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kapsis

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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 00:59
let me remind you people the full of teargas and cops fighting "safety" some time ago from void and the "safety" each year at pedion tou arews with molotofs almost every year...
this is the safety you bounce to?

To get permission in these places is not that easy if not impossible.. almost never nobody gets permission... even many times natural high or vn (the legalize for example where they participated...)
And its not that easy like give some money and have the security of a venue.you also, couldnt wouuldt be able to control the safety of a place like uni. Putting some gorillas at the door who treat the people like burned out freaks and many times i have seen ugly behaviors for no reason ,from them
"incapable" are people that prefer the open air free zone parties instead of small places with no place to dance(like lavabore...), expensive ,with gorillas over their head in case they "smoke" smthing and dont want to earn a salary in 1 night

I sent to a big name e-mail and make a *cash* contract.go to the clubowner and ask if i could *pay* to have the club for 1 night.*pay* people to give flyers and afises...giving money=pro

\and for the unisefthat wrote smone... xaxaxa look who's talking "i like to make parties, i dont care about the mo"...cmon
Kostaxx


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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 01:06
Quote:

On 2008-02-26 00:13, DETOX wrote:
Kostaxx last Saturdays party was cancelled in the last moment and the party with Nomad you talk about was also announced as cancelled the night of the event and was rescheudled an hour later at different location.

If you call these people professionals then we got different opinion on what the word professional means.

Someone who announces parties with the note in the end that "we will let you know where and if this party will happen" cannot be a professional.

And please dont tell me what situations i know and what i dont,i am available to discuss everything you like here but dont tell what i can say and what i cant,respect me like i respect you.


"If you call these people professionals" never said that.

"respect me like i respect you" never missrespeacted you.

"we will let you know where and if this party will happen". thats the situations that you dont know about.
And ask the teams who do parties that you support.
Because as you say you re against polyparties but VOID Net an natural are capable polypartie makers.

HAHAHA,you say something now which is totally different with something you say later on.

you put the psyscene into war in every way you can.

So i cant discuss anymore with you because im not a war lover.
Keep up the good job saying to others that they dont do their job well.
DETOX
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 02:18
Quote:

On 2008-02-26 01:06, Kostaxx wrote:
And ask the teams who do parties that you support.
Because as you say you re against polyparties but VOID Net an natural are capable polypartie makers.

HAHAHA,you say something now which is totally different with something you say later on.



Kostaxx i was,i am and i will always be against trance parties in the university area especially with the frequency that these happen in the last couple of years.This is my personal position on the matter that i have said in this forum countless times through the years.

The fact that i believe that Void Network and Natural High are the only teams capable of organising a good and safe party in the university area doesnt mean that i also support them in doing so,i disagree on the subject with my friend Iraklis Mindphaser every time we meet but i still believe that he is capable of organising a good and safe event there,the same with a friend of mine from Void Network.

Hope my position is crystal clear to you now

As about putting the psyscene into war well that wouldnt be wise for me to do since i have invested a lot of time,efforts and money in the trance scene in Greece by doing a lot of things from parties and getting involved with festivals to running a label and providing bookings and help to a lot of party organisations all around the country.Its a pleasure for me to see the psy scene flourish in Greece but also it is my responsibility to point out things that i consider bad when i see them and having every weekend free parties in the university area by people who cant at least guarantee a good and safe party is for me a bad thing for many many reasons and i will always say my opinion loud about that,after all i am just one person so if i say stupid things then noone will pay attention to them and noone will bother answering back to me,so far though the answers are quiet a lot both good and bad which means that my words are at least interesting which is a good sign

P.S Dear Kapsis what happened at the Electric Universe event organised by Void Network was not something connected with the party and wasnt caused by people from the party,i was there and i know.By the way if you think that organising a party and being a profesional relies just on having money and paying the right people then you obviously have no clue in organising a party,try to book a serious club in Athens and tell me if you can book it even with lots of cash in your pocket,go to Venue or Luv and offer them double rent than they usually charge for more commercial events and ask them to rent you the place for a trance party,there is no way for you to manage to book such a place even with double money than the usual rent,well some people managed to book those places and not by using their money,its called respect and good connections which you cant buy with money,you cant even book some artists no matter how much money you offer to them except ofcourse if you offer them ridiculus high ammounts which you wont be able to earn back from your party.Money helps a lot but cant solve all of your party organising problems.Organising a profesional party is much more complicated than just money.          Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
virava


