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MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 09:07
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Just wonderering something and had to open this topic
1. is it fair for politenupoli events to happen
when promoters pay money to make events with international names and pay so much money to rent clubs and all so people can see club events with live acts ane dj sets.
2. is politenupoli worth cose is free as consept of money cose each time people destroy the place there damages happen on the
school were some kids want to learn and have a future tomorow.
3. politenupoli is now 1 of the most know
place that events have been happening the last 4-5 years , its a big stamp on psytrance saying come on guy we want u to come in 1 day to destroy the name totaly.
4.iv played there also done 2 parties with kgb and mabe play in future
but my piont is do 4-5 events there a years max with more safty and more orginizted things with the aprovment of every 1 there and do a nice concept ,each week i sfor a very little time u know 1 of 10 if will be locked cant go for ever and then never again ul see the place.
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andonis
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 12:15
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Anarchy in Polytexneioupolh.
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Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 13:08
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Just an opinion :
1. Do you think that the events that are organized in a club do worth the money that are payed from the people and from the organizers?
2. There are not damages happenig all the time and when they happen there are far way from the place of the party and from people that have no connection with the specific party.
3.The parties at poly are some of the most favorites and most beloved events and they HELPED the psy scene very much because they are true psychedelic and underground and not commercial .
4. Do you realy care if it will be locked when you don't want the parties to take place there?
5.I agree that poly is not the wright place but is there any other?
The best solution is to find a place where every euro you spend goes only for the specific party because a lot of money goes to people who don't have any connection with the psy scene...
For example not ex-mpouzoukia or kolobara but a warehouse....
A place only for psychedelic events...
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psykofrenik
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 13:18
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1. is it fair? what are you trying to say? that when somebody books a club and anounces a party, nobody else is allowed to make a party on the same day? everybody was complaining some time ago that there are not many parties in athens, and now you are complaining that there are too much?
of course it's a bit stupid when there are 2 or 3 parties on the same day, and the next weekend there is no party at all. but when there is party every weekend and somebody wants to make a party at the uni, you cannot complain that it's not fair for you. it's a big city with hundreds of party-people some prefer clubs, some prefer uni. it's better when we have a choice
2. the "free" concept of politechniopoli is not just about the money. of course the money part is also very important, some people just don't have, or don't want to pay expensive entrance and ridiculously expensive drinks, just to see a big international name.
and a big name does not necessarily mean better music. many times the local dj's play better music than the big name everybody goes to the party for.
the free concept of the universities is also about no unfriendly big security guys scaring the people, more space to dance, and just the idea that you are in a place with freedom of expression.
and i don't see where people make damage to the place every time like you say. i've been to parties there many times, and i never see anybody making any damage.
3.i think everybody who makes parties there and most people who go to the parties respect the place, and i don't think anybody would do anything stupid to destroy the name or the place.
4.yes it would be better if parties there were more organized, sometimes the soundsystem is not good, sometimes no lights or deco, but you don't have to do only 4-5 parties a year to be more organized, you can still do party every week and improve the quality, if the organizers take a bit more time or if more people help.
i don't think anybody would do anything stupid to destroy the place, and if we just respect the place and help with the cleaning at the end of the party, then nobody will have the right to stop us from partying there |
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Kostaxx
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 13:40
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if ze organization iz good , make partiez even at the top of a sky scraper.
zzzzz.... |
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MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 14:15
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u see psykofrenik i never said it s not fair for 2 parties
but see that 2 years ago and today there is 30 % less people in parties do u get why? cose 2 parties same night is no piont when there not to many people
cose they get fed up and sick after going to a club with a good name and seeing 200 people cose the free event has 400 there , this i smy piont for me if u cannot not understand my piont and ure stuck with the idea of free
its stupid because o 1 reason. international names
u see 80% even more in this planet always lik eto hear
new artists in styles they like or also older styles
if u take this away to Satisfy ure own desires and this
a party with 10 friends there is good ,but in general u destory the system , which is a rule of clubing
cose as i said internation is alway happing and will always happen, plus if u tell me there bring guest in politenupoli now, i dont think this will ne each week
,and again why make it there when some people bring 2-3 even more names in big clubs, it relay stupid mabe will have 300 people and u 400 but u just made a big step in those 300 people he had leaving parties cose they see its not worth seeing shit like this in there country
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AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 14:25
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wicc@
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 14:56
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polytehnupoli
the best place 2paty
my spacecraft can land there!
also free&open air as all parties shud be
if an organizer is willing to commit more time
to arrange bar, sound,facilities
and not only deco...
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even the smallest light, sHinEs In The DarKnEss...
