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Apocalypse Now
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 04:32
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Yes I agree with you Chaka Laka, I think a big part of why we consider certain tracks to be "classics" are the memories of how much fun we had back then when we heard them.
But you wouldn't of had that much fun if they weren't that good.
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Yuli
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 10:45
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About the special feeling many ppl miss.
This feeling is sort of magic that everyone of us want to be back to.. but except of goosebumps none would b able to describe what it does or what it consists from.. kinda tricky little thing. As a producer I live for these moments and create my music while I search for them all the time. It's not easy to create them, not in every track for sure and I think that behind these magic moments there is more then 1 bit of phillosophy, that without understanding it very hard to get how / when and where they appear.
In the past there were ( in percentage ) much more outfits that delivered these moments than today... I would advise everyone that in search of magic moments to go especially to X-Dreams ' We Created Our Own Happiness ' - actually the name itself creates the feeling.. This one has it in ALL of it's tracks ( except the last one maybe ) which is definitely a rare case. The sound quality as you can see is not as important - u can see much stronger sound today but without the spark that X-men have 
The reason that our scene became cold from lack of emotion is that the demand is either for pure mathemathics, or for pure full on without compromise.. EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT HE NEEDS... which is the mother of all fuckups because the contrary is right and no one seems to understand that.. When you KNOW what u need, u forget how to enjoy the unexpectable cuz u see the surprise as something wrong, something that doesn't go with the flow..
Think about it and try to forget the ' I've been there, done that, bought Luiz's T-Shirt and so on... ' because only this way you can recreate your own happiness every time - and not only in music. In everything.
PS the KoxBox dudes do it every single time as SaikoPod and as KoxBox so check them out
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Zombi
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 11:05
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exactly.
ppl while a party busy on recognize a trax and give marks to dj's. and not enjoy the moment and just dance.
imo its only coze most of the ravers today have to be bar sitters or school learners.
there is no crazy ppl that want to be exploded and their mind open enough to be done like that.
FREE YOUR FUNKY CHICKENS !!
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Kaz
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 15:17
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Yuli here is the closest one to my point... That unexplainable feeling that you get when something triggers you to just be awed with the music, to think "this is fucking AMAZING"... It's not just nostalgy here, it's the fact that people didn't only escape definitions - they looked for every single way they could smash them to bits.
Escaping definition is the only way you can go beyond them. That's what psychedelia is about - the track being more than just "groovy" or "powerful" or whatever.
And no, I don't think all of the music out today is worse than the old music. Yes, I know all of Saiko Pod's tracks by heart. Same with Electric Universe's Unify, all of Shiva Chandra/Auricular music, the entire Twisted mafia, ManMadeMan... These guys show you can be extremely psychedelic and every bit as proffesional, energetic and moving as the other acts, but in the end of the day, these are the guys that make tracks you can't forget. Acts that don't recycle structures, don't work with a ready-made formula or stick to certain sounds. The ones that give you that surprise that makes you stop in your tracks, and a few seconds later just think "YEAH!!".
My problem is that they're a lot rarer. And the fact that they become less and less appreciated with time is a sign of how the goa spirit is all but dead, and how much the music is becoming streamlined by ideas and words.
It makes me frustrated, it makes me sad, and most of all, I just can't stand the fact that when people ask what psychedelic music is all about, people say Bitmonx. Or GMS. Whatever. Psytrance should be psychedelic, or else it shouldn't be called PSYtrance. It should be underground, because mainstream styles of music are known for not surprising you. There are a lot of things that this scene has lost so gradually that no one even noticed, and now that I did, I know exactly what to look for.
Just like Yuli said - those moments that you get goosebumps from the music. That's what I miss so much.
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TiMMY
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 16:10
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ALot has been said here.
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On 2002-11-12 01:31, Luiz Paulo wrote:
asaf mate. hear my advice: put 'God is Love' on, and check the groove, check the melodies, check the surprises (I still hear them, five months later). that's what this is all about imo.
and btw, put some Saiko-Pod on too, that might do the trick.
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Exactly.
Psychedelic trance had only began it's journey towards perfection.
This year was one of the most interesting years and "productive" years in psytrance. But it's true, many artists create psytrance which is not psychedelic at all. so what?
