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Shpongle - Nothing Lasts... But Nothing Is Lost
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Hippie
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Posted : Jun 2, 2005 23:27
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On 2005-06-02 21:47, Chlamydia Jones wrote:
hype album - ppl will say its good because its shpongle, no matter what.
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exactly, Shpongle cannot be bad, no matter what 
  Dream is my world. Goa is my motherland. Trance is my religion. Flying is my life. |
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maka
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Posted : Jun 3, 2005 03:15
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On 2005-06-02 23:27, Hippie wrote:
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On 2005-06-02 21:47, Chlamydia Jones wrote:
hype album - ppl will say its good because its shpongle, no matter what.
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exactly, Shpongle cannot be bad, no matter what
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Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven.
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Sputer
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Posted : Jun 3, 2005 13:14
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until track # 11 this is the most perfect thing I ever heard..
and i like the track in the end also {#18 #19}...
Schnitzl'd in the Negev must to be the most beautiful part in the album...... the piano part is nothing but AMAZING !!!!!!!!
I think ppl here a little dissapointed becuz this album sound the most "not shpongled" from all the 3 cds...
but shpongled or not.. this is beautiful & quality music.. And I wish more to come..
thats it 4 now........ 
..."Be yourself, let your conscience guide you...
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floatyhippyflower
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Posted : Jun 3, 2005 15:11
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On 2005-06-03 13:14, Sputer wrote:
I think ppl here a little dissapointed becuz this album sound the most "not shpongled" from all the 3 cds...
but shpongled or not.. this is beautiful & quality music..
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Actually Sputer, you have hit on something that occurred to me when I was reading Riton's post yesterday and subsequently gave my opinion of the 'fanboyism' thing he thinks is going on.
I agree that with him that if this wasn't a Shpongle album, the reactions would be altogether different. But my take on it is that there are some who are judging it too harshly because of ridiculously high expectations they have of Posford and/or the tendency to criticise artists who have had a modicum of commercial success (I don't have to cite examples here, they are all over the forum).
If this album had come from a new band or a less established one, you can bet those same people would be falling over backwards to say what a great tribal ambient release it is....or words to that effect....simply because there isn't anyone else making music of this kind to the high standards of production we hear on Nothing Lasts.
Popular artists like Shpongle are damned if they stick to formula but also fucked if they attempt to move on from previous albums in the eyes of some people. I say listen again with an open mind and take it for what it is, not what you think it should be.
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Posted : Jun 3, 2005 15:36
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"Talking about music" is like "dancing about architecture". |
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floatyhippyflower
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Posted : Jun 3, 2005 15:55
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On 2005-06-03 15:36, Ott^ wrote:
"Talking about music" is like "dancing about architecture".
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It's a tricky one for sure. But then what are we all doing here if not to talk about music???
I say go forth and whitter pointlessly boys and girls 3;~
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rippa
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Posted : Jun 3, 2005 17:12
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W-O-W...
That's all i have to say , just an amazing cd.
shpongle at is best , so much emotions , great vocals , happy & dark moments , twisted moments absoulte stormer.
i really liked the brazilian part , 10 minutes of pure big celebration of all kinds of music.
just brilliant , best freestyle/ambient cd ive heard in a while...
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russ
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Posted : Jun 4, 2005 21:18
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This album is totally irritating.
I don't say that because I'm disappointed or because I had high expectations.
It's irritating because:
--it irritates my ears.
--it irritates my mind.
--and most importantly, it irritates my nerves.
I think the whole thing is one big, chaotic mess of ideas and sounds thrown into the FX blender and spit out the other side. After a few minutes, it really gets on my tits. After 60 minutes I want to smash it.
To me this album is totally empty of feeling or emotion--how many times can you listen to the brightest lad in the class show off before you want to pop him? I've reached that point with this one.
I got not one moment of pleasure out of the whole thing. I can't imagine even listening to it again.
Thanks for the memories, Mr. Posford! You provided me with a few blinders over the years, and I'll always be grateful for those, but this ain't one of them.
Now I have to go listen to some downbeat to clear all that sonic muck out of my head... |
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Hippie
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Posted : Jun 5, 2005 07:17
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i don't understand why you always blame Simon if you don't like what you hear... Shpongle is/are Simon and Raj
Dream is my world. Goa is my motherland. Trance is my religion. Flying is my life. |
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Hippie
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Posted : Jun 5, 2005 08:46
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btw, 06 - Nothing Lasts is a very tribal sounding track... 