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orange
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 15:05
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everybody a party is in politexnioupoli and some people break things around or in it than automatically the party stops being a free one... cos we all pay for it in our taxes...!
for damage restoration..
new police equipement..
and hospital/doctors for the wounded... its more like a war than a "free and underground psychedelic event"
i prefer paying to go to a club.. having my drink.. listening to the music i choose to listen.. having good sound (most of the times) dont worrie for my car/head to be broken.
and as far as i can see only dark parties are taking place in universities(not all but most).... maybe the "underground" isnt adopted by greek club owners just yet..?
as for the 2 parties at the same night maybe is a wake up call for the promoters..? u know if u offer competitive prices with good clubs and nice sound and most important good music/artist u will have more people from tha cake of 400 that goes to the universities.
although i know athens psy scene is shrinked the last few years i also know tha are alot more than 400 psy people. http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
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Gopendragon
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 15:25
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POLITECHNIOUPOLY
POLI-TECH-IOU-POLY
If it is summer what better for a party on the woods,and if the organizers respect nature,I mean clean the place from each one of the trashes,then trance and ecology makes the difference..
but if it is winter better stay at home...
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After the End,a new Begining startS.. |
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wicc@
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 15:25
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truth is you cannot listen to underground sound in a club
clubs are made for other sounds
full on and extacy and dance
if u want to get trippy dancing iz better in a safe place
where no cars around and yopu can be out fresh air
or walk towards that tree over there
the trippy hugz with trees are the best energy channels
IMO
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gutter
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 16:04
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having a drink , being cool & relaxed
listening to music without booming in your ears
BEING COOL without sweating like a pig
..but not listening to commercial projects or artists (not always)
is what polytechnoupoli & organizers can offer
and of course its not about money
i personally dont think that 20-25 euros are to much for a commercial artist , its great
Everyone remembers +SODA & CITY+
when you had to pay 40 and 50 euros , thats steal & crazy (but always full???)
Maybe the fact that clubs here in Athens are shit , many ppl want to have a chill evening so of course they prefer polytechnoupoli
If we were all enough mages and everybody loved the scene & respect the efforts of the organizers , and due to the fact that clubs are shit , every party could be organized at the UNI with commercial names and a fee , five - ten euros , why not paying at the UNI
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What does it mean free??
thats also free , independent from club owners & the system of nightlife
Someone will say that you cant put a fee at polytechnoupoli
Thats why i say "if we were enough mages"
there was an argument on another older topic about violence & mpaxala
Think that has stopped , at least for now , i hope for ever
you cant have always the fear of some bastard that will make troubles
Anyway this topic seems more like an organizer agreement-disagreement topic
Why ppl go there instead of coming here ? & stuff like this
People who want to go somewhere will go that wont never change
Why do we have to beg stupid club owners & mafiozous to hear some beautiful music ,, f**k 'em
& pleeeease love the music NOT the drugs |
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wicc@
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 16:08
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NATURE+MUSIC=all the money!
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even the smallest light, ShInes In The Darkness..
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orange
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 16:23
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On 2008-02-12 15:25, wicc@ wrote:
truth is you cannot listen to underground sound in a club
clubs are made for other sounds
full on and extacy and dance
if u want to get trippy dancing iz better in a safe place
where no cars around and yopu can be out fresh air
or walk towards that tree over there
the trippy hugz with trees are the best energy channels
IMO
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even the smallest light, ShInEs In The DarkNesS..
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ok tell that to alsos and battery that started all psytrance/house/techno/drum % bass in athens and im sure there are equivalents in salonika.
that was the real undergound... there is no more virginity in music anymore (parthenogenesi) there is no underground its just music for less listeners.
http://www.landmark-recordings.com/
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d1m1tr1
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Posted : Feb 12, 2008 16:47
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excuse me Nick but having participate as u said in parties there, and having played, or going to play, i dont think u are the adequate person to open this discussion.
im also not for parties every week there, if the party is not made with your heart, coz thats what WE had done there (i speak for my ex-team KGB and for Paranormal Research our ex-allies, always watching the place, for troubles or anything else and Cleaning after...)
now i'm sorry, but club entrances are too expensive, drinks too, and about ANTI-parties, even we had more of them CLUB vs CLUB so thats not a right point.
For example, Electro DJ fees are much more expensive, and entrances are lower than psy-trance (also comparing to anywhere in Europe)
No comment about trafficated alcohol in clubs, and prices. If prices were lower, ppl would drink more. now u will say its the club owners decision, but still...
make better deals...
about shitty soundsytems... happens to club also
about shitty soundsystems in the university, its made with money from orgs pocket, so their call
now for ex. we stopped parties there, when we had to coz the asylum law was under conversation
im not for FREQUENT parties there, but they surely have to be some, but by adequate people who know how to make one/...
now if u ask me, we cant criticize so much those free parties, when u see that others did for example the Legalize it festival over there...
About damages, in outdoor events never, some in older indoor events and minor ones...
anyway, this concept suits well the uni., being free, and contributing to the scene
now if u want to avoid double events, all promoters, be in communication, and arrange yourselves, as we did in the past
dont blame free events for not having ppl in your clubs... pffffff
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