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Shpongle - Nothing Lasts... But Nothing Is Lost
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psyfactor
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Posted : Jun 1, 2005 00:20
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On 2005-05-31 18:46, traveller wrote:
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On 2005-05-31 11:58, psyfactor wrote:
little sadness arounds me.....
i expected more psychedelic music from Simon like as in the previous two albums
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sorry have you actually listened to it? it's über psychedelic to say the least..
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yes ive heard it full leight album
and if make a difference of third album with last two albums, it is easy, boring, fo sure time of the time its great sounds which i really liked, interesting, but very few(less) such moments ,about 3 tracks of 20,
first shpongle album there were all tracks are great! interesting and psychedelic...
i liked all of them, and the second album the same)
but as i imagine - IMHO - this album made by "fast-hand"
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Voice of All
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Posted : Jun 1, 2005 00:40
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On 2005-05-31 21:11, VertigOA wrote:
While it's a good album, it is by far the worst of the 3 Shpongle albums. If I were to compare this to some other chillout/freestyle album I would say it is good. But, it does not hold up to Shpongle standards, and therefor I can't say it's a good "shpongle" album.
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I think it is bit strange to say so. Who can know more about what is Shpongle than Shpongle themselves. And if they have released it under this name so they probably think that it is Shpongle too. Anyway we have no projects to compare it with... So we need to say now that Shpongle is not Shpongle that we knew from 2 first discs but also includes this one 
It always will be a most funny thing about Shpongle.
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The Green Channel
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Posted : Jun 1, 2005 15:37
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I really don't understand how people can say that this album is not psychedelic or by far the worst of three albums. This album is amazing, very, very psychedelic. It's the only piece of music that I have been listening to since I received it. I have heard the album at least 25 times by now and it's still getting better. I have a hard time telling which one of the Shpongle albums is the greatest, it’s like when my parents ask me which one of them is my favorite and I answer I love you evenly  . "Love is a way of life"
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VertigOA
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Posted : Jun 1, 2005 18:10
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On 2005-06-01 15:37, The Green Channel wrote:
I really don't understand how people can say that this album is not psychedelic or by far the worst of three albums. This album is amazing, very, very psychedelic. It's the only piece of music that I have been listening to since I received it. I have heard the album at least 25 times by now and it's still getting better. I have a hard time telling which one of the Shpongle albums is the greatest, it’s like when my parents ask me which one of them is my favorite and I answer I love you evenly .
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Ok maybe my choice of words was poor.
It is my least favorite of the three Shpongle albums. And yet it's still very good musically but I just don't like it as much as the others.
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Acidhive
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Posted : Jun 1, 2005 18:18
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All the Twisted junkies are opposing against people that don't seem to like this album. I say: let them. Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I've never been a big fan of Shpongle chillout (Aes Dana and Carbon Based Lifeforms are more my thing) and this album is for sure not as good as the first Shpongle album, but to me it's on par with the second one. All in all, I like it a little, but not lots. And it certainly is not world shattering or anything. At least not in my ears.
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traveller
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Posted : Jun 1, 2005 18:59
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On 2005-05-31 21:11, VertigOA wrote:
I've listened to this album a bunch of times and I am bored with it. Unlike the other Shponlge albums that get better with more listens, this just got borning.
While it's a good album, it is by far the worst of the 3 Shpongle albums. If I were to compare this to some other chillout/freestyle album I would say it is good. But, it does not hold up to Shpongle standards, and therefor I can't say it's a good "shpongle" album.
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Funny how you've had it for a few days now and already you say it got boring..
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Joti.
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Posted : Jun 1, 2005 19:00
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please people stop whining about the psychedelic factor of the new album.... that's all subjective,
be constructive and make this review section worth checking for other visitors and people who are interested in the new shpongle.
the 3rd shpongle is pure world music in a tasty twisted salsa... crossing dangerous bounderies beyond shpongolia.
must be one of my all time favourite cd's, next to 'orbital - in sides' and 'fsol - life forms' ...
because it feels magic
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brujo6
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Posted : Jun 1, 2005 19:19
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On 2005-05-31 21:11, VertigOA wrote:
I've listened to this album a bunch of times and I am bored with it. Unlike the other Shponlge albums that get better with more listens, this just got borning.
