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Real DJs ???? COPIES KILL OUR SCENE (SPECIAL FOR" Djs'

sahedelic
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Posted : Dec 23, 2005 14:52
Ok,it would be nice to have a profesional dj like you into our privete party           I am everywhere & nowhere
Koumpi Or Mitsubi?????
I'm in love with 2 red eyes.
odysseus
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Dec 23, 2005 15:02
call absolut zero
he is better from me...

          give me darma, take your karma..
sahedelic
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Posted : Dec 23, 2005 15:03
I don't like his style very much,I like more the dark sounds           I am everywhere & nowhere
Koumpi Or Mitsubi?????
I'm in love with 2 red eyes.
odysseus
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Posted : Dec 23, 2005 15:08
ok...
          give me darma, take your karma..
jimbo-madness

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Posted : Dec 24, 2005 10:50
Well for sure this topic has been made from an owner of a record label......but i completely agree with him.Djs are everywhere....Many ppl think that they are good djs.......but in reality sucks!!!!.....
First of all the most djs mixing with mp3. These ppl are misserable.....and we must laugh at them not dancing!!! (i dont want to expand on a subject about the sound differencies between mp3 and wav...but for sure are obvious to ppl who can listen carefully )If u want to be a dj u have to respect artist,labels,crowd.And bying music means that u help your scene to grow up or even more to survive!!!If djs dont care for that then its better to go and F**k them selves.....they deserve it
However mp3 cannot stop exist neither sharing through the net can stop.....What i do with mp3 is to make the market research because psy trance is full of new labels and artists
And i m not that much wealthy in order to buy all the music of the month.......Something else is that original cds getting out of stock really fast so its possible not to find them!!Then you have to copy it!
Strato my friend dont forget that u have the label.....and that means artists send u music .....unrealsed or realesed!!
But the most of us we are not owners of a label and we must find alone our resources!!
And net is the widest place to find what we're looking for!!!+internet is full of unrealesed killer tracks:P
Screw the fake djs!!!
Mp3 kings kiss my dirty ass !!

respect the music bying music!!

happy xmas hollidays.....
Happy end
jimbo-madness

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Posts :  23
Posted : Dec 24, 2005 11:42
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On 2005-12-23 12:02, thinman242 wrote:
Music and generaly ,access to stuff that people want to buy to satisfy or grow their culture like books, cd's, dvd's are very expensive to a middle salary person.I don't aggree with stratos and his topic.From the time that people can get cheaper or free something that it's on their interest they will get it,without thinking the consequences.They don't care like i personally don't care if sony or virgin or smaller label's and distributors get poorer.The only thing i care is to get what i want with my pocket untouched.I m not selfish. i am a middle salary man and music,film fan.In some years artists who want to sell their work they will sell it via internet cheaper without make the companies richer and their selves slaves.Before many years ago i can afford buing a cd or a vinyl because the market was smaller and i was waiting something to be released for many weeks even months. and when i bought it i was listening the same stuff for a long long time.now days companies and consumers became greedy. releasing 2-5 products in a period of 2 months of their material consumers want them all has as an outcome this situation that stratos describes and make a topic for it.
And in a small scene (dance,psy-trance,chill,ambient) compare to bigger ones things will get more difficult.And my reply will be much bigger if i will write about dj's and their financial situation.


Excuse me u said that is a lot of money to buy music........is in't expensive and much more to buy drugs in a party ??? The most of them are poor and spend respectable amounts for d***s
So that is not a good excuse mate......just u prefer to get something for free than to pay it !!!.......But dont forget....u buy what u pay (oti plhrwneis agorazeis)

Aris


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Posts :  212
Posted : Dec 24, 2005 20:44
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On 2005-12-23 13:30, maidex wrote:
hey guys why u attack with ironic style and 10 words
why? you cant do a discussion ?u have personal problems with Stratos?come on guys!!!!!!!!




This is a typical Greek mentality-DYSTYXOS-

Hey ppl this topic is not 4 Stratos pocket is for what we love,music..Ppl that saying that our scene is underground and blablabla they r missing the hole point,the thing that we love music,again..

How this ppl expect to have N E W music all time if they KILLING this ..

Iam totally agree with Stratos..

