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theoblcrew
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 19:05
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you re right about smashing stuff, i agree. (that's not what i meant with 'freedom in general'!)
But PLEASE tell me if you(or anyone reading this post) actually KNOW a guy that goes to a party to smash stuff (on a regular basis, not the electric universe incident).
The only possibility i can think of is that someone took something that made them aggressive.. This has NOTHING to do with the poly-party ideology!!!
Also, there are many reports (not only in poly ) of paid people smashing stuff (provokatsia). The asylum is an 'open' issue these days, so "8 random people randomly smashing stuff" looks more like provokatsia to me and i hope you agree  |
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uforica025
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 19:54
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1. i believe that there are some stupid guys, that they do such things, thinking that this way can be big anarchists, or just for their fun.
2. If this all things is a provokatsia as u said, this is more sad to be happen, but leaving them destroy everything in their pass, is harm for the whole scene and the free parties at uni.
why just one time the organizers didn't went to stop them, or be prepare to do something as this happens all the time there?
3. As they are just a bunch of persons doing such things and the most of ppl (200-300-400 persons) go there to have fun,
is so difficult just one time to kick them out or prevent them to destroy?
No, but no one wants to involve on this, 'cause he thinks that non of his business,
but if someone break his car or his head, then he will be his business and after he will write about it to forums, crying for the situation, and/or for the organizers who didn't have some security...
how fake and pathetic we became...
where is the unity we believe??
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theoblcrew
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 21:47
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Uforica025, you have right in what you say, but in a polytechneioupoli of many square kilometers it's impossible to keep an eye on every cm, given that you are in the party.. if sthing happens near the party area, then it will probably 'resolve itself'. in any other case it's irrelevant with the party..
ps: provokatsia have much more to do with political parties and their youth, than with the psytrance scene..
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Xtra Vibes
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 22:49
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xexexexe some people they don't stop with nothing.... if one person is slave of the money
gives he soul for so me euros....
you know what i mean....
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donald
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 23:44
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On 2008-02-26 14:51, MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr wrote:
cose mabe they can save u after some 1 gets hert and then u all get blamed for what will happen....cose u see if some 1 dies there all of u are to take the blame 100%
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re moonsun plaka kanis tora sorry for the greeks alla einai astio na epikalise tetia pragmata gia na kanis to kosmo na mi pigaini sti pol/poli kai naerxete sta parti sou.or you are so worry about the human life then the others organizers?i was in your party with ticon at the worst and most dangerous place in athens sto trito ipogio enos koladikou.(i love kolobara)
i dont like the party in universities because of the crowd but you have to accept and detox also that music dosent belong to anyone....
i respect what you have already offer at the scene but dont try to spread(??)fear......
imarton!!!!
...nothing personal.......
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virava
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Posted : Feb 27, 2008 03:08
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thumbz up against terrorism!
if it was like that we would have to be horrified about going to parties in clubs, and never go to any of them, with the incidents we had experienced there..
the uni campus, is far much safer by facts. -_-_-_-_-_-_
www.myspace.com/viktoronmyspace <= mySpace-artist link
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MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records
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Posted : Feb 27, 2008 03:13
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no 1 said dont go and no 1 will say that or can stop it my friend ,but is something bad happens 1st it will be a shame 2 what ever the problem mite be 2 it will leave a bad stygma on trance and i dont know why all is about clubs and politenupoli this has nothing to do with the club area has to do with safety 1 of the people 2 of the univerity,mabe not all trance lovers go there with the mood to party that is my hole dawn piot from the start
who can stop people that go there for ther eown funny ideas mabe to destroy or hit people, hope all is meli gala as u all post against me and nothing happens cose till know uv had some cansolations from parties,many damages,people been beat up and stole,
and please dont tell me i lie on these,no 1 is trying to make people stop going,but 1 day parties there will stop u all know this ,why wait till they stop in a bad way ,think about what i saying after even if u dont liek going to parties ,other will want to go.........i realy dont care club parties u dont make money ,for me honestly i would do techno or house if i wanted to make money from parties,i love this scene from 15 i go to parties and still go.i think that says something mabe that i love this music,i just see to many coplains about that place and its a shame to see a scene close on a bad happening which i hope by god it never happens,
as u also know iv done parties there in politenupoli but after i saw damages and people coplaining about difrent problems i avoded it....sorry if u feel that i protect clubs and dont like the concept i love free parties i make in forests each summer something not nice posting about,any way best of luck
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gutter
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Posted : Feb 27, 2008 10:42
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Posted by : uforica025
Posted on : 2008-02-26 19:54
3. As they are just a bunch of persons doing such things and the most of ppl (200-300-400 persons) go there to have fun,
is so difficult just one time to kick them out or prevent them to destroy?
