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XrTC
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Posted : Nov 7, 2005 21:03
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Psy_mystic,
first of all you can't be sure that everyone reading this forum is an 'adult', especially the way you define adults. also, since you concider yourself such an adult, you should be able to understand that writing such things as "psychedelics are good, they open your mind" etc in a public forum where you can't control who is reading it, is a totally irresponsible thing to do!
so, hold yourself for a minute and think how responsible is what you wrote. i am not saying that this is a topic that shouldn't be discussed, on the contrary! it should be discussed and very seriously too. but, i feel that this is not the place for such a discussion. imagine a kid reading a topic like this, what would be his next action? i bet it would be smth like "oooh this LSD must be awesome! i will be a psychonaut! yeah! and i will really feel the music! cool!" and you know how it goes...
so, you are foul since the start of this thread. and since we talk about responsibilities, i will elaborate the family matter a bit more. and when i say "family" i don't only mean your parents. your husband/wife and kids is also your family. and you have to be responsible towards them as well. do you really think that a parent that uses drugs can be truly responsible towards his family?
that's where the protection of the laws come into play. cos loss is not only death. i have seen a person so lost (cos of psychedelics) that couldn't take care of himself, imagine taking care of others! as about your argument with the joint example, although it seems like a strong argument, i don't see how someone that gets caught smoking a spliff is more responsible than the others using harder drugs. i know people with wives and kids and they still smoke in their 50s, but they take care so as not to get caught (don't ask me how it's done) and above all, they are *responsible* towards their family.
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Respect is earned, not demanded...
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Psy_mystic
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Posted : Nov 7, 2005 23:23
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my friend xrtc,i really like your point of view on this topic ,its always good to have a healthy argument !i must say that yeah, what u say is true-moreover the reason that i shouldn't say those things is the reason why i did!i dont know if u follow me (i hope so!  )
I believe that ppl should know about these things but i am getting relly dissapointed noticing that most ppl arent ready for that -including adults.
thanx for your comments, i didnt mean what i said in that (bad) way .. I have learned that ppl might make their own meaning of what u say...it makes me a bit sad i have to say but ,hey!
iwant to believe that some day u will b able to talk about these things openly ,without any fears and regrets.
cheers for sharing your thoughs mate..
KIDS STAY OUT OF PSYCHEDELICS!!
PEACE
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JasOn TeGmA
Tegma
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 00:30
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Stop fighting ma+lkes....!!!!
There is no need to make drugs if u understand the music. But if some people want to do things like that, then its good for them. Iv never done drugs even if i had listend to this kind of music since 1996.
I just drink to much FRAPPE
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CRX(HSS Records)
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tim@motion
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 03:19
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This conversation can go for ages as allready said. To be honest, yes i need someone to protect me from time to time. This will be my girlfriend and my good friends and not the laws or some irrelevant ppl. And i am much more over 30 (don't ask how much more  )
Psy mystic ,i think that you are somehow obsessed with the idea of substances. I trully don't blame you for this.
Just try to realise that addiction is mainly mentaly and not physical. It is an eternal torture the secret desire for lickinng a drop, swallowing an xtc, snifing a line, pop an acid beneath your toung etc etc.
I don't know what the laws are like, i don't care about what cops are thinking. Thankfully i came up up to my own conclusions
. I've seen so much pain and tragedies throughout drugs of any kind, that there is not even one possitive thinking left inside me about it.
And believe me ,some times it is better to talk about lethal drugs rather than dead brains .Sometimes death looks like a releaf for someone who has become psychotic throughout "unlethal drugs" such as the psychedelic chemicals.
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 09:11
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"Normal" people 1 - "psychonauts" (  ) 0
Where the f*ck is Gopendra when you need him/her?
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hehe you need me buddy,thanks you remember me,hehe
another one topic about substances,ok I like to argue,hehe
but I am not going to fall in this drug trap again.
Substances are good if yo know how to use them.Someone who is adicted in alcohol surelly is worst from someone who is adicted with smoke.Trance is a state that we usually reach with substances and psychedelics works better with hallucinogenics...I prefer to be "burned" than to be blind and sleepy...
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 11:56
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On 2005-11-07 23:23, Psy_mystic wrote:
thanx for your comments, i didnt mean what i said in that (bad) way .. I have learned that ppl might make their own meaning of what u say...it makes me a bit sad i have to say but ,hey!
iwant to believe that some day u will b able to talk about these things openly ,without any fears and regrets.
cheers for sharing your thoughs mate..