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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 02:37
Quote:

On 2008-02-26 02:18, DETOX wrote:
when i see them and having every weekend free parties in the university area by people who cant at least guarantee a good and safe party is for me a bad thing for many many reasons



i agree with detox on that. on the positive side for me means: we have to care about protecting the place and a way for this to happen in my personal opinion is to print papers announcing this concept to the people and spread to the majority of them.

also, irresponsible parties could not destroy the scene, but the law about 'free thoughts spread' that rules in the university (a part of the political asylum).
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DETOX
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 03:24
Exactly Virava,making free parties just for having fun is more than welcome but since we leave in a country where both the parties and the asylum in universities are both not welcome by the authorities then the organisers have to show to the people that these parties have a higher meaning than they show,in a few words less parties,more carefully organised,better protected and most of all WITH A CONCEPT.

I said in the past that i am against any legalisation of drugs in our country but i had to congratulate Void Network for their Legalise event simply because they believe in something and they are promoting their belief through actions and events,i dont aggree with their ideas but the way they promote these ideas is perfectly fine about me and i had to say a big bravo to them about that.

At the moment the majority of parties taking place in the university area have absolutely no concept and are badly organised and therefore the university authorities are much more strict than they used to be some years ago and if this situation continues then i am afraid that soon enough even further measures will be taken/voted in order not to only eliminate free events in the universities but probably eliminate other actions too that so far were possible under the asylum protection.You see some things work like a domino and when the first piece falls then the other pieces follow.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
gutter
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 11:34
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Posted by : DETOX
Posted on : 2008-02-26 03:24
At the moment the majority of parties taking place in the university area have absolutely no concept




im not a promoter r organizer
therefore i cant understand what kind of concept(s) is(are) followed when making parties in ratholes (even with good artists)
we cant f**ng breathe in there , dont u understand that , how can i discuss or dance or have a nice time when im stick upon each other at 50C temperature
WITH A CONCEPT??

I respect human life the same as u do DETOX
-kapsis & other ppl do the same thing
--- they do think & share same values

I think its is time to see that its is not only you (or other promoters) that have a concept in life

BUT NOT ALL THE KOLOPAIDA WHO EAT DRUGS LIKE CANDIES SHARE THE SAME VALUES

therefore "concept" is a problem - that lies on the people who participate generally the events of psychedelic scene in Greece(??)

and not on the place or some people who are doing parties for 10 years or newcomers ...

its a matter of education - concept
greek psychedelic scene is still full of "kangouria" - with no c.

at least i can say those people kangoures
which is the true
cause i dont have to worry/care bout not coming to my parties


Quote:
--further measures will be taken/voted in order not to only eliminate free events in the universities but probably eliminate other actions too that so far were possible under the asylum protection.



you speak bout measures like you are the one how decides
i dont think the asylum will ever break

IF NO SOME OTHER KWLOPAIDA DONT BREAK THINGS

OR THROW STONES & MOLOTOFs LIKE IN Electric universe - btw i was there too and saw the war at oulof palme the time these things were happening

and i dont have to continue the argument
we had the other time

about who where those guys and what they represent - OR why they left exarcheia
to come to Electric Universe ???????
hhahahaha -- come on
and i wont name them anarchists --
but its true sad that they name themselfs like that ... again dont give a shit about what they are ...

its a free place for educated people with concept for life , for dreamers , for movements , for ideas , for everyone
especially for "malakes"

so we do whaT the ones who fear do??
dont make parties ,, for the fear of these mpaxalakides ..