While it's a good album, it is by far the worst of the 3 Shpongle albums.
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I also found it boring. It is mostely the same as the previous two albums, but less musicality. No new ideas, I liked maybe 3 out of the 20 tracks.
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VertigOA
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Posted : Jun 1, 2005 19:43
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On 2005-05-31 21:11, VertigOA wrote:
I've listened to this album a bunch of times and I am bored with it. Unlike the other Shponlge albums that get better with more listens, this just got borning.
While it's a good album, it is by far the worst of the 3 Shpongle albums. If I were to compare this to some other chillout/freestyle album I would say it is good. But, it does not hold up to Shpongle standards, and therefor I can't say it's a good "shpongle" album.
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Funny how you've had it for a few days now and already you say it got boring..
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Care to elaborate?
I don't know why it's funny,, usually something good will get better after a few days, while I wouldnt call it completely boring, I do not find myself interested in listening to it like I did the last two.
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intrees
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Posted : Jun 1, 2005 20:14
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O.K, O.k people - here's what I think...
I am a total Twisted records fanatic too, I love Shpongle of course and have been waiting and waiting for this to arrive.. and well, I'm pretty happy so far. I've only had time to listen to it maybe three times since yesterday, and I feel that yes, it is still psychedelic ( sorry Joti). It seems a continuation of the second album, I don't really see the connection to the first - it was so much more chilled and ambient somehow... Simon shows us yet again how to twist the last drop out of every sound beaming out of the monitors, he has sculpted another beast of a cd, I'm not too keen on some of the elvish/cartoon character vocal effects, but I love the percussion and use of cello etc... hmmmm - definately more like the second album, there sure ain't no Monster Hit or Shpongeleyes....
Yes, it's really not quite chilling music is it, I used to love playing R U Shpongled? with friends lying on the floor spinning out of our minds on mushrooms... te he.. I suppose this is more dance floor orientated (perhaps more fun...)
I'm rambling now, better listen to some more Nothing Lasts... I think it will grow and grow in my ears
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Hippie
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Posted : Jun 1, 2005 20:23
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The official release date is June 6th.
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on my birthday they could give me a free copy 
a little sadness from this side too... this album misses some good lyrics... also some total and utter cosmic tunes you want to last forever, like in "Around the World in a Tea Daze", i miss Abigail's beautiful opera voice... Shpongle 3 is not so psychedelic like his brothers [Are you Shpongled and Tales - my favourite one] no matter it's a bit different, still i think it is a great album
and i love it 
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Dovla
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Posted : Jun 1, 2005 23:58
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I am really surprised to read all these negative comments, I mean I knew I'd read some of em but I'm still pretty shocked...
For one thing I don't understand the comparison of this album to the previous two. They are all entirely different. The third and in my opinion the best Shpongle album has influences from almost all musical genres and is without a doubt the most psychedelic of all 3 albums...this is a fact my friends...I fail to understand how any of you believe that the previous ones have more psychedelic sounds than this one. This album is by far the most complex; just listen to it with headphones on. there are so many sound effects, melodies, patterns, bleeps, drums etc etc and they all blend in perfectly with each other creating such a harmony of sounds that you won't hear again for a looong time.
Your problem is that you were expecting the continuation of something you heard before instead of not expecting anything. What I also fail to understand is the high standards you set for this release while so many crappy others get off without a single bad comment. it’s not like everyone is bashing the latest progressive house release or another killaaah full on release...but when it comes to something like this everyone is just itching to find something in it that doesn't quite fit their taste so they can say that they are so "alternative" and "different" that they listen to something that isn't favored by so many people 
I downloaded this baby like a week ago and it's been playing ever since, I must have heard it like 50 times and I'm still not tired of it. And this is because there are so many sounds in that you just can't catch them all the first 10 times you hear it. This is why I can’t accept anyone’s opinion of this album until they hear it at least a couple of times. This is not background music, it's not something you listen to while doing something else...it requires more concentration than any other release on this scene in the past 4-5 years.
