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Shocking newsflash from a few years ago!
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Kaz
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 00:03
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I've been going through my CD collection lately, a collection starting in 1990. 1993 was my first trance CD at home, before that I had just tapes. Most of my CDs have vanished into thin air, probably decorating many other people's collections all around Israel (and a few in Australia too). I listened to my music in chronological order... the music just gets better and better in every parameter, more psychedelic, better production, more creative structures, more flowing music. Every year the music sounds better to my ears. Every year, I see the CDs with much more effort in their production, tracks with a more complete musical finish to them. By the time I reached this year's CDs, I felt something was missing.
I couldn't put my finger on it at first. Then I took one of my favorite CDs from a few years back (VA - Phosphorescent by TIP Records), played the tracks. Hallucinogen, Psychopod, The Antidote, Doof, X-Dream, The Infinity Project and more. Then I put back the CD I was listening to from this year - Into the Parkness. I noticed worlds of difference in the music.
The production was much clearer in the newer CD, the structure flawless, every element in the music pronounced. Everything was more proffesional. The grooves were catching me while listening...
But the music wasn't challenging my brain the way it had in previous years. This music was smooth, simple, easy, danceable... But all that was left of the psychedelia was no more than a shadow of it's former self. And I didn't notice it listening to the stuff in chronological order at all, it just gave me a feeling that something was missing.
And you know what? I should have seen it ages ago. Psytrance has moved so gradually, becoming more proffesional and more danceable so slowly no one noticed. I hear people say "this music is to psychedelic for me", or "it sounds hard on my ear, put on something with power instead". Lots of people listen to psytrance, lots produce it. Labels choose the music according to the sound they want, not only due to the quality of the music. Parties with crowd selection. DJs become trend setters. Strong advertisement. The music is suddenly defined by words like progressive, minimal, full-on, groovy...
The day I thought would never come has. It's official now, psytrance isn't underground anymore. And I'm surprised only by one thing - that I didn't even notice it.
All that's left to do, like the old raver stereotype is to bitch and moan and remember the good times. Will albums like Green Nuns of the Revolution - Rock Bitch Mafia stand a chance to be released today? Not on TIP World - a label that used to pride itself in breaking barriers in psychedelia and changing the sound of the entire scene with each new compilation. Definately not by the progressive labels. And not even the full-on labels, not when Astrix and GMS can sell so much better.
I miss the underground. I miss psychedelia - which doesn't have a place anywhere but in the underground unless the musician is truely brilliant. I miss a lot of things that probably won't come back anytime soon.
I'll just go back to my small corner, waiting for a few rare acts that still dare to do something unique to release something new, and a rare concept album by a label that tries something unque once in a year or two. I'm grasping for the last few bubbles of air to keep me alive here, I don't know about you guys, but psychedelia and the underground vibe are things I just can't live without... Not after 10 years of living them.
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 00:33
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well kaz, i can't agree with you because i'm seriously into the psy scene only in the last year or two.
but imo trance is getting better, i can't really connect to the old goa and psychedelic tracks (kox box, doof and most hallucinogen tracks) and lately i'm getting what i'm looking for in music and i'm enjoying it very much.
and i DO consider stuff released by labels like hadshot, DS, plastic park mind chalenging. i can't enjoy them without concentrating and analizing the beat 
imo there's nothing wrong with defining styles of trance, this thing just helps you define your style and what you like. instead of saying "i like stuff like GMS" you say "i like fullon" - good thing
may this year never end, gilad 
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DETOX
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 00:41
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kaz kaz kaz
The times are changing and with them the music and the artists,everything evolves,sometimes into better directions and sometimes into not so good directions.
Before 5 years there were 10 good artists and the rest of them were average.
Now you have 100 good artists with high quality music.
You dont have Astral or Transwave anymore but you have Shpongle and Synthetic and many others.
People change,styles change
Yes psy trance aint underground anymore but it has very high standarts and only the good artists survive just like the good old times that you had the chance to live.
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Yuli
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 00:58
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but he has a point Detox, he has a point..
Actually kaz me thinks u might have knocked the nail on it's head this time.. or was it into your head?  in any case, past is past and we need to enjoy today and try to embrace tomorrow hehehe ( that never happens btw.. )
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DETOX
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 01:11
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Yuli offcourse he has a point but we cant change the way things evolve.
You know that better than i do.
Old times will always be good times in our brain for all situations.