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1.000.000 DOLLAR QUESTION
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theoblcrew
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Posted : Feb 27, 2008 10:44
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either you get sthing out of club parties (...) or lobotomised.. (who can stop people that go there for ther eown funny ideas mabe to destroy or hit people)(but 1 day parties there will stop u all know this ,why wait till they stop in a bad way):/
ase pou we have an american satellite ready to fall on our heads!!
DONT'T GO TO POLY_PARTIES!!! GO INDOOR!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!
(or as Stan Smith from american dad, epis.1: "today we have terror alert orange wich means something might go down somewhere, somehow at somepoint or place, so we have to keep our eyes open.)
ps: indoor parties didn't stop with 1 death/week ante month, what makes you think the outdoors will?(knock wood na poume..)
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Void Network
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Posted : Feb 27, 2008 19:48
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VOID NETWORK
(Theory,Utopia,Empathy,Ephemeral Arts)
http://voidnetwork.blogspot.com
contact,participation:
voidinterational@gmail.com
Dear friends,
From 1990 that we made the first free rave
parties and underground festivals until now there are existing commercial organizers and people with political-governmental or financial interests that they try to describe this parties/festivals as “second class”, as problematic and dangerous, as “destruction for the scene or for the universities or for the democratic asylum” and “not real parties”or "not real arts". The reason for this logic to appear again and again is obvious: there are a lot of money in the “club market” and somehow this market has to be protected as a myth and as a concept.There is also great power in the governing of culture and "art market" of this society and the conservatives don't want to loose control by just simply allowing the new to appear... For us this was never a problem (anyway this is very old story…and most of our old “enemies” that was spreading all this bad rumors are to their houses now…Rest in Peace…).
We appreciate and we observe the “club culture” ‘cause many people seem to like it, many beautiful nights happened in clubs also and “club culture”, "art centers", "galleries" e.t.c. can play a progressive role also according to their own limitations (bouzouki culture club owners that collect all our money for themselves making bullshit mountains with them, security macho staff, super ego party organizers, crap music and sound for 30euro, 10euro for a bottle of water, impossible to get drunk with you pocket money and freak out paranoia if you take any psychedelic substance…anyway…why not?...clubs have to continue existing also…if the people continue pay and enjoy...and sometimes is even good…!) .
But we know for good that the Underground Free Events is the real collective platform for the expression of arts and ideas, we know that all art scenes in the world is based on the underground free scene for existing, evolving , manifest and test new styles, new artists and new trends, we know for good that the underground scene will never finish and will become better and better in the future (as we know also that the underground is anyway the field that will appear all interesting trends which in the near future capitalism will use for making money again and again in “luxury” clubs and “high life” business).All these things they getting rotten anyway again and again in a society dead in apathy and general stupidity.
This is no problem…we know it from the 60’s until now…
The efforts of the underground has to be always to offer better artistic quality, new styles and much more beautiful atmosphere than the “commercial scene” and to manifest original force from the heart and not from the pocket for to gather thousands of people having great time, coming to the Utopian Atmosphere, getting new ideas and transform their selves according to their needs and wishes!
There are some things that we like and some things that we don’t like in the parties of Polutexnioupoli but we don’t want to play the role of the “old one” for to judge and criticize the efforts of the underground teems. We are sure that everyone tries his best to offer the best according to his aesthetic criterion and his powers (keep your good efforts alive!)
