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Psychoactives & Trance Forum Proposal

The Green Channel
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Posted : Feb 9, 2006 16:24
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On 2006-02-08 22:44, Colin OOOD wrote:
Talking about psytrance without talking about drugs is like talking about the Beatles without mentioning John Lennon. Or drugs.

IMO



Completly agree .           "Love is a way of life"

(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna)
The Green Channel
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Posted : Feb 9, 2006 16:53
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On 2006-02-08 23:24, crovax wrote:
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On 2006-02-08 09:53, The Green Channel wrote:
A Neurotransmitter like DMT, the active substance in a cocktail like Ayahuasca is absolutely HARMLESS. If you prepare your DEVINE “drink” properly, you will feel refreshed following a single session. No hangover, no neurological agitation, just a feeling of pure bliss. Compare this Exp. to a devoted Buddhist monk, who goes through immense physical stress, pressure and even severe pain in-order achieve a deep state of trance. While my method feels exhilarating and extraordinarily intense, nonetheless, no pain is required; only ecstasy, elation and wisdom are the consequences of my practices.


Well I guess you have never thought of that the most powerful substance is in your own brain? Some gland excretes endogenous DMT, and this can be accessed with the trance dance experience, not only by buddhist zen munks. I don't have anything against psychoactive drugs, but it seems like you have problems with accepting psychedelic state of mind without eating the psychedelics. Psychedelics are within you



My brother, from another mother,
I know that , have you read Dr. Rick Strassman's book? Called: DMT; the Spirit molecule. He actually suggests, that natural DMT is released in our brains when we are born and, when we die.
Don't get me wrong, Buddhism is cool for some people, I even enjoy buddhist litterature, yet, my path is a different one, a dogameless path.

The question isn't whether I respect people who don't use Entheogenics, the question is whether a new-age fan like yourself
, can respect me.
The real strength of Entheogenics is the repeatability of the Exp. Over and over´, deeper and deeper.
          "Love is a way of life"

(Gaia, Love, Nature, Shamanism (.2A.y.0a.hu.1a.sc.2a.), Terence McKenna)
Colin OOOD
OOOD/Voice of Cod

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Posted : Feb 10, 2006 22:47
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On 2006-02-09 00:15, Krell wrote:
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On 2006-02-08 22:44, Colin OOOD wrote:
Talking about psytrance without talking about drugs is like talking about the Beatles without mentioning John Lennon. Or drugs.

IMO




But drugs being discussed in relation to psytrance is not something that is being moderated in the current form.

So, in relation to the proposal, do you think isratrance would benefit from a pure drug forum ? Or are you happy with the way its already being done ?

Best Wishes

Krell




I do think there is a tendency on this forum to close down any conversation that includes drugs - even those concerned with harm reduction. IMO this is a shame as there is much to be learned about the interaction between exogenous and endogenous factors when discussing the process and effects of trance. However if this is just my perception of the moderation policy here then please accept my apologies - although I'll need links to active threads containing drug discussions before I'm fully convinced!           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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