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psytrance has reached a new low

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Atma

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Posted : May 6, 2008 12:53
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On 2008-05-04 23:16, Remy [POF] wrote:
Btw this topic is making me think of something that John Williams once said...

"The difference between a good composer and a great composer is that the great composer can copy someone without getting caught"

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hehe...just like he, copied R.Wagner in almost all his compositions ...hehe

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Ascension
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Posted : May 6, 2008 16:40
I personally think that the only one who has a right to bitch about this is the producer who got their style "stolen". If you don't like the music that's out there, make your own. Put up or shut up is what I say.           http://soundcloud.com/ascensionsound
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gazella


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Posted : May 6, 2008 19:31
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On 2008-05-04 20:10, Remy [POF] wrote:
Im sorry but if you find these 2 tracks similar, you could also start to comparing all the shitty 150bpm dark acts that uses the exact same kickbasses and fx from track to track...

We don't see anyone bitching about that...




i don't think you should turn that way..we aren't disscusing about why style it happends..because in bothe has... were discussing this special case in particular.
and IMO..yes dark use the same bass or kicks..but never copying pasting..and i consider it more like an artesanal work..and i will not compare it to full on..because theres no need to start a battle here           
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On 2007-11-22 00:38, gazella wrote:
maybe I'm high or simplly kuku ...but its all about the vibe



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Posted : May 6, 2008 19:51
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Xolvexs
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Posted : May 7, 2008 17:10
i think you guys are focusing too much on the content, the track has good structure...its not over the top, its a typical full on frame...if you like full on style this a good example...it may not be innovative or groundbreaking..people would dance and scream get excited...thats the true test...ur taste means nothing           When death comes to your doorstep, make sure you are alive
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Posted : May 7, 2008 19:16
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On 2008-05-07 17:10, doughcherry wrote:
i think you guys are focusing too much on the content, the track has good structure...its not over the top, its a typical full on frame...if you like full on style this a good example...it may not be innovative or groundbreaking..people would dance and scream get excited...thats the true test...ur taste means nothing





there was a time psychedelic trance and the counterculture around it, like many other countercoultures, intended to be NON CONFORMIST an option to the mainstream, giving much more value to artistic work as opossed to easy listening pop and provide a Radical AUdio and Visual Experience.

This things reduces music to Mctrance.
mubali
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Posted : May 8, 2008 19:42
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mk47
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Posted : May 9, 2008 07:27
genre bashing is lame , don't like it ? -> don't listen
rich
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Posted : May 9, 2008 08:16
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On 2008-05-09 07:27, mk47 wrote:
genre bashing is lame , don't like it ? -> don't listen




It's not genre bashing, it's defending the integrity of original music.

mk47
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Posted : May 10, 2008 09:55
true , i take that back , listen to this :

http://www.myspace.com/highpulsemusic

1st track on player , wtf
neuromantik
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Posted : May 10, 2008 12:32
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On 2008-05-10 09:55, mk47 wrote:
true , i take that back , listen to this :

http://www.myspace.com/highpulsemusic

1st track on player , wtf



God I can't believe used to be Darkpsy, indeed wtf? That track made my ears vomit
Sputer
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Posted : May 10, 2008 13:14
actually the track posted here from Saikosounds website is'nt so much like astrix - poison..

it just another "regular full on" that remind 2903892 full on morning trax.. but not a copy of 'Poison'

so this is really unrespectful to write about an artist that he is a copycat, Im sure he sat and work hard 4 this track..


If u want me to give u a real example of cocpycat trax, just say.. I remember at least 2 trax that made me laugh so much..

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heretical


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Posted : May 10, 2008 15:35
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so this is really unrespectful to write about an artist that he is a copycat, Im sure he sat and work hard 4 this track..



I give up. I'm not a fan of full on but at least Astrix - Poison had a little bit of creativity with that those cut up audio parts that provided some "ummfff" to the start of the track...this guys track that I originally posted clearly ripped that off.

I've really come to the conclusion that the intelligence of people that listen to this genre has just gotten to low at the average to even bother conversing with as a whole. The idea people can actually defend this shit is pure proof of the outright stupidity
that evolved/been atracted to this genre. Its all a lost cause.
neuromantik
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Posted : May 10, 2008 16:47
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On 2008-05-10 15:35, heretical wrote:
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so this is really unrespectful to write about an artist that he is a copycat, Im sure he sat and work hard 4 this track..



I give up. I'm not a fan of full on but at least Astrix - Poison had a little bit of creativity with that those cut up audio parts that provided some "ummfff" to the start of the track...this guys track that I originally posted clearly ripped that off.

I've really come to the conclusion that the intelligence of people that listen to this genre has just gotten to low at the average to even bother conversing with as a whole. The idea people can actually defend this shit is pure proof of the outright stupidity
that evolved/been atracted to this genre. Its all a lost cause.



Can you please tell us sceptics at what time index is it a ripoff? I fail to hear any lifted melody, and all full on basslines are pretty much the same.

Actually, I'm not a good judge, since for me most (not all) morning full on sounds the same to me...
ocelot
ocelot

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Posted : May 15, 2008 09:17
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On 2008-05-04 14:46, DJ Chet wrote:
it sounds good, and I like music that sounds good. why whine about it?



because you are opening the door for computers to make the music for us.
...

and if you trust a music creator that only uses samples and pre-recorded synth parts- it means he/she will not know what to do when their song needs something- some original part. etc...

i think its liking trusting your surgery with someone who knows how to dress and speak like a doctor and even owns a stethascope but doesnt know what he/she is doing...

making music from sample libraries causes the boring music of today.

get a life

- i suppose you will tell me a sex doll is close enough for the real thing?


- this is not about genre bashing but about making clear that some people put a lot of work thought and effort into their music and others are lazy motherfuckers.

and YOU the listener - can you tell the difference?

dont call laziness a genre...
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