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Saving this world!

furthur
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 19:11
Another thing wezzy, do not save the world, save yourself, and then those closest to yourself. The rest of the world will be saved when it is ready to be saved.           Load Universe into Cannon. Aim at Brain. Fire.

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sorceress
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 19:20


all this is really neat stuff.

do you all actually plan to go down and help the people.

coz the sight is crazy...

the whole place smells morbid.

Tamil Nadu was really bad.

but then what the hell

enjoy the party.

then we shall talk about bein plastic           Dont thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously use your intelligence
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Ott^
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 19:32
Hey - switch those computers off you bastards - you're generating carbon emissions.
Ott^
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 19:38
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On 2005-03-16 11:54, wezzy wrote:


We also plan to build a village, that will be self sustained and we will work in with the harmony of the universe, money will not exist in the village! instead we will all work together and provide a healthy life style for you and the environment!



I'll give you 4 weeks before somebody comes storming into the village square going "Ok - who ate my last sausage??!!"


andrejcid
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 19:43
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On 2005-03-16 19:32, Ott^ wrote:
Hey - switch those computers off you bastards - you're generating carbon emissions.



My modeling supercomputer shows a lack of carbon being generated from ur computer.
go in your studio u lazy bastard and make me 'smoked glass & chrome' part 2!!!!need to make love soon...need a boost.
i'll take care of the CO2
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Onnomon

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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 19:49
to quote something earlier "...let the tribes rise...", and when that happens everybody can live like the Afghanies do. Where the landowner and warlords (alpha males) call the shots and you pay tribute to them.

I know there are many out there who have similar aspirations. One pitfall of such communities is the relative isolation they unwittingly put themselves in. If such a group of people have such a brilliant working plan and way-of-life, and grow the best vegatables, then they should share and allow scrutiny by the "outside". I have had arguments with such people who don't want to share, at least demonstrate, the ideas they espouse...seems more about "dropping out of the machine".

That said, this plastic world also gives you certain tools you might take for granted, like the computers you use, make the music you listen to, the PA's you dance to. Once this is reconciled, then one has a fighting chance at being harmonious.

In my view, the material goods we surround ourselves with can be seen as either tools or toys. I prefer tools, those things that I can build with. Toys are a mere distraction. Perhaps the classic case that our dear friend my refer to is the person whose worth in the world is measured by the visible affluence of goods...i.e. Humvee (big fucking SUV), Rolex watch, etc. That's not to say that by virtue of owning a Rolex it makes you a purely materialistic person, Rolex's are good quality watches, there's nothing wrong with having the best quality you can afford (the desire to "afford more" however can be a pitfall, especially if you're well past the substanance level). A related topic are the concepts of "fair value" and "market value"...see the writings of Wendell Berry, a naturalist and farmer for more on this overlooked set of concepts, related to greed and desire.

In parts of the NYC metro area, affluence is demonstration by large bulky gold medillions (gold chains). I've not seen much of this in Kentucky where I used to live.

Some of you may not have seen this quote from the 70's:

"Think Global, Act Local" - Hazel Henderson


best of luck, don't drop out 'cause if you do then it's like you've never existed in the first place, so what's the point?

besides, once the earth rids itself of these pesky fleas (homo sapiens), then the itching will stop. Gaia is impatient for the next asteroid strike to move things along!

-dz

Psycosmo
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 20:25
>>>.yes fake and plastic, the real world is not nature or organic, people trap in there world with insurance, morgage oh i need that new dress oh i need to spend $200 on my hair and i need a conditioner to help it stay in my hair, is this real and nature?<<<<<

When you get down to it, yes that synthetic manmade crap is part of nature. People buy these expensive products to increase their odds of reproduction with the mate of their choice and to display their place in the socieoeconomic order. It's as natural as the courtship and dominance behaviors of any other species.

Peace
Surrender
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 21:02
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On 2005-03-16 19:32, Ott^ wrote:
Hey - switch those computers off you bastards - you're generating carbon emissions.



haha, very amusing comment to a euphoric (possibly naive) notion...
let us know how it goes wezzy, send the info by a courier pigeon.
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rich
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Posted : Mar 16, 2005 22:16
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On 2005-03-16 19:38, Ott^ wrote:
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On 2005-03-16 11:54, wezzy wrote:


We also plan to build a village, that will be self sustained and we will work in with the harmony of the universe, money will not exist in the village! instead we will all work together and provide a healthy life style for you and the environment!



I'll give you 4 weeks before somebody comes storming into the village square going "Ok - who ate my last sausage??!!"




Got me laughing my head off here at work. thanks a lot. But it's true, people are people and we're not all like jesus.

'Cept me, I think I'm pretty close. hmm, anymore room for me wezzy?

furthur
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Posted : Mar 17, 2005 00:37
We are all like Jesus. We just might not know it.           Load Universe into Cannon. Aim at Brain. Fire.

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wezzy

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Posted : Mar 17, 2005 09:02
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On 2005-03-16 17:32, EYB wrote:
Yes the world needs change.

But this project will us not lead through the future. U have to think further, don't try to go back go forward.
U can't have science projects in a small village. U can't explore space with some people living in a small village.
But the future of human being lies in travelling to space, and ur are blind if u say we can stay on earth for all times.
We need science, plastic and unorganic stuff is also part of our live, part of our 'new' nature. So go on go forward. If u want to change the world u have to change peoples minds and u need to believe in god (the all in one thing) AND science as part of it.




Yes your right, we plan to stay in contact with the world, and use technology and nature, combine the both, to help each other and the planet, we need to eat organic food , so we dont get piosoned, but we need technology for cures for disese and famine, and space travel! we need the best of both worlds, yes indeed!
EYB
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Posted : Mar 17, 2005 09:59
Yeah, ok then i think it is a nice idea
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wezzy

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Posted : Mar 17, 2005 10:43
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On 2005-03-17 00:37, furthur wrote:
We are all like Jesus. We just might not know it.




yes we all are connected to the cosmic spirit, we all are of the same matter, in different forms! i am you , you are me!
we all have a destiny, to better ourselfs and the world, just like jesus!

i also plan to grow organic vegies ect.. to feed the homeless and drug addicts, i think hand grown organic food has magic and will empower the people, freshly organic grown food has lost knowlegde, eating it empowers us, fill us with lost knowlegde!
wezzy

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Posted : Mar 17, 2005 10:53
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On 2005-03-16 19:38, Ott^ wrote:
Quote:

On 2005-03-16 11:54, wezzy wrote:


We also plan to build a village, that will be self sustained and we will work in with the harmony of the universe, money will not exist in the village! instead we will all work together and provide a healthy life style for you and the environment!



I'll give you 4 weeks before somebody comes storming into the village square going "Ok - who ate my last sausage??!!"






do you know about harmonic balance? obviously not, its all about working in a harmonic way, doing whats wright by your people and the earth, so we can all live in harmony. You can not steal a sausage because everything will be free, that kind of behavier can not exist, there will be no money! the only reason people steal is because of money, the root of all evil!

We will also be working with the outside world educating, working and playing!

we will have ware houses in the city, so we can choose if we wont to live in city or country, we plan to have wares houses and villages accross the country and the world, so we can travel and have many choices, variety is the spice of life! this is the future and its born from Psy! and taught by the fairys & Pixies.
HandA
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Posted : Mar 17, 2005 11:13
And how exactly do you plan to work with the outside world and get technology without money? And all over the World? Getting a bit carried away here?

Sorry to offend you but your a bit naive mate
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