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Jun 5, 2005 21:06
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On 2005-06-03 13:14, Sputer wrote:
until track # 11 this is the most perfect thing I ever heard..
and i like the track in the end also {#18 #19}...
Schnitzl'd in the Negev must to be the most beautiful part in the album...... the piano part is nothing but AMAZING !!!!!!!!
I think ppl here a little dissapointed becuz this album sound the most "not shpongled" from all the 3 cds...
but shpongled or not.. this is beautiful & quality music.. And I wish more to come..
thats it 4 now........
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I don't understand how people can say that this album is not psychedelic; i think it's very psychedelic (and very shpongolish IMHO).
It's actually funny that Sputer thinks that the first half of the album is the best I favor the second part of album (from> when shall I be free?), of course I think that both parts are wonderful, but it just goes to show that taste differs.
"Love is a way of life"
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Sputer
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Posted : Jun 5, 2005 22:02
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sure its psychedelic
again.. this is very well done album..
now we have to wait to the new Younger album heheh..
..."Be yourself, let your conscience guide you...
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brujo6
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Posted : Jun 5, 2005 22:12
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On 2005-06-04 21:18, russ wrote:
This album is totally irritating.
I don't say that because I'm disappointed or because I had high expectations.
It's irritating because:
--it irritates my ears.
--it irritates my mind.
--and most importantly, it irritates my nerves.
I think the whole thing is one big, chaotic mess of ideas and sounds thrown into the FX blender and spit out the other side. After a few minutes, it really gets on my tits. After 60 minutes I want to smash it.
To me this album is totally empty of feeling or emotion--how many times can you listen to the brightest lad in the class show off before you want to pop him? I've reached that point with this one.
I got not one moment of pleasure out of the whole thing. I can't imagine even listening to it again.
Thanks for the memories, Mr. Posford! You provided me with a few blinders over the years, and I'll always be grateful for those, but this ain't one of them.
Now I have to go listen to some downbeat to clear all that sonic muck out of my head...
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couldn't have said it better myself!
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Kaz
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Posted : Jun 5, 2005 22:27
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Replacing the bizzare LFOs of the first album , we get some well thought out percussion solos (example: ..but Nothing Is Lost has nearly the exact same rhythm as the LFO solo from Divine Moments of Truth). Instead of the 'all over the place' feeling of the second album, the Latin influences overpower the rest of the world here. Instead of the seemingly chaotic progression in each track or in the structure of the album, here we get a clean, well thought out structure here. The technical wizardry that has put Shpongle on the map is again taken to a higher level than before, and the production doesn't fall into the over-compressed hyper-clear production trap that so many others do.
There are faults in the album - both the bass guitar in the Botanical Dimensions (and those same samples are used later on as well), the electric guitar in The Nebbish Route are two examples of elements that sound totally unatural to my ear in natural sounding tracks, something that really ruined both the beginning and the ending of the album for me... but much worse than this, the album sounds TOO RIGHT. I mean, music in this way is just like people - there's no real love with perfection, admiration, yes, but love... no. Nothing lasts, but something is lost in the way here. It's not because the music is bad, or because any specific thing is done wrong... hey, Pink Floyd only got more proffesional with each album but lost something special in the process - Syd Barrett's torrents of psychedelia outshining all the downsides of a new band, replaced by Roger Waters' sense of drama and nearly visual theatrics in every bit of music, and finally David Gilmour's leadership brought the cleanest, most finely cut music out of the band, doing everything in just the right way - but the magic was lost somewhere in the way.
Now. Let's be honest. This album still kicks ass. It's bloody great music, an enjoyable listen to nearly anyone who keeps an open mind and just flows with the music, and the whole Connoisseur Of Hallucination and onward (excluding the horrid electrical guitars) seems like a strong contender for my favorite musical sequence of the year (any genre) - this is what Shpongle is all about in my book. It just feels that Simon Posford and Raja Ram didn't expect to break new grounds in anything other than the careful structuring of this album when making it... there's not that sense of discovery of the first album nor the sense of a kid in a toystore of music from around the world of the second.
Nothing lasts, but the excitement, ohh, it gets lost. Growing old together does that, and most people have been with Shpongle for a long, long time now.
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*Karma Cola*
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Posted : Jun 6, 2005 18:46
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This cd incroporates everything..
from that Salsa taste at the beginning .. than teh kooky 'younger brother' type voices.. a whole tribal slice..a toke of jazz and my personal favourite.. when it breaks down for 'When i am free" FCUK!!!!!!
brilliant!! Neednt say anything more. !!!
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