGS COASTS MORE
and thats a well known fact bro's!!!
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Candy
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Posted : Aug 17, 2003 21:00
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Free parties Huga?
You know what happened when Yuli (BLT) made his hat party? He lost money, and this despite the fact that people gave money. And it was a beautiful party, with lots of people.
If you people are so idealistic, why don't you make a party according to your beliefs and see what come out of it? Maybe it could be a good lesson. I would be happy though to be wrong, and for you to show me this can be done.
I don't know about you guys, but I really care about the music I hear in parties. I want to know there will be good music. And unfortunately you usually don't get that in small parties with amateur djs who can put in their set one progressive track, and then one full on track and right after it another progressive track. These ups and downs are really annoying.
Majority is never right!
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huga_generation
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Posted : Aug 17, 2003 21:34
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well candye, in yuli's case it not what i meant u know that, and of course when u bring artists from abroad u'll loose money, if he would take 50 nis for head he would defenatly cover it all.
i still remember juha's party on the beach on indipandance day of 2001 wich was free and amazing.
about the idealism, well it wont be free but u know what we are planing...
i dont think better things costs more
candy u are right in one thing, most of the dj's in small parties are usually suck but there are exepsionals even here
u remember i told u about the no fullon gathering 2 months ago?
and it's not exactly the point , for good quality parties i have no problem to pay anytime, but for lousy production's(it's all this thread point) it's anoying.
it's not about the how much, it's about the quality wich include crowd first of all, music, location and vibe
that's my opinion
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ConTact
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Posted : Aug 17, 2003 21:48
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hmmmm naaaaaaaaaaa
if u read this thread carfully
espcielly the title ull see
that this thread is meant for the orginazers to take less money at the enterence and put more money on the party
but if u think about it its kind of immposible dont u think?
i dont know man i just cant see a picture where anyone is willing to pay money out of his own pocket for u to have fun
besides u dont have to go to this kind of parties man if u have doubts about a party oh if u know its not a proffesinal party then....
nobody is forcing u to go mate
couse in the end ull just get in the party reviews section and cry about how lousy it was
just do something else and then check that section and see if u missed somthing i can assure u that u wont miss something that big in this kind of parties and even if u will... so what? thats a price u have to pay somethimes if u want to save money for a big events or if u want to save yourself the sorrow of going to lousy party
belive me man if u miss one good party dont feel bad!!
i have reasons to belive there gonna b more parties of that kind!!!!
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huga_generation
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Posted : Aug 17, 2003 22:11
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u didnt get the point at all contact my friend  what makes the party profesional to your opinion?
the location?
the pre-sale?
the hight price?
the act from abroad?
well what do u do when u come to such party and u find out the location is a gan eruim or a @#$%%^ tenis field?
or the act from abroad came up for one hour lousy dj set???
and the rest is a local full on dj's of israel? and most of the money parties the same one?
i think that if u paid 100 nis for entrance u have the right to feel ripped off!!
for example next week a will be a beautifull production with 2 different acts from abroad wich is confirmed and pre saled and i wil be more than happy to go to that party
now u understand what i mean with the difference between great quality productions and lousy orginaizers ripping ppl pockets?
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nova
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Posted : Aug 17, 2003 22:14
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this is got out of control.
RaverGirl and ConTact... you are totaly missing the point.
as huga said it realy well
"for good quality parties i have no problem to pay anytime, but for lousy production's(it's all this thread point) it's anoying. "
thats what this thread about... those exsamples are all about great producers who doing a great job (not talking about the small parties issue)
we know those names... we know about their great party... we cant write here an exsamples of parties who ment for ripping...
conTact... you wrote:
"that this thread is meant for the orginazers to take less money at the enterence and put more money on the party "
well... im realy sorry if this is what you getting from this thread cause my mantion was what i wrote above...
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ConTact
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Posted : Aug 17, 2003 22:24
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Huge gen...
i see ur point friend but i dont think u see my point which i think is kind of the same
if u have doubts about the party
or if u think the price is too much and u think its gonna b lousy dont go
if there a doubt - there is no doubt
and usually man there lots of signs just like the movie Final Destination 1 and 2 if u saw them 
there is planty of signs u just need to watch out for them and then u will know if it worth your time/your money
personally i dont think that acts from aboard or high price or location means alot sure they mean something but the most important thing is how much the orginaizers have put thir heart into it
btw if u r looking for a good party may i recomend next month a big party which one of the orginazers is one of my best and closest friends
and i can assure that i know he put all of is heard and abillties to it
its gonna b a wonderfull party with wonderfull djs in of the most amazing place ive ever seen - its not just a non-proffesional party is a big one very proffesion sponsers and everything
anyways full detials will coem tommorow in party section and full publicity (good publicity for good people) will hit the streets tommorow
i dont like usuallly going to parties but this i think will b worth my time see u there - check the party section tommorow!!!!!
good night mate - have lots of work tommorow - got to go to sleep!!!:)
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huga_generation
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Posted : Aug 17, 2003 22:36
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hehehe
i leaned the lesson long time ago
i know wich orginaizers i can trust and who'm i cant, the problem is the name of the scene that getting ruined by those parties and spoile the fun of going to new orginaizers wich u dont know if u can trust or not...
good night mate.
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The new minimal techno haifa line
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nova
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Posted : Aug 17, 2003 22:51
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ConTact bro... i guss my thread is realy hot if you pablish this party in it 
huga!
im lucky to have you here to explain this thread! |
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nobody4
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Posted : Aug 18, 2003 08:54
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I guess that unlike clothes or shoes, in trance parties you can't really know what you buy until you already in it, so when you say 'I dont wanna go to shitty parties' - what can you do? if you dont wanna throw your money away on some lowsy party - either try to find as much details on it, or don't go there!
I don't think you are ready to buy a new, untested, unrecommended CD, from a new, unknown artist/band, now would you? or maybe a new mobile phone from a company you've never heard of?
Get to know the product you are putting your money in, that way you won't 'waste' it (or have the chance to bitch about it later).
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KakoOlalaJwal
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Posted : Aug 18, 2003 12:01
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On 2003-08-17 22:24, ConTact wrote:
- its not just a non-proffesional party is a big one very proffesion sponsers and everything
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This is exactly what I was talking about... 
Will these sponsors put some advertising in this parties ?? (flags, posters, etc)
I hope not, I reeeeeaally hope not..
My worst nightmare is to see one day a Coca-Cola (Coke) banner instead of nice paintings above the Stage of a Party..
This discussion is mainly about parties in Israel I guess, so I can't give precise examples...
..but pleaaaase just don't fall into such a trap !
I am a bit confused with Con.Tact words about professionalism..
Can Spontaneousness, Curiosity, Discovering and such Positive things survive when everything is calculated in a "professional" way ??
Building a Party is a dialogue, something magic between people who dream about sharing a Vibration and others who want to dig this Vibration.... and Simplicity, Integrity, Generosity are the Keys to open such a Dialogue.
About the unkown artist/deejay.... don't forget that EACH musician (the biggest star he can be) has lived such a period... and should never forget it !!
Have a nice day.
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ConTact
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Posted : Aug 18, 2003 17:47
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KakoOlalaJwal
bro when u know that sponsers r unvolved in a prty its a sign of professionalism man
u know it authorized by the poplice so u r sure it wont b closed
u know that alot of money has been puted in the production so u know its gonna b wild
and u know this party will b full and there is no way this will b a lousy one couse if its gonan b lousy why will anyone risk his money and invest in it!!!
thats what i see when i see sponsers!!!
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