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Psychedelic music does not exist.

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IsraTrance Senior Member

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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 12:47
Psychedelic music doesn't really exist. But psychedelic substance reinforced music "tools" does exist.



discuss...

Nathan
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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 13:10
So how can you explain the feelings that the sounds make behind your ears? Feeling that melting the beck part of your head that no other music can do. psy sound can poke your ears!
All that in sober situation!


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Spasm


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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 15:57
My feelings is that most of the music is psychedelic.

"psychedelic"

The word psychedelic is a neologism coined from the Greek words for "mind," (psyche), and "manifest," (delein).


A psychedelic experience is characterized by the perception of aspects of one's mind previously unknown, or by the creative exuberance of the mind liberated from its ordinary fetters.

in Wikipedia

So, if your creative enough to unleash previously unknown aspects of preception of the mind, you're being psychedelic.

The most brave and original creators are definetly psychedelic imo
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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 16:22
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So how can you explain the feelings that the sounds make behind your ears?



that would be your serotonin hitting..
Gopendragon
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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 17:30
psychedelia is everywhere around nature,shapes,colors,sounds,microcosmic life... and sweet smells,makes psychedelia alive in each moment we breath listen and see...feed the sensors of your sensetions with psychedelic feelings, beautifull visions,and sweet melodic trippy sounds..           ~~~~~~~namaskar~~~~~~~~~
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phobium
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Posted : Feb 3, 2006 20:13
I agree. There is no such thing as "psychedelic music" since psychedelia is subjective.           ________________________
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Anogenic
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Posted : Feb 4, 2006 00:26
Music is psychedelic so therefore you are right, there shouldn't be such a term as "psychedelic music" as that's what music is anyway.           «They who dream by day are cognizant of many things which escape those who dream only by night.»
Nobita
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Posted : Feb 4, 2006 00:42
There are degrees though. Compare Celine Dion to Pink-Floyd. My view is that although music in itself is psychedelic, some music is made just to stir up the conventional mind in conventional ways.           Row row row your boats gently down the stream; merrily merrily merrily merrily life is but a dream.
sure_smoke_alot
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Posted : Feb 4, 2006 07:16
as phobium said it's subjective
i can find mozart psycedelic but some may disagree

maybe u can say music is jus a tool dat ne psycedelic person can use to unleash his creativeness or psychedelicness


the rain is pouring if ur jar is upright u ca fill it wid water if it's upside down den

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DETOX
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Posted : Feb 4, 2006 09:59
Psychedelic Music does indeed exist (and i dont refer only to psy trance,actually i dont refer much to it) but not everyone is able to understand it and experience it the proper way.

Thats why other people listen to Pink Floyd in their bedroom with the lights out and manage to create and experience a psychedelic experience in their head while other people need a variety of drugs in order to force or help (call it as you like) their brain to reach a psychedelic state while listening to Skazi or GMS or whatever.

The music is there,its just a matter of how strong personality and brain each one of us has and how good his perception on music is.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
intrees
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Posted : Feb 4, 2006 16:11

Well I agree with you DETOX, Psychedelic music does exists, it exists because artists have experienced and interpreted their hallucinogenic experiences and tried to translate those feelings into the music. Simon Posford once said, 'I write music that sounds like you have taken a lot of drugs' and most people would agree that his music is 'psychedelic' . However, this does not mean you have to ram loads of LSD down your face to write psychedelic tunes, the drugs are merely tools to enable you to explore your mind.

Some people would agree that Syd Barret was one of the pioneers of psychedelic music, he created music that was influenced by his experiences with hallucinogens, even though it may not sound like Skazi(!):)

I also think that if you find classical music psychedelic, then yes it probably is beacuse from your subjective point of view your experiences with LSD or whatever may connect with that particular piece of music. Recent studies have shown that when Mozart is played to children at school their performance increases noticeably, and this is maybe due to the 'mind expanding' properties of the music. So it makes sense that some people find Mozart psychedelic .

Anyway, I think we worry far too much about whether a particular tune is psychedelic or not; the main thing is if we enjoy it



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Weird guy in a pink hat
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Posted : Feb 4, 2006 18:33
If all music is psychedelic then how come you don’t see any Mozart’s gatherings?

Besides if you do a little bit of research you'll find out, that the psychedelic music was used way before our time by shamans, to go to a condition that is called "trance", some kind of disconnection of the mind from the physical world...A trip...

There are those elements of "psychedelic" music, which trigger some of the hidden and unexplained by the science spots of our brain, which produces a weird reaction on our perception of reality and imagination...

As I see it, for some of the people that reaction, that feeling is just an overload, which they're brain just incapable to handle, and the others... Well the others love that feeling and live their lives in desperate attempts to reach higher levels of it, and eventually who knows? The secrets of universe are hidden within us...
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Yuli
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Posted : Feb 5, 2006 23:56
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On 2006-02-04 18:33, Weird guy in a pink hat wrote:

Besides if you do a little bit of research you'll find out, that the psychedelic music was used way before our time by shamans, to go to a condition that is called "trance", some kind of disconnection of the mind from the physical world...



Not exact this is. Shamans, if they would use music ( and they did ) would use tribal repetititive rhythms. From the simple reason that they had no synths to create psy sounds back than, but they did have all kind of percussion elements and drumming elemets. In the old days ppl went to state of trance thru drumming sessions. That what ppl today do many times in Rainbow gatherings and other tribal gatherings throughout the globe.

About the question...

Psychedelia is so personal, that is very hard to discuss it anymore since everyone sees something else, its like a Babylon tower that one cannot really communicate with the other - many trippers would know this, when they try to explain the other about their amazing revelations and unless he had the same hit and is in the same mood then usually no one will understand a word from a wonderful experience u just had.           A man with a "master plan" is often a woman
gaspard
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Posted : Feb 6, 2006 00:08
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On 2006-02-04 16:11, intrees wrote:

Simon Posford once said, 'I write music that sounds like you have taken a lot of drugs' and most people would agree that his music is 'psychedelic' . However, this does not mean you have to ram loads of LSD down your face to write psychedelic tunes, the drugs are merely tools to enable you to explore your mind.





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Weird guy in a pink hat
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Posted : Feb 6, 2006 01:42
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Psychedelia is so personal, that is very hard to discuss it anymore since everyone sees something else, its like a Babylon tower that one cannot really communicate with the other - many trippers would know this, when they try to explain the other about their amazing revelations and unless he had the same hit and is in the same mood then usually no one will understand a word from a wonderful experience u just had.



Agree, its more spiritual than physical experience, and with spiritual stuff its nearly imposible to explain to someone what you'we been through...
The experience itself is based on the experiencer experience...           {0_o}-{0_o}-{0_o}-{0_o}-{0_o}-{0_o}-{0_o}-{0_o}-{0_o}-{0_o}-{0_o}-{0_o}-
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