I dont think this is free minded concept

everyone has his own perspective of seeing things

Athens is one of the biggest cities in Europe
has only three - four (the most) organizers
and still things cant work out



*Loud Mansion-PulseClub-Lavabore -- ratholes
(i know these are the only ones - but unfortunately - suck , when more that 70 ppl are in there)

Jedi_knight
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 13:58
I had a very bad experience at POLI. :

http://forum.isratrance.com/friday-night-at-poli/
          ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
kapsis

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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 14:08
dtox wrote "i believe that Void Network and Natural High are the only teams capable of organising a good and safe party in the university area"


http://forum.isratrance.com/friday-night-at-poli/

pantou iparxei enas mi8os
MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records

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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 14:51
ool i see all this week what me and detox said about safety
and orginizinging isuess has not gone to waist
if this all is true this saturday
mabe world war 3 will happen best of luck then...
if u need mabe 8 security guards as u call them freaks in other topics dont hesite to send us a email if the not busy protecting people in other clubs they mite have time for coffie in the morning....lol
cose mabe they can save u after some 1 gets hert and then u all get blamed for what will happen....cose u see if some 1 dies there all of u are to take the blame 100%
gutter
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 15:25
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Posted by : MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Posted on : 2008-02-26 14:51

" dont hesite to send us a email if the not busy protecting people in other clubs "




MOOnSUN AkA MICHAEL NIGHT

THE PROTECTOR OF THE BURNOUTS

http://www.riekmann.prohosting.com/magazin/knight_rider/david.jpg


gutter
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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 15:27
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theoblcrew


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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 17:11
ok, i want to say to:

::Detox:: man, wtf is a concept? 'butterflies' could be one, 'third world famine' another etc. but for greek psytrance parties it's different: WE'RE NOT F***ING UK here, and when people go to a party EVERY weekend (polytechneioupoli or not) the most usual concepts are 'dance', 'drugs', 'having a good time' etc. either you like it or not.
Also, if you have 2 parties per week with different concepts it's a f***ing carnival all year long.
So what's left is poor organising. Imo it's only the sound(soundsystem & perhaps a big name) that is better in a club, everything else (pricing, clean air, freedom to do/go something/somewhere, respect as individual and many others) is better in a poly-party.
::moonsun:: Now as for security issues...
If you go to a poly-party you are responsible for your own actions/safety. if 20 people come to take the soundsystem away, they will be stopped by the 100(minimum) people who are attending the party.
As for what you say about safety and the asylum, i hope you say it to calm(kiss ass) the authorities who might be in this forum(because your arguments sound like a shitty prytanhs' ones).. get real.. it's about free traffic of ideas and thoughts and freedom in general(eg freedom to party, music is a brain thing mostly)(<--this for detox).
also, wtf whas that again about people GETTING HURT and DYING you said??? a)you argue like a child b)what you said looked like a facking threat!!!(if someone gets hit tomorrow you all will be to blame for not coming to our paid parties or because you didn't hire security...)AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!(sorry, i had to laugh..)

thats almost it

if you held GOOD parties, you would have full clubs every weekend..
if you make money out of a party you can't blame free parties. it's called manipulation
if can't make money out of sthing else, it's not other organisers' fault. BE COMPETITIVE!it's the market law
to gutter: ultralol!! you got good sense of humor..
if you go by the law you will pay the consequence..
(the last one was wise man talking..ahahahahaha..)
MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records

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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 17:22
by the way gutter
ure little quote
MOOnSUN AkA MICHAEL NIGHT

THE PROTECTOR OF THE BURNOUTS

i been around trance half or my life and respected the rules, plus its been part of my life in traveling working all around the area of trance, if u have a difrent opinion
about 1 topic u say ure opinion as i said dont insolt me
this is the 2 time uv done this, begging in a forum means u can put ure ideas of free will if some 1 has a difrent opinion,he can express it,but dont insolt some 1 cose he feel that his opinion is oposite from ures...
theoblcrew


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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 17:31
plus, if you want MONEY then psy is not the music to organise events.. even a dumbfuk can see why.. (people, druqs, etc)
uforica025
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Feb 26, 2008 18:18
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it's about free traffic of ideas and thoughts and freedom in general



???????

As i had said many times, i'm a follower of making free parties.

But as i see from the facts, most of u get wrong this issue about freedom...

Is freedom that " I like to break, destroy, smash everything, 'cause i want to and there is no one to prevent me"???

or, " i don't care what all the rest of ppl likes, i will destroy their night 'cause i like to" ????

Wrong idea u have about freedom and anarchy
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