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Psycatdelic


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Posts :  32
Posted : Jul 3, 2012 22:39
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On 2012-07-03 21:41, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 19:42, Psycatdelic wrote:
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On 2012-07-01 18:45, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-01 17:01, Psycatdelic wrote:

It's not all about amazing spiritual experiences that 'connect us with god' sometimes it can be very simple realizations that drugs opened up to us.


Who said anything about amazing spiritual experiences with God?

It is possible to have very simple realizations without drugs.



Well obviously, but they may have been unreachable without drugs too.

It just sounds like you're either trolling or arguing for the sake of arguing now. I don't honestly believe that someone can split hairs to this extent.
treetrunks

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Posts :  56
Posted : Jul 4, 2012 11:35
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On 2012-07-03 22:39, Psycatdelic wrote:
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On 2012-07-03 21:41, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 19:42, Psycatdelic wrote:
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On 2012-07-01 18:45, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-01 17:01, Psycatdelic wrote:

It's not all about amazing spiritual experiences that 'connect us with god' sometimes it can be very simple realizations that drugs opened up to us.


Who said anything about amazing spiritual experiences with God?

It is possible to have very simple realizations without drugs.



Well obviously, but they may have been unreachable without drugs too.

It just sounds like you're either trolling or arguing for the sake of arguing now. I don't honestly believe that someone can split hairs to this extent.




I am not surprised you have resulted to name calling.
Psycatdelic


Started Topics :  2
Posts :  32
Posted : Jul 4, 2012 13:28
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On 2012-07-04 11:35, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-03 22:39, Psycatdelic wrote:
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On 2012-07-03 21:41, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 19:42, Psycatdelic wrote:
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On 2012-07-01 18:45, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-01 17:01, Psycatdelic wrote:

It's not all about amazing spiritual experiences that 'connect us with god' sometimes it can be very simple realizations that drugs opened up to us.


Who said anything about amazing spiritual experiences with God?

It is possible to have very simple realizations without drugs.



Well obviously, but they may have been unreachable without drugs too.

It just sounds like you're either trolling or arguing for the sake of arguing now. I don't honestly believe that someone can split hairs to this extent.




I am not surprised you have resulted to name calling.



What are you in this thread for?
treetrunks

Started Topics :  0
Posts :  56
Posted : Jul 4, 2012 16:01
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On 2012-07-04 13:28, Psycatdelic wrote:
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On 2012-07-04 11:35, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-03 22:39, Psycatdelic wrote:
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On 2012-07-03 21:41, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 19:42, Psycatdelic wrote:
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On 2012-07-01 18:45, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-01 17:01, Psycatdelic wrote:

It's not all about amazing spiritual experiences that 'connect us with god' sometimes it can be very simple realizations that drugs opened up to us.


Who said anything about amazing spiritual experiences with God?

It is possible to have very simple realizations without drugs.



Well obviously, but they may have been unreachable without drugs too.

It just sounds like you're either trolling or arguing for the sake of arguing now. I don't honestly believe that someone can split hairs to this extent.




I am not surprised you have resulted to name calling.



What are you in this thread for?




Giving an opinion, that's kind of how it works with message boards.

Your view point has been challenged, so you look to discredit the person who offers an opinion that challenges yours, great. -=thumbs up=-
Psycatdelic


Started Topics :  2
Posts :  32
Posted : Jul 4, 2012 19:29
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On 2012-07-04 16:01, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-04 13:28, Psycatdelic wrote:
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On 2012-07-04 11:35, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-03 22:39, Psycatdelic wrote:
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On 2012-07-03 21:41, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 19:42, Psycatdelic wrote:
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On 2012-07-01 18:45, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-01 17:01, Psycatdelic wrote:

It's not all about amazing spiritual experiences that 'connect us with god' sometimes it can be very simple realizations that drugs opened up to us.


Who said anything about amazing spiritual experiences with God?

It is possible to have very simple realizations without drugs.



Well obviously, but they may have been unreachable without drugs too.

It just sounds like you're either trolling or arguing for the sake of arguing now. I don't honestly believe that someone can split hairs to this extent.




I am not surprised you have resulted to name calling.



What are you in this thread for?




Giving an opinion, that's kind of how it works with message boards.

Your view point has been challenged, so you look to discredit the person who offers an opinion that challenges yours, great. -=thumbs up=-



You're not giving an opinion, all you're doing in this thread is picking apart other people's no matter how small or insignificant the point is. We have a word for that; it's called trolling.
treetrunks

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Posts :  56
Posted : Jul 4, 2012 23:30
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You're not giving an opinion, all you're doing in this thread is picking apart other people's no matter how small or insignificant the point is. We have a word for that; it's called trolling.




