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kriz
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KundaliniRising
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Posted : May 28, 2008 18:30
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On 2008-05-27 21:56, psycho-italiano wrote:
Well, I think the instructions and the guide lines should be written in a very simple English.
& without digging into too much info about spirituality and dimensions etc…
Coz it may confuse young psy people, Instead of helping them.
Anyway, from what I saw in many parites, there are even 16 – 18 years kids that know how to handle very deep psychedelic states of mind easier than some 30+ dudes.
Each person that survive bad trip at least 1 time, and learned the lesson… then he may remember it forever. And can handle any bad trip.
If someone is running in a party, it doesn’t mean he is under a bad trip  , but its for sure a good thing to check if all is good with him.
Some people may stand like there is nothing wrong with them, and actually they are out of their buddies without knowing what the hell they are passing to, then getting into schizophrenic mode.
but they may have their control back, then will ask people in the party about this thing and iam sure that they will find someone that will help them (at the end we are all good people)…..
so you can’t check if everyone is fine in a party that contains 5000 people…
but again, if you suspect that something wrong with somebody, then its for sure the best thing you do, if you talk to him/her and see if he is under control and feels fine.
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I remember my self, before 8 years having the first and last most bad heavy psychedelic trip…. All the universe became transparent…and there were only bad creatures, and skeletons alive….it was very ugly and scary horror trip…the temperature of my body raised tell I saw my self melting….then I had a feeling that iam crazy, actually , its funny to talk about it now coz it doesn’t scare me any more… the opposite, that dimension is scare of me today, hehe…
Then I thought that I knew how a crazy person feels, then I felt very sorry about all those crazy people I was seeing on the streets, and in the same time about me with more scary feeling and horror, i thought, that’s it..iam finished… but I didn’t give up…. Despite all that worst trip, I could catch a very good rasta-man, and asked him for a help…..i told him what I am passing to….
Then he told me a few things about spirituality and taught me how to control my imaginations…it was very quick and easy coz he retuned me to my sanity….he could connect to my brain and being me, he guided me very well  , a true master!
Since then, I had a lot of deeper psychedelic experiences….and all if them are good, but I still remember what is a bad trip and how to get into the lower astral plane…but I don’t do it, coz its not healthy… shit, no chicks there ) only ugly images…
So the only and one good tip for new diggers is:
being closed to friends, especially those whom you love, you should be all with eye contact, while being into some heavy psychedelic state of mind.
Coz if you ever will have a bad trip, no matter how it looks like, then when you see someone you love, you are RELAXED !!! then you are back to your self and get full control.
and it doesn’t matter how much you prepare your ass with books about spirituality, energies, etc…
being with friend that keep eye on you is the most safe thing on the world.
And much more better if your friends are experienced.
But! Never ever think that being with friend will give you a guarantee 100% that you will be safe, so don't exaggerate with psychedelics, and make it step by step, levels, without jumping or checking your limits, you will lose then very quickly!!! Coz you will never know what will happen, coz you are new!!! remmber that we are only students of the universe...not the teachers! we may fail somewhere...so we must train by steps!
but I can give you a guarantee for this: if you don’t touch any psychedelic stuff, and not listening to cheesy music (such as full on) then you will always stay safe
peace
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Very honestly explained,
To add my bit, even pets can keep your trip in control.
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Ganapati
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Posted : May 28, 2008 19:37
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On 2008-05-28 12:17, kriz wrote:
Its ofcurse very important
that you are in good mental state, if not lay off it.
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I think that is the main point when u take psychedelics...
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Soul Kontakt
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Posted : May 28, 2008 23:21
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I think the best thing is not to worry about any shit be free and let your mind fly when you take psychedelics or even listen to psychedelic! Just be yourself, from my experience one of the worst cases is when you have to face your ego, all of us have one and not all of us know it! The trip enhances your senses gets your innerself out which then has full contact with the ego (then happens the bad trip) at this moment the ego is crushed and you then can see the light! You are in the light and floating in a wonderful world of colours...Now at this point you are free to wonder what a beautiful life it is, how beautiful the nature is, how perfect! The music gives you images, follow them in your head it's wonderful, feelings of happiness and togetherness fill you up in an ecstatic yet controlled state of mind. Emails of conscious messages envelope you brain, this is it man now you know it...After this life is very beautiful, learn to experience the good and bad both of them teach you lessons you will never forget, life is short so make the best out of it. It's not how you look but it's what you do that counts. Material world dies with time, nature is your friend and family...Laughing is the best medicine
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"42"
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Posted : May 29, 2008 00:12
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Great topic!
Do you guys know any good documentary works on psychedelics?
And I mean ones with no censorship...
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BrainLizzard
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On 2008-05-28 12:17, kriz wrote:
Months to stop seeing trails ? Take 1/4 ? I take one hit and then dose
more, if its weak even more in first hit.. Its ofcurse very important
that you are in good mental state, if not lay off it.
Then you when you come down you are down, no more trails or anything
I would advise people to get used to psychdelics with god friends
first, then you can do it alone at partys/festivals etc..
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I'm sorry ,I wasn't referring towards tripping, I was talking about a shaman ride.Multiple thumb prints on the raw.Shaman doses aren't in 1/4's unless your talking about 1/4 of a Hoof, which would be in the neighborhood of about 250,000 doses.
When tripping I agree the ego is something to face. 3 basic egos that everyone has are:
(1)Child
(2)Adult
(3)Parental
No,... parental doesn't mean you must be a parent.It leans more towards nurturing.Depending on how developed these egos are they will determine your trip.So, if your 18 or so, chill out and let your brain
grow even more before you sign out.