KIDS STAY OUT OF PSYCHEDELICS!!
PEACE
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^^^Gopendra are you taking notes?
Good on ya Psy_mystic, at least you realised quickly that you were out of order. There is still hope for you. 
I've been living in the UK for 6 years now. You should never compare it to the homeland. It is like comparing apples and oranges.
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Trance is a state that we usually reach with substances and psychedelics works better with hallucinogenics...I prefer to be "burned" than to be blind and sleepy...
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Gopendra, why do have to be so extreme?
You don't have to be blind and you don't have to get burned (is it too late for that? )
"Pan metron ariston" mate, we greeks have our own wise "gurus" too. Sounds like you can't have a bit of something, because you're afraid you might end up doing "normal" things, that "normal" people do. On the contrary you make over the top statements like that one...why?
Don't force things dude/dudette, just chill out and enjoy the ride.
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other_reality
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 12:22
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@Jason/Tegma
Do you prefer your Frappe with baileys?
Coz that explains a lot for 9 years inside psy u know?
Bring yourselves into the light
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 12:30
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14 year old e-tard as yoy grow up you learn that "pan metron ariston "is diferent from a person to person ,and realise how we could use substances and music for healing dude/dudette.My mind and my microcosm is more much ready to receive the light of hallucinogenics and use it for cooking or to warm my soul or to light the dark places of my soul without get blind from such much light,or get sleepy from a trance overdose,there is big diference from burned to burned.About the greek gurus like platwn or other hindu there is so many common things at their beliefs with different words between them.
...as I was coming back from mars I was watching you trying to escape from earth,and that is good for you,never to late for psychedelic space trip.
I would not recoment to a newbe start playing with fire because that will make loose control and surely get burned without a spiritual guidance...I am not perfect but I am trying man
day by day be better and learn the secret gnosis from healing spirits to give mehelp and help all those who need it.
shamanism is the key for unity harmony ballance love respect and healing.
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 12:38
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On 2005-11-08 12:30, Gopendra wrote:
there is big diference from burned to burned.
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What's that then?
Is it a difference of a few breain cells, or is there more to it?
Enlighten me please!
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tim@motion
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 12:51
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Hey!!!! You call platwn a guru??? like the hindus? There we go again...i will be called racist and fascist again? Then so be it
Platwn ? He was here in this land while hindus were still in a monkey shape trying to get down of the trees man!! The whole early world's philosophy was based on these peoples words and theories. This is why you see common things in their beliefes.
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 12:51
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On 2005-11-08 12:30, Gopendra wrote:
there is big diference from burned to burned.
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What's that then?
Is it a difference of a few breain cells, or is there more to it?
Enlighten me please!
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as you burn your mind you could do it with conciousnes and get as much more macrocosmic elements inside your microcosm with more much subtle energy charghing the body with love and joy and after keep more harmonious ballance.
If you ever had visions the hallucinigenic time while you meditate or trip in deep trance ,and guide your self to the light paths with your heart show you the direct way than when you burn you make it as like cooking a nice new unknown spiritual food wich feeds my mind.When a visionary helpfull spirit gave you the way to escape through the spirit world you have to come back again
with the key you need to open the same gate you left behind,and then fly as much times you need without a substance ,just with a good concious mind altering and trying under a spiritual guidance in the right path.
~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
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14-year old e-tard
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 12:58
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...o k t h e r e
Gopendra, when you meditate and reach enlightment and all that shit, have you ever thought that there is a slight chance that all this happening to you because of chemical reactions that occur in your brain because you just took drugs and not because of some spirit that gave you the way to escape through to the spirit world and back again?
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Nov 8, 2005 13:09
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that is the problem buddy that the most people after a psychedelic space flight loose the way back and dont be able to land with ballance,that is what I mean burned people,empty of emotions and take their drug just for a fun.
I have made many much trips with or without substances and usualy do it with my conciousnes as my guru for each spiritual guidance,my heart .
everything from that macrocosm is somwere hidden inside our microcosm and as much more subtle energy you receive the more much closer you come to these microcosmic elements....and after some years all of your life start to became orgasmic ,like taking naturaldraugs all the time and see psychedelia in each step you do "normaly"
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other_reality
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