My opinion has remained consistent, it is an opinion, my opinion. To say otherwise is just plain fascist.
ZenMind
ZenMind

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Posts :  251
Posted : Jul 5, 2012 02:08
Great page design with all the quotes, zx spectrum styla.

No drugs for army boy, that's an order soldier! Now go peel a sack of potatoes.

If you cant reach enlightenment by freeing yourself of the chains that bind you, shoot it!

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Djones
IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posts :  1766
Posted : Jul 5, 2012 20:13
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On 2012-07-02 12:59, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 11:45, psychedanic wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 02:13, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 01:30, psychedanic wrote:
I love psytrance sober, but psytrance on LSD is another fuckin' experience entirely.



Pretty much everything is "another fuckin' experience" on LSD, even having a shit.



Yussss, true. Psychedelic music just sounds more, I dunno, 'proper' on it. As clichéd as it sounds, the music feels like it makes much more sense; each sound fitting like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, coming in waves... Eep. Now I'm getting a bit too subjective.



Some people still achieve this connection with the music sober, it's easier with the drugs, some people need the help I guess.



I don't think you can achieve the same distortions in your senses (like LSD does to you), while being sober.
The experience is just so different, everything sounds organic, 'it breaths', swirls, pumps, phases and flanges all over the place.

It's just not happening without drugs.
treetrunks

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Posts :  56
Posted : Jul 5, 2012 21:45
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On 2012-07-05 20:13, Djones wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 12:59, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 11:45, psychedanic wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 02:13, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 01:30, psychedanic wrote:
I love psytrance sober, but psytrance on LSD is another fuckin' experience entirely.



Pretty much everything is "another fuckin' experience" on LSD, even having a shit.



Yussss, true. Psychedelic music just sounds more, I dunno, 'proper' on it. As clichéd as it sounds, the music feels like it makes much more sense; each sound fitting like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, coming in waves... Eep. Now I'm getting a bit too subjective.



Some people still achieve this connection with the music sober, it's easier with the drugs, some people need the help I guess.



I don't think you can achieve the same distortions in your senses (like LSD does to you), while being sober.
The experience is just so different, everything sounds organic, 'it breaths', swirls, pumps, phases and flanges all over the place.

It's just not happening without drugs.



Sleep deprivation. I know I am not alone with this experience.
Psycatdelic


Started Topics :  2
Posts :  32
Posted : Jul 5, 2012 22:28
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On 2012-07-05 21:45, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-05 20:13, Djones wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 12:59, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 11:45, psychedanic wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 02:13, treetrunks wrote:
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On 2012-07-02 01:30, psychedanic wrote:
I love psytrance sober, but psytrance on LSD is another fuckin' experience entirely.



Pretty much everything is "another fuckin' experience" on LSD, even having a shit.



Yussss, true. Psychedelic music just sounds more, I dunno, 'proper' on it. As clichéd as it sounds, the music feels like it makes much more sense; each sound fitting like the pieces of a jigsaw puzzle, coming in waves... Eep. Now I'm getting a bit too subjective.



Some people still achieve this connection with the music sober, it's easier with the drugs, some people need the help I guess.



I don't think you can achieve the same distortions in your senses (like LSD does to you), while being sober.
The experience is just so different, everything sounds organic, 'it breaths', swirls, pumps, phases and flanges all over the place.

It's just not happening without drugs.



Sleep deprivation. I know I am not alone with this experience.



Sleep deprivation is nothing like LSD. There's a lot more to LSD than just visuals, it's very much a waking experience.

You don't sound like you know much about drugs at all, and before you see that as an attempt to 'discredit' you, remember that you just tried to compare someone on the internet to a fascist. See how one might easily perceive you as a troll?
treetrunks

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Posts :  56
Posted : Jul 5, 2012 22:42
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Sleep deprivation is nothing like LSD. There's a lot more to LSD than just visuals, it's very much a waking experience.

You don't sound like you know much about drugs at all, and before you see that as an attempt to 'discredit' you, remember that you just tried to compare someone on the internet to a fascist. See how one might easily perceive you as a troll?




A name for a name. We can play stupid cunts until the next life.
Login
IsraTrance Full Member

Started Topics :  65
Posts :  1707
Posted : Jul 6, 2012 00:18
Oh look a troll!!!           "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
treetrunks

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Posts :  56
Posted : Jul 6, 2012 03:08
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On 2012-07-06 00:18, Login wrote:
Oh look a troll!!!




here we go
treetrunks

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Posted : Jul 6, 2012 03:09
name calling
treetrunks

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Posted : Jul 6, 2012 03:09
I feel the love.
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