I know that it seems like I'm exaggerating when I say all of this but I seem to remember that the second shpongle album also managed to brake a few bows when it came out because people were comparing it to the first one. Simon has reached such a high level of music production where there is so little room for improvement and evolution and yet he keeps fascinating me with every release. Just try and compare his work to anyone else’s on this scene and you will see the difference...he's miles and miles away and he can still pull it off! This album drains influences from folk (I prefer this title to the more "trendy" world music one), jazz, metal, DnB & breakbeat, trance, IDM (now more than ever), chill out & dub, reggae and even classical music with instruments like the piano and my personal favorite, the xylophone And with all of this there are still loads and loads of old familiar shpongle sounds and their trademark flute
Reviewing this album track by track somehow seems pointless to me, it’s simply something that needs to be looked at like a whole. A whole that is 10 times greater than the sum of its parts. The only bad point about it for me is the fact that it will be very hard to play it in any set because there are 20 tracks which are all pretty much connected. But on the other hand it’s understandable why Simon made it this way. Now instead of having favorites I always listen to this album from start to finish…I don’t even know the names of most of the tracks yet since I just don’t care about them…this is one big musical journey which is just perfect. There are so much more words that need to be said about this album but words don’t do this album justice. I still need to fully understand this musical masterpiece before trying to analyze it piece by piece… Thank you Simon and Raja, I just don’t know what I’d do without your music
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Dibu-Tonic
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We're comparing because the first 2 albums were full of emotions, melodic sounds, mystical twisted effects. But now it's over, we expected so much to get a disc to listen it without taking drugs and still getting the sensation of real peace, bla bla...
I said grotesc because it seems like you were on a market full of people hearing cheap samba or I don't know.
I respect everyone's opinion and I hope you can respect mine, cause some of you started to offend.
someone also said that we have to put an objetive opinion?... Taking about artistic things it's impossible to get an objective opinion cause it's all about feelings, sensations, bla bla.
So much sounds on a track get me dizzy, it's not armonic, doesn't fit on tracks perfectly.
The thing is that I believe that all of you are Shpongle fans (as I used to be till now) and you can't deal with the truth. It's over, in my opinion Simon Posford just finished with his career as an artist. It happens all the time, but i think that he made the worst good-bye album. It's not special and I felt sad cause he was (with other artists) the reason why I kept listening to PSychedelic trance and ambient so much time, cause he make me get in altered states of consciousness withouth taking drugs.... But anyway my conclusion is that you've better keep with the first two albums and keep a good image of Simon Posford as an artist.
I know that there will be 100 posts saying that I'm a jackass and that I don't know anything about psychedic/ambient but that's what I felt when I hear the disc. and I know that you felt the same, but you don't want to admit it. Cause it's called reality, this album has nothing of the first two, no emotions, no armony, no melodic sounds, no nothing
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Dovla
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Posted : Jun 2, 2005 01:59
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On 2005-06-02 00:50, Dibu-Tonic wrote:
We're comparing because the first 2 albums were full of emotions, melodic sounds, mystical twisted effects. But now it's over, we expected so much to get a disc to listen it without taking drugs and still getting the sensation of real peace, bla bla... |
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look this is your oppinion and you're entitled to it...I just don't agree with you and I think you are comparing it with the others when you really shouldn't
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yes I can respect your opinion but the fact remains that I believe you need to give this album a couple of more chances before you dismiss it..
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well yes music is a pretty subjective topic but there are always some things that are objective, like sound quality for example...also it's pretty objective to analyze which sounds blend together and which don't
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I know that there will be 100 posts saying that I'm a jackass and that I don't know anything about psychedic/ambient but that's what I felt when I hear the disc. and I know that you felt the same, but you don't want to admit it. Cause it's called reality, this album has nothing of the first two, no emotions, no armony, no melodic sounds, no nothing
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well I wouldn't call anyone who has his own opinion a jackass, but I do believe you didn't give this album a chance...the thing is that I would never say I love something so much if I didn't really mean it...like I said, I've been playing this album for days now and I can't get tired of it...simon will continue to make music and I am sure that his musical career isn't over yet, right now there is the metal sharon album to look forward to and also the second younger brother album as well 
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