You remind me my Mom when she says that in the old days people used to be happier even though the situtations were much more difficult than
today's.Its called nostalgia and its when we feel sad about the good old days that are long lost now
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Luiz Paulo
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 01:31
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Can I say something here?
check two messages above. That one guy, yes, he brings psychedelia to the world every single time he puts a track out there into the light.
asaf mate. hear my advice: put 'God is Love' on, and check the groove, check the melodies, check the surprises (I still hear them, five months later). that's what this is all about imo.
and btw, put some Saiko-Pod on too, that might do the trick.
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Zombi
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 01:46
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may be u toooo long stuck with same hallucinogen and saiko pod ?? with pleiadians and electric universe ?? dont think i say half bad word about them, just may be its a time see the future ?? taste the tommorow ?? change the parametres and just be happy again ??
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Sound Surgeon
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 02:00
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move on mate, life continues forward and there is no way stopping them
just be happy with the music that exists today, or listen to the things from :"Hallucinogen, Psychopod, The Antidote, Doof, X-Dream, The Infinity Project ".....
enjoy as long as you can
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Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 02:15
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to each his own.
i think Kaz is right (after having read his lengthy self-debate). Psytrance is in today's mainstream of trance music, just as Goa once had it's place on that pedastle. for me, the underground is still kicking, with hundreds of new artists exploring, re-finding, refining and re-defining psychedelics.
I think gradually trance will go through the same phase rock music did over the decades - it started out as underground, savage, even cultish music (beatles, Elvis), and than, over the turn of the decades, you saw more and more rock artists, many of them on the edge of fringe, but still making music for the masses.
I think trance is in one of those stages right now. it's still underground in many ways, but the sieve, the filter through which this music has been viewed by the general public, has slowly been eroded. more and more artists today are faced with the option of writing catchy hits (not just in trance) or saying their artistic truth and risk being Anonymous.
Yuli has made a valid point as well. the past can allways be re-created (as we see today in rock and dance music, everything is so retro), but it's the present time in which we live, and the we must look forward towards the future, and since none of us are prophets, i guess all we can do is wait and see. your past is who you are. don't make it your burden. carpe diem. embrace the future.
"We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb
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yossi
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 02:20
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asaf mate... i had the same thing like a year ago or so.
and then came the "back to the basics" era, listening mostly to the old cd and 12".
and in one nice morning it past away... just like that.
hope it`ll happen to u soon, coz looking back at that time now... it wasnt good for me.
its like i was holding on a realy thin string, i just couldnt find my new joy in todays music...
kinnda hopeless, coz i knew that these times wont come back ever.
and i realy cant point on one thing/track/cd that made it go away. it just happend.
i realy hope u`ll find your new way in todays electronica.
boom
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Kitnam
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 02:35
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i can understand that kaz is missing the thing called PSYCHEDELIC this year... maybe the artists are looking for a new design of it, because they are getting bored of it. we have a lot of experiments last time and i think something new PSY will awaken soon... isnt it a thrilling time?
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Sound Surgeon
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 02:37
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a birth of something new is always exciting....
new artists are coming soon, new ones were introduced that year...
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Chaka Laka
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 02:41
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ok .... 12 years is a lot ... i listen to trance from 1998 , but everyday listening started just 2 years ago ... but lately i feel something quite similar to what u just described ... and my biggest question - is it music or is it me ? and actually , i'd answer without thinking twice - it's ME ... I just full of this music , it cant surprise me anymore (like it did back then , and once again , i'm talking about much smaller period of time) ... but when i listen to Juno reactor , twisted , california sunshine - damn , it really sounds different to me , different then music that is produced lately .. and i wasn't raised on this music like u were which confuses me even more ... this question is a real delema to me ... one conclusion that i did reach - as well as u get older - u experiance things differently , it will never be like it used to be once ... and sometimes its more then sad , but it's the way things work in our little world .... i think that u had your luck to discover this change after long 12 years ...
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Kitnam
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 02:48
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i have to add something.
the artists are always contingent on their equitment and the technical evolution.
remember the day, some detroid-gangsters had stolen a rock-drummer-companion makin basslines (for this it was designed for). it was called tb303.
now we are within a birth of digital-revolution with possibilities no analog-studio cant give.
the next years will be years of very amazing sound design (like not from this planet)
dont be afraid...their MUST be some new ASSKICKING tunes next years. there a a lot of young artists till now not so experienced at producing but with completly new ideas in our scene. their will happen a lot.
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Chaka Laka
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 03:00
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it's not that i don't have my moments listening to some new albums ... saying "it can't surprise me" - well , it's not that i lost my love in trance , but probably there are already other things that make me excited .. and this connects to your present perception witch aparantly is influenced by your present age .... try to answer to yourself listening to those old records - what actually excites u now , the music or the memories of your excitement when u listened to this record x years ago ? and sorry for all this phylosophy at this late hour of the night ....
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