But we will use this opportunity to clarify some things we want in the future to exist and get better and some things we want to try all together to make them a bad memory for the underground events.
WHAT WE WANT:
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WE WANT GROUPS OF CREATIVE FRIENDS THAT THEY LOVE AND TRUST EACH OTHER, COMPANIES OF FRIENDS TO FIGHT AGAINST CAPITALISTIC COMPANIES WITH THE POWER OF THEIR DREAMS AND THEIR WISHES. WITH OUR SMALL POWERS WE ARE BUILDING UTOPIA! WE WANT THE PARTIES TO BE ORGANIZED BY ARTISTS AND FRIENDS AND NOT BY INVESTORS, WE WANT THE FESTIVALS TO BE ORGANIZED BY COMPANIES OF FRIENDS AND NOT BY MANAGERS, TO BE ORGANIZED FOR FUN AND NOT FOR MONEY, NOBODY TO GET PAID FOR TO PLAY OR FOR HELPING IN THE BAR OR FOR THE PRODUCTION OR FOR MAKING THE FLYER DESIGN OR FOR GIVING THE FLYERS AROUND. WE WANT TO SEE THE OPEN PARTICIPATORY ATTITUDE AND THE FREE OPEN DISTRIBUTION OF MYSPACE.COM TO APPEAR ALIVE IN SKIN AND BONES IN THE STREETS, THE SQUARES, THE UNIVERSITIES AND THE ABOUNDED URBAN BUILDINGS OF THE CITIES! WE WANT EVERYBODY THAT IS ORGANIZING THE EVENT TO COME THERE WITH EMPTY POCKETS AND GOING AWAY WITH EMPTY POCKETS (that’s how Void Network survived for all those years/that’s why we are still friends to each other/ that’s why we get better and better/WHEN WE HAVE ANY SMALL “PROFIT” FROM THE PARTY WE KEEP IT IN A GENERAL BOX AND WE SPEND IT TO THE NEXT EVENT SO WE BECOME BETTER AND BETTER…nobody gets paid cause all of it is based on completely different intention like pleasure, erotic love and friendship for example…or like the dream of a global revolution and liberation from the prison of modern metropolitan death culture!
It's simple and it works good! It is chaotic non employed/non profit economics/ It’s extra cool space out collective life! (AND THIS IS THE MOST POWERFUL EXPLOSIVES THAT THE UNDERGROUND IS HIDING NOW)
WE WANT ALSO THE PEOPLE HAVING THE ABILITY TO DO NOT BE VICTIMS AND UNDERSTAND WHAT IS UNDERGROUND AND WHAT IS NOT!
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WE WANT THE PEOPLE TO SECURE THEIR OWN EXISTENCE THERE, TO GET THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THEIR OWN ACTIONS AND TO PROTECT THE PLACE, THE AUTONOMOUS ZONE AND ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE LIKE THEIR OWN BEST FRIENDS. WE WANT TO SEE PURE LOVE, PEOPLE TO EXPRESS THEIR OPEN HEARTED LOVE TO EACH OTHER, TO SEE ALL PEOPLE HELPING CLEANING THE PLACE GOOD AND BE CAREFUL ALL NIGHT LONG FOR NOTHING BAD TO HAPPEN, TO HELP ALL TOGETHER THE FIGHTS OR THE DESTRUCTIONS TO STOP LIKE THE PARTY HAPPENING IN THEIR OWN HOUSE…WE WANT TO SEE PURE LOVE, EROTIC COUPLES MAKING LOVE OPENLY, NAKED PEOPLE FEEL FREE TO DANCE WITH EVERYBODY, CRAZY HAPPY GIRLS AND BOYS HAVING THE BEST NIGHT OF THEIR LIFE…WE WANT TO SEE A COLLECTIVE AMAZING SPACE-OUT EXPERIENCE TO HAPPEN FROM ALL TO ALL!.WE WANT TO BE TRANSFORMED THROUGH THIS PARTIES …AND WE WANT TO CHANGE FOR GOOD!