In the indigenous world the shaman ride happens at the becoming of age which is set by the tribe. To get to that level in the modern world you must first strip yourself
of 2000 years of conditioning, this is where the "bad trip" arrives which is only a movie and can be short or long.This is where your good choice of friends come in and they should get you to your grounding spot which should of been made before the train took off. Some festivals have a sanctuary which is a good place if no grounding spot is around. If you get caught in a loop then lets hope you picked good friends..Within this loop your friends need to find you before the loop starts over again and if they are timing the loop they can prevent your bad trip from getting worse and so on and on....
In most cases of taking a true shaman dose
you will skip all the modern mind bad stuff.why? ... your gone... out of this world.. The hard part is finding your body again and having your brain 100% functional again..
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Nectarios
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Posted : May 29, 2008 10:28
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On 2008-05-27 18:33:26, Jedi_knight wrote:
There must be some kind of INITIATION before entering these realms...
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There is, you open your mouth, neck a couple of tabs and voila.
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : May 29, 2008 11:00
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On 2008-05-29 10:28, pipe&slippers wrote:
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On 2008-05-27 18:33:26, Jedi_knight wrote:
There must be some kind of INITIATION before entering these realms...
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There is, you open your mouth, neck a couple of tabs and voila.
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EXACTLY THE OPPOSITE... :-(
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Nectarios
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Posted : May 30, 2008 13:37
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Not in my case and pretty much everyone I know that has had a go at tripping. Its a very simple process from my experience. You go to a party, you and your mates are having a great time, you feel like doing some liquid, have a great ride across the rings of saturn and then back again.
Shamans, guidance and deep spiritual talk is of no real consequence in a process that is so personal and "hands on" if you know what I mean.
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xrust
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Posted : May 30, 2008 13:44
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On 2008-05-30 13:37, pipe&slippers wrote:
Not in my case and pretty much everyone I know that has had a go at tripping. Its a very simple process from my experience. You go to a party, you and your mates are having a great time, you feel like doing some liquid, have a great ride across the rings of saturn and then back again.
Shamans, guidance and deep spiritual talk is of no real consequence in a process that is so personal and "hands on" if you know what I mean.
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though tripping is something very unpredictable and not easy to be defined and explained,i tend to agree with pipe%slippers.
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mk47
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Posted : May 30, 2008 14:08
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^yup , he just nailed it good .. endostori
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : May 30, 2008 15:32
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On 2008-05-30 13:37, pipe&slippers wrote:
Not in my case and pretty much everyone I know that has had a go at tripping. Its a very simple process from my experience. You go to a party, you and your mates are having a great time, you feel like doing some liquid, have a great ride across the rings of saturn and then back again.
Shamans, guidance and deep spiritual talk is of no real consequence in a process that is so personal and "hands on" if you know what I mean.
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Yes you have a point but this is the best case scenario(great time, good friends, everything ok).
This topic is also about the worst case scenario: Not the best friends, bad triping, mental blocks e.t.c.
It's very helpful to consider all the cases because from my experience i have seen a lot of people unable to handle the psychedelic experience so easy as you describe.
Of course it has to do also with the character of each person.
Some people never care about the invisible things and some people care too much about them.
There are people who "travel" and "wander"
and the are people who only enjoy it and they are not going anywhere farther.
Anyway all i want to say is that the psychedelic experience is not a game.
IT IS A REAL TEST FOR EVERYONE.
This topic is also about the people who think a little bit more than others when they are in a higher state of conscience.
And it's about people who use the psychedelic experience to find and explore their innerself.
And also for people who care about the others...
So if you are only for joy and laugh it is sure that all these things are a little bit strange for you.
Nevermind!
Keep enjoying...!
Keep laughing...!
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deeplydisturbed
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Posted : May 30, 2008 16:08
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On 2008-05-30 15:32, Jedi_knight wrote:
Yes you have a point but this is the best case scenario(great time, good friends, everything ok).
This topic is also about the worst case scenario: Not the best friends, bad triping, mental blocks e.t.c.
It's very helpful to consider all the cases because from my experience i have seen a lot of people unable to handle the psychedelic experience so easy as you describe.
Of course it has to do also with the character of each person.
Some people never care about the invisible things and some people care too much about them.
There are people who "travel" and "wander"
and the are people who only enjoy it and they are not going anywhere farther.
Anyway all i want to say is that the psychedelic experience is not a game.
IT IS A REAL TEST FOR EVERYONE.
This topic is also about the people who think a little bit more than others when they are in a higher state of conscience.
And it's about people who use the psychedelic experience to find and explore their innerself.
And also for people who care about the others...
So if you are only for joy and laugh it is sure that all these things are a little bit strange for you.
Nevermind!
Keep enjoying...!
Keep laughing...!
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true spot!! psychedelics are better with the music turned off! music focuses our energies in one direction, for a deeper journey, its always better to:
1. have no music
2. be in the great outdoors
3. be alone
IMHO
~what lies before us and what lies beyond us is tiny as compared to what lies within us~ |
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Ellon
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Posted : May 30, 2008 19:15
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deeplydisturbed
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Posted : May 30, 2008 20:45
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On 2008-05-30 16:08, deeplydisturbed wrote:
true spot!! psychedelics are better with the music turned off! music focuses our energies in one direction, for a deeper journey, its always better to:
1. have no music
2. be in the great outdoors
3. be alone
IMHO
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Alone in a process of initiation? Dont think its good advise....
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sorry, i was referring to jedi knights reply to pipe&slippers post...should have been more specific
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