The real psytrance artists will keep producing music and I'm sure we'll have even better parties in the future.
Nitzhonot was called Psytrance too back then and as far as I remember it was very popular, selling alot of CDs (in Israel).
Just listen to BLT,Saiko Pod,Vibrasphere,Texas Faggott,Reefer Decree, etc.
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Kaz
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 16:24
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Nitzhonot was never called psytrance. It was called that in the moth before the terms "ptzatzot" and "nitzhonot" were invented, and only then because of a lack of a name.
And I listen to a lot of new music, don't treat me like I don't know what I'm talking about.
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TiMMY
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 16:39
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On 2002-11-12 16:24, kaz wrote:
don't treat me like I don't know what I'm talking about.
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Come on, you know I'm not that kind of guy 
The good old days are over, all I was trying to say was that nowdays we probably don't remember the "bad" releases of the past.
Nitzhonot can be psytrance, it depends on who you are asking. Same thing with GMS,Alien Project,etc.
You don't have to call it Psytrance, you know
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Zombi
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 17:32
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kaz - ias it real that only now u feel it ??
realy man, im about two years as i got that.
but look, fist of all no more Goa as we understand it, so why there will be spirit of Goa ??
alot/most of todays artists never were at Goa and that a reason they dont attached by it and not influenced by it. its logical and clear.
there is another sources for music production than Goa nowdays, so..
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Mr. uzi :)
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 17:45
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what you say zombi, about us printing a sticker + t-shirt's with the title:
I NEVER BEEN @ 604
you think it will catch ?
maybe some day it will show on cd's instead of long blah blah why this release contain no psy in it.
think of it
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NO PSY FOR YOU! today... (try tommorow..)
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blue elf
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 17:51
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alot/most of todays artists never were at Goa and that a reason they dont attached by it and not influenced by it. its logical and clear.
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i don't agree with this.
astral projection, for ex. were at goa first time only few years after they were doing this kind of music.
i (and a lot of other people) never been to goa but like goa trance.
it's like i'll say people who were never been to chicago can't be influenced by house.
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 18:13
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well, i guess you've all got a point.
me, i'm only into goa since 1 or maybe 2 years, which is logical knowing that i'm getting 16 in Februari  . but i really can't see where all the fuzz is about. did i really miss so much??  i don't believe this. i can be wrong, but i think it's important to evolve togheter with the music and if you do, you will still be able to have as much fun as you used to have...
as for me, all goaparties i've done, back here in Belgium, were great... and yes, mostly pretty underground, too... but it's not because psytrance is getting less underground you can't give any underground parties anymore, or is it?
maybe if you take it all a little less seriously you'll have more fun again?
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Mr. uzi :)
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 18:27
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nicely sayed..
welcome here Fimoo, enjoy your stay
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Kaz
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 18:28
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Well, I noticed the goa wave had died a long time ago. I moved to progressive music around a year and a half ago... But only now I'm noticing that the psychedelia is in bad shape now.
Music has started becoming less and less psychedelic a while ago, but only now I noticed that the situation is critical - at least for me.
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Zombi
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 18:34
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and u always can listen to "free your funky chickens" cd or "psychovider" and get all back..
btw - soon debut album of chris organic.
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Basilisk
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Posted : Nov 12, 2002 18:59
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Well I just happen to be listening to the Nuns right now - rock bitch!! and I can say there are few releases in this league, especially now... this is fun bouncing insane amazing crazy music!!! come to think of it, most of the new tracks I download go straight to the trash bin. There are only a few artists still experimenting with interesting angles of attack... Prometheus comes to mind first - Benji has been creating all sorts of distinctively different music for a while now. It very much reminds me of the Platipus sound for some reason I cannot quite place - but speaking of that, my most recent vinyl purchase was Platipus Volume 2. I recommend that you all check that out!
Music is eternal... why spend the present woefully miserable about something missing? The only element not present is your classic albums in your music playing device - the choice is up to you! Like politics, religion, philosophy... music inspires conversation endlessly. Why is that? There's something about the Goa sound that is indescribable; that can't be boiled down to its component 1's and 0's... "it's absolutely maaa-a-a-agik" to quote a good old Posford tune
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