Kala Xristougenna:))))
vajrasana
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  95
Posted : Dec 25, 2005 13:21
mp3 killing music
good music killing piracy
if we respect artists we have to pay.
thinman242


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Posts :  78
Posted : Dec 25, 2005 17:37
jimbo-madness no one mentioned d***s.The subject here is music.i agree that mp3 sucks and an mp3 track is impossible to reach the quality of a wav file and a wav file is impossible to reach a vynil sound.i wrote in my previous repply that i blame the labels for this situation with mp3's but i didn't said anything about the people who download mp3 and how they use them.So a dj who respect himself and his audience don't play mp3 and if he is professional he will demand to be paid as a pro .An mp3 dj which mostly belongs to new generation he don't respect himself and his audience and the only thing he wants is to play to a bar or club many times for no money and the promoter who sucks 2,will be happy like the dj. so this is circle and a huge subject with many branches ....who is good dj why good dj's don't play bla bla etc.this will be my last repply in this topic.
Liquid Wizard


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Posted : Dec 25, 2005 23:54
Music must not be privilege only of those who can afford buying it. We live in difiicult times if you haven't notised it. Don't expect that people who listen to this music will spend money from their limited budgets to buy original cds when they can have it for free via p2p sharing(speaking from my point of view). Come on guys get real you really thing that anyone will sacrifice a night out with his girlfriend and friends in order to buy original cds? Where you live? Do you know that in 2004 we had more than 2000 releases in psy and prog? Do you know how much money you need to pay for getting a small percentage of them? So, share and dont trade. Music is a gift for everyone not for an elite. By the way i have 25GB in mp3s of 2005 in prog and psy, anyone who wants me to give him/her tracks and full cds just pm me
DETOX
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Posted : Dec 26, 2005 22:03
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On 2005-12-25 23:54, Liquid Wizard wrote:
Music is a gift for everyone not for an elite.



Music is a luxurious thing and not a necessity for human mankind.

Food and water is a necessity,education the same BUT music is not a gift from anyone to anyone and is considered a luxurious good in our days since it falls to the entertaiment category.

If an artist wants to offer his music for free to the people then go on and take it but if me the label releases a cd and i have paid a serious ammount of money to release this cd then if you want this cd you must buy it and not get it in any other illegal way.

And to answer your question YES if someone wants to listen to new music then he must sacrifice a night out with his friends in order to get that cd,i wanted to buy a new house and i sacrificed a lot for many years in order to achieve that,now i want to buy a new car and i didnt do any shopping this christmas in order for me to reach my goal so why shouldnt other people sacrifice some of their coffee and cigarretes in order to buy new music?

Its not about being among the elite of rich and famous or not,its about being able to make an economic plan and be wise on spending your budget,and if you think that you dont have enough money then you can always get a second and even third job if needed in order to satisfy your needs and wishes.

If you want to download music for free just because you can do it (unlike a new pair of shoes or a new jacket or car that you cant just download using your bright new ADSL line) then do it ok BUT PLEASE DONT COME IN PUBLIC AND SAY BULLSHIT THAT MUSIC IS A GIFT AND NOT A PRIVILEGE FOR THE ELITE.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
VRIL GIA


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Posts :  112
Posted : Dec 27, 2005 15:06
music is food for our soul
so everyone can hear everything
and it doesn"t muter if some guys feel
that this is a privilege..!
all you have to do is stay psychedelic..
also exist track that companies refused to realse some track so they bublish them via internet...
Psy_mystic
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  448
Posted : Dec 27, 2005 18:47
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Music is a luxurious thing and not a necessity for human mankind.


Detox mate ..WTF?????
Quote:

BUT PLEASE DONT COME IN PUBLIC AND SAY BULLSHIT THAT MUSIC IS A GIFT AND NOT A PRIVILEGE FOR THE ELITE


so what gives you the right to say bullshit in public mate?
Remember :
never try convincing some1 over your opinion cause in the end u might both be wrong .

if you want luxury try searching somewhere else.This music is by the ppl for the ppl .
I mean whats wrong with you! Why is it so bad and "wrong" to dance to mp3s??
let anyone who wants to listen to mp3s to just do it.wtf do u care sto finale??
afou eiste toso pathiasmenoi na "sosete" tin skini tote ante vgeite kai kante to .

PS- Do you really think that if ALL the producers and labels just quit, then WE the PEOPLE will not have any music in our lifes


          "Detox is for queers"
Sakiskimo
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  2012
Posted : Dec 27, 2005 19:25
Copies kill your scene but you still take very good moneys from parties. . .
From the uther side cds kill my pocket but i must go to the party too blast so i pay. . .

And We are all Happy, you take money from party and i dont pay for cds. . .            (`·._.· Everything interesting begins in the mind ·._.·´)
Cy High
IsraTrance Junior Member

Started Topics :  15
Posts :  114
Posted : Dec 27, 2005 19:39
i believe the most fair is downloading your mp3s for 1-2 dollars each. This way you dont have to buy a whole CD for 1 song. And you still pay something for the people who made it.           Ehm..
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