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WE WANT TO SEE PEOPLE USING ALL PSYCHEDELIC SUBSTANCES OR ALCOHOL WITH GREAT CARE AND GREAT RESPECT TO THEIR SELF AND TO THE OTHERS, WE DON’T LIKE DRUG DEALERS AND DRUG BUSINESS, WE DON’T LIKE MACHO MAFIA ATTITUDE, WE DON’T LIKE DRUG CULTURE, WE DON’T LIKE FREAK OUT MANIACS, WE DON’T LIKE DRUNK PEOPLE FIGHTS, THIEVES AND PARANOIA, WE DON’T LIKE COCAINE, WE DON’T LIKE HEROIN!
WE WANT TO SEE ALL PEOPLE PARTICIPATE AND HELP FOR ALL THESE TO NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN! and the only way for this to never happen again it is not fights and misery…IS YOUR HELP, GOOD HEART HAPPINESS, PURE LOVE, OPEN AWARENESS AND COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS!
THESE FOR NOW….AS FOR THOSE THEY SAY THAT THE FREE PARTIES IN THE UNIVERSITIES OF GREECE WILL END SOON THEY HAVE TO KNOW THAT FOR THE LAST 18 YEARS WE FIGHT WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE THAT THEY WANT TO FIGHT TOGETHER IN OUR SIDE….AND WE ARE WINNING!
WE FIGHT FOR “OPEN PUBLIC UNIVERSITY ASYLUM FOR ALL PEOPLE”, FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION, DEMONSTRATION AND ENTHOUSIASTIC FESTIVITY, FREEDOM OF OPEN PUBLIC CROWD ASSEMBLY, FREEDOM OF PUBLIC SPACE!… FREEDOM FOR PUBLIC, SOCIAL, POLITICAL AND ARTISTIC EVENTS, FREEDOM FOR DIFFERENCE, FOR MINORITY, FOR EXTREME CULTURES, FREEDOM FOR ALL OF US THE CRAZY, THE ROMANTICS,THE MANIC DEPRESSIVES, THE OUTOPIANS, THE LIBERTARIANS, THE AUTONOMISTS, THE ANARCHISTS, THE PSYCHEDELIC FREAKS, THE MUTANTS, THE CAYS AND LESBIANS, THE LOVERS,THE STREET BEGGARS, THE FREE CAMPERS, THE REFUGES, THE IMMIGRANTS, THE SPACE-OUT TRAVELERS, THE WANDERERS, THE EXPLORERS OF THE UNKNOWN FUTURE!
CHANGE YOUR MIND! THE SPRING IS COMING!
AND YOU HAVE TO BE READY…
WE HAVE TO MAKE IT ALL TOGETHER HAPPENS AND THIS TIME WILL BE BETTER THAN EVER…
PEOPLE MAKE THE PARTY! POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
VOID NETWORK
(Theory,Utopia,Empathy,Ephemeral Arts)
http://voidnetwork.blogspot.com
contact,participation:
voidinterational@gmail.com
for people interested reading also the reasons that we make the Outopian Atmospeheres, the rave parties and the underground festivals:
http://voidnetwork.blogspot.com/2007/01/why-are-we-making-temporary-autonomous.html
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theoblcrew
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Posted : Feb 27, 2008 23:18
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i go with the previous post..
although i get sleepy early in the night..(too early to pick up trash in the morning..sorry:))
Anyway, well said void network..
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 28, 2008 00:03
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PEOPLE MAKE THE PARTY! POWER TO THE PEOPLE!
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Z.XPERIMENT
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smorphelia8
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Posted : Mar 6, 2008 16:13
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last weekend..at darkpsysin event..all i saw was A LOT of people having a killer time...and YES..ALL THOSE PEOPLE WERE at least 20EURO HEAVIER and im sure most were thinking..."who the FxCk would rather be in a club right now..???" ...great place..great artists perform there at times.. and there are no classes on saturday night, nor sunday morning.... and if 5 idiots brake 3 doors and burn 6 trashcans, i dont think that any students's future or education will be in danger....
forza uni events...
thanx darkpsysin and thanx to those performers that dont have a thumb up their ass and present their AMAZING music in an event like last week'S...
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d1m1tr1
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