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Problems with Com.Pact, please help
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nobody_3
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 00:23
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Btw I see label people stating that the reason why they haven't paid the artist royalties is because the artists haven't send them any invoices...
My dear friends that is the worse excuse I have ever heard... You know very well that all contracts legally bind YOU the labels to insure that the artists get a valid Royalty statement every 6 months + 90 days. A statement that clearly make sure to tell the artists to send an invoice to the label of the total amount of royalty presented in the statement. If you don't send the artists these statements (and believe me many labels never do that) then you're in breach of the contract and can be held reliable in a court of law chosen out by the artist! Of course if the artist never send you a invoice after recieval of the statment then it's the artist own fault! The question remain how many labels actually care to contact the artists and tell them that they have to send the invoice? My experience tell me that not many labels even care to send a statement... I have many many times had to contact the labels myself to get my statements.... Point taken?
It would be very nice to hear from other both new and established artists to hear what they have experienced. I am sure their stories will shock you. |
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 00:26
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im just trying to make this a better place, no need for more bullshitting!
peace out!
A
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nobody_3
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 00:29
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Well if it's bullshit that's needed then I am all behind it... We can't always stand behind this psydo kindness and pretend everything's ok... sorry but that wont work in the real world.
Again I am not blaming any labels or representatives from labels in this forum but merely expressing my opinon and sharing my knowledge and experience. |
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nobody4
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 10:31
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Lame excuse? for a legal matter?
We issued the check for Herbal 2 months ago, the money is ready for payment and believe me mate, its easier to just pay the check and be done with it than getting all this shit to mess with.
About the reports - this is an internal paper that cannot be disclosed outside the label/distribution company and there is no mention of sending such paper out of the label. The artist can get the general sales figures and the amount of money he deserves, and acording to that he should issue the invoice. Any requests for clarifications or more details are welcome and will be answered as best as we can.
its the same as a worker asking the personel manager of his firm to give clarifications on his salary if he thinks something is incorrect - he will not, however get any internal information on the company incomes etc'.
And Elysium, is it the labels fault that artists dont know about proper business management before they dive in the industry? should be hold open seminars to anyone who is releasing a track on one of our CDs?
Its a good habit to ask for information, and believe me, we are always ready to give all the information about the process of licensing, releasing or any other related issue.
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nobody_3
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 12:11
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Read my post again Helen I think you missunderstood it.... and btw why so defensive? I was not attacking com.pact or talking about Herbal.
But it strike me as very odd that you say this:
"About the reports - this is an internal paper that cannot be disclosed outside the label/distribution company and there is no mention of sending such paper out of the label. The artist can get the general sales figures and the amount of money he deserves, and acording to that he should issue the invoice"
Where was I talking about a report? I was talking about a Royalty Statement. If you don't know what that is I suggest you find out about it as soon as possible. By law all record labels have to send this information to their artists no matter if it's artists with a album or an artists on a compilation.
And to your information I can tell you that every internal peace of paper concerning sales figures ect. have to be shown to the artist on his/her written request. I am not sure how much you know of the actual law concerned running a record label but it do strike me that you dont know that much..... sorry it's not an atempt to put you down..just an observation... And be sure all these laws are also valid in Israel!
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nobody_3
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 12:22
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Somehow I also dont like your label attitude I'll quote you:
"And Elysium, is it the labels fault that artists dont know about proper business management before they dive in the industry? should be hold open seminars to anyone who is releasing a track on one of our CDs?"
No it's not the labels fault but a label should in my opinion be aware of that new artists don't know much about the business and be as helpful as possible to make sure that the new artists have understood both the contract and all other issues involved in the "co-operation" between the label and the artists. Is it so hard to make sure that the artist understand the issue about the invoices vs. royalty statements?
If you feel it's such a problem to inform artists about their rights and go around with the attitude you have shown in the above quote then I feel sorry for your labels artists... I can only hope that not all of the com.pact crew feel the same as you..... Sorry but I don't understand your attitude and the nessesarity or you to defend yourself all the time. None of my post was directed toward com.pact... The fact that you defend yourself teh way you do makes me wonder... I look forward to see if com.pact will send me a statment once they have relased a remix of one of my old tracks... |
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nobody4
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 12:26
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yeah, I think we are mixing issues here. I refered to the annual report given to the label from the distribution, which includes sales and revenues figures from all the releases the label sold through the dist', and this doesn't concern a specific artist on a specific release. The artist is entitled to receive a report from the label about the sales of the release he is a part of, no more.
The is the point of my reply,
regards,
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nobody_3
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 12:29
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Yes but where did we ever talk about that anual report helen? We were talking about royalty statements and invoices.... I think it's you that mix up the issue here  |
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nobody4
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 12:50
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I'm not going to start haggling with frustrated artists over this forum about semantics, just trying to clarify things for the audience. The point was that Mr.Herbal's money is waiting for him in the label, and he will get it with a proper invoice.
Elysium, If you have an issue, PM me.
A
and BTW, B-E-I-Z, check Perplex's new posts in this forum, to what email address he referes, and please verify your accusations before you state them on a public forum. this is (I believe, I'm not a lawyer) called Slander, and can have legal implications (not a threat mate, just general knowledge).
We hope to continue serving the trance community and artists faithfuly, like always:
T.cohen
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nobody_3
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 12:53
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I don't have an issue with you helen. don't worry |
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B-E-I-Z
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 14:06
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Helen, be my guest to sue me 
I just wrote what i saw and if perplex change it so it was wrong what he wrote !
Rasta
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nobody4
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 14:20
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dont you ppl read???
I said its not a threat, and by no means I want to pick a fight with you (as you can see for yourself, our hands are full with other silly cases of misunderstandings and false claims).
this is the last one,
be good ye all,
A
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Jason (LyTe)
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 14:51
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Chill out. this has become a mud-slinging contest, and the rules were broken a long time ago. Ok, an important issue was risen (on oh-so many threads with oh-so many artists and Oh-so many lables). let's cut the bullshit - let the artist and the lable get their own quid quo pro in private. there's no need for this laundermat trash talk here, is it? more-so than people not directly involved in said matter...
"We Do Not Allways See Things As They Are. We See Things As We Are" -Ancient Chinese Proverb
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Drope
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 18:58
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Well Jason, at least it´s not fullon vs prog or share vs not share anymore  |
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nobody_3
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Posted : Oct 9, 2003 19:05
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Again Jason.... If a record label fuck their artists then I am all behind people going public with it in forum's like this.... It's one of the ways to make sure that artist stay away from those labels...
And again again.... I am not accusing com.pact of anything here.
Hope it's finally clear now? |
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