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traveller
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 13:10
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Okay so I've got what, less than 10 names out of like a thousand? That's definitely not the most of them. To tell the truth I've never though much where all the artists are coming from. I guess quite a few new and younger ones are pretty much like 100% psytrance if you know what I mean while the older ones come from all the scenes out there, not any particular one. That's what I've thought anyways, but do feel free to prove me wrong 
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 13:13
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Okay so I've got what, less than 10 names out of like a thousand?
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You asked for a few, didnt you? 
Besides.. psytrance started with Goa in Goa.. Right? And Goa contained what? Yes hippes that enjoyed what music? yes rock.
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traveller
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 13:20
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Or acid techno..
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 13:30
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On 2004-12-07 13:20, traveller wrote:
Or acid techno..
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No no no.. Or yes yes yes.. agreed!
But i'm talking about before the age of "techno" The time when a guitar was psychedelic
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djparanormal
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 13:47
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now this is a fact nobody disagrees right..
if the ancestors who started goa/psy music were rockers, who moved on to electronic music or psy..
we can conclude rock as a major influence right..
atleast thats wht i feel
also rockers and trancers are more like two brothers, having the same mother, as mentioned above, our ancestors who started psy were rockers before they got into psy..
*(my own point of view, please dont argue guys, just post related comments)
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traveller
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 13:52
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Well I already posted mine but you chose to ignore it so here it comes again. I always thought people in Goa listened to all kinds of electronic music, like acid techno for example. I think we've actually got a few members here who were there when it happened so just wait for one to pop in and tell how it really was. I belive Mr. Search could reveal something as well..
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 14:00
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On 2004-12-07 13:52, traveller wrote:
Well I already posted mine but you chose to ignore it so here it comes again. I always thought people in Goa listened to all kinds of electronic music, like acid techno for example. I think we've actually got a few members here who were there when it happened so just wait for one to pop in and tell how it really was. I belive Mr. Search could reveal something as well..
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We are talking about the hippies that moved to Goa Traveller.. dont ignore us! I said yes Traveller I agree..
but think further back in time. Before the electronica scene kicked in
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also rockers and trancers are more like two brothers, having the same mother
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Yes I agree djparanormal.. But did you know that Rap/hip-hop is also rocks brother? hehe.. makes you think hu?
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Pointy
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 14:14
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On 2004-12-07 13:47, djparanormal wrote:
also rockers and trancers are more like two brothers, having the same mother
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Hm, maybe that's true for "the younger generation" in here.
From all I know people who are into Rock usually dislike electronic music, because it is not made with "real" instruments.
All my friends/mates that like Rock are not into psytrance at all, on the contrary dislike it.
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Spindrift
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 14:14
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.. psytrance started with Goa in Goa.. Right? And Goa contained what? Yes hippes that enjoyed what music? yes rock.
now this is a fact nobody disagrees right..
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Totally disagree.
Indeed there was quite a few of the hippies that did not like that they started to play electronic music instead of rock at the parties in goa.
So it was more a shizm between the rock fans and the new electronic music than a fact that goa trance would be sprining from rock music,
Sure you can trace some of the inspiration back to some rock, but it was for sure not the strongest influence.
Anyway, whats the point?
There is many different producer that liked many different styles of music before they got in to trance.
To call rock the mother of trance is only looking at a very narrow spectrum of where the inspiration comes from.
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traveller
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 14:24
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We are talking about the hippies that moved to Goa Traveller.. dont ignore us! I said yes Traveller I agree..
but think further back in time. Before the electronica scene kicked in
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Well I was actually talking to mr paranormal there. But yeah before electronic music there was no electronic music But do you think bands like Quintensence (Raja Ram's hippy band) could be classified as Rock? Granted I haven't heard a single tune off them but from a gut feeling I'd say it's definetly not rock.. not in the traditional sense atleast..
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 14:27
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Rock is a BIG gender.. So the answer would be yes! Its a kind of rock i guess. Psychedelic rock with influences from the east? Just guessing my self here!
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 14:43
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IMO it feels like we still like the agressivness but we're just "grew over" the gloomy teenageres phase in our life, and started being a bit more happy and positive...
totally back that .,,
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djparanormal
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 15:11
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All my friends/mates that like Rock are not into psytrance at all, on the contrary dislike it. |
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i agree with whoever said rockers might not like psy or electronic music, now thats just a matter of choice.. i aint talking abt those people..
i am talking abt those who used to rock, then experimented with modern machinery and technology and created electronic music particularly psy trance..
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yeah thats my point, i didnt say rocks the only influence,
only the fact that the psy culture and rock culture are quite similar, not exact but similar..
and not to make any points, just wanted to share some feeling and thoughts.. and get to know wht others feel abt this..
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 15:18
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From all I know people who are into Rock usually dislike electronic music, because it is not made with "real" instruments.
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Now why would you/they say that? It all depends on what kinda rock you play/listen to imo. You got metal artists like "Fear Factory" who published a great electronica mix album of their own tunes. You got lots of electronica influenses and elements in rock since the young 80's ...
And today.. almost all rock music has electronica elements in it with "real" instruments. 
Electronica is the future and is blending in with all music genders.. I mean ALL.
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Posted : Dec 7, 2004 15:47
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I am not argueing, that people that produce trance music get influenced by rock'n'roll, or that there is lot's of rock, that uses electronic means nowadays..
I was referring to "rock and psytrance being like brothers". I am afraid, but from my experience I can say that it is like this.
The Rock lovers I know hate psytrance and the argument about "real" instruments is a very common one and you can even find it in here, beeing continued in the hardware/software discussions.
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