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DETOX
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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 15:39
I know it happened and i know from whom it happened thats why i said "these so called organisers" which ofcourse it doesnt apply to Void Network           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
virava


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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 16:24
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On 2008-02-13 04:44, DETOX wrote:
Clubs are meant to hold music events and universities are meant to educate people,when a university and its asylum are being exploited from some people on a weekly basis to host parties WITH NO PERMISSION BY ANYONE (therefore the closed doors problems and the lack of electricity on many of these illegal parties) then something is obviously wrong.



universities are for the free transmission of thoughts.
psychedelic means mind manifest. how do you find that?

about legality: the team you co-operated with, that party with electric universe, organized and organizes illegal (as you describe them) parties. so you don t have the right to speak about permissions of the parties.

some of the parties though have permission, not all illegal as you want to describe them.

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YES the university people and some political groups inside the university have the right to host 4-5 events a year but having every weekend a party there from people that have never ever attended a lesson in any university at all then this is pure exploitation of the university area and whatever it represents and stands for.



every group of students (not only politicals) can have as many permissions a year as it wants, you are not the one who will judge this.

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For me the only group of people that has the right AND IS ABLE to organise trance parties inside the university area are the Void Network people who were actually the first (if i am not mistaken) who started making trance events inside universities and are the only ones who have the means and power to protect such an event in case something happens.



let me suppose that you have this opinion because you co-operated with VN that time?

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The rest of teams/people/organisers that make free parties inside the university area are 90% people that cant book a club to make their own events,are people who booked clubs in the past but failed to gain the support of the people and played music in front of 30-40 people and in general are people who care to make parties in order for themselves and their friends to play music because no party team in Athens is going to invite them to do so in a club party and because they cant on their own,or tried but failed,to organise a serious event with enough crowd.



all of the teams that have organised a party at a university have also organised in club and most of them continue to organise events in clubs too.

if you think they are all second class, you shouldn t have a problem, besides you had to like it.

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Jedi_knight
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Posts :  620
Posted : Feb 13, 2008 17:31
+100 @Virava
Truth said!!!!!

The real problem is not if the events at poli harms the psy-scene because this is totaly wrong and a lie .
The real problem is if the events at poli harms the education of the students or their student life generaly.
So I have a question:
Aren't there any students from POLI that join this forum?
What's their opinion about all this?
Do they like the psy parties or not?
Do they want to happen or not?
Do they have a problem?

I think their opinion is the only one that realy matters......
They must speak first......
(Maybe we have to start another topic with only the student's opinions.....)
          ---RealPsyLifeForRealPsyPeople---
electrojoseph82
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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 18:05
Quote:

On 2008-02-13 16:24, virava wrote:
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On 2008-02-13 04:44, DETOX wrote:
Clubs are meant to hold music events and universities are meant to educate people,when a university and its asylum are being exploited from some people on a weekly basis to host parties WITH NO PERMISSION BY ANYONE (therefore the closed doors problems and the lack of electricity on many of these illegal parties) then something is obviously wrong.



universities are for the free transmission of thoughts.
psychedelic means mind manifest. how do you find that?

about legality: the team you co-operated with, that party with electric universe, organized and organizes illegal (as you describe them) parties. so you don t have the right to speak about permissions of the parties.

some of the parties though have permission, not all illegal as you want to describe them.

Quote:

YES the university people and some political groups inside the university have the right to host 4-5 events a year but having every weekend a party there from people that have never ever attended a lesson in any university at all then this is pure exploitation of the university area and whatever it represents and stands for.



every group of students (not only politicals) can have as many permissions a year as it wants, you are not the one who will judge this.

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For me the only group of people that has the right AND IS ABLE to organise trance parties inside the university area are the Void Network people who were actually the first (if i am not mistaken) who started making trance events inside universities and are the only ones who have the means and power to protect such an event in case something happens.



let me suppose that you have this opinion because you co-operated with VN that time?

Quote:

The rest of teams/people/organisers that make free parties inside the university area are 90% people that cant book a club to make their own events,are people who booked clubs in the past but failed to gain the support of the people and played music in front of 30-40 people and in general are people who care to make parties in order for themselves and their friends to play music because no party team in Athens is going to invite them to do so in a club party and because they cant on their own,or tried but failed,to organise a serious event with enough crowd.



all of the teams that have organised a party at a university have also organised in club and most of them continue to organise events in clubs too.

if you think they are all second class, you shouldn t have a problem, besides you had to like it.

____________________________________

No offence but i have to share the facts and my opinion..



Yeah man , Bring it on.
Ultra Satisfied from your answers...You answered before i did.
You forgot to mention the classical old paroimia "sto spiti tou kremasmenou......".

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ritual_om
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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 18:39
i was a student in metsobio polutexneio till 2006.

i will analyse it more another moment.

what i can say now with certainty is that these parties contribute in totally overthrowing the asylum in the campus and generally in every university.

it is another claim for those involved in these procedures,that,if the asylum is banned,we will have total control of the campus' internal,meaning no gangs inside,no 'anarchists',no drugs,no festivities that lead to material damages...

it's just another brick in the wall...

i must point out that the quality of the studies as far as the sxientific part is concerned is,in no way,affected by those parties!

though,i have top admit that it is a perfect place for parties!
Liquid Soul


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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 18:54
I Dont know if it's right for the parties in poly....
But I Sure Know That Every Year That Passes its faraway better than the next one!
Older Times We Used to have parties at better location such as oinofoita , varubopi , ~~ALSOS~~. In the other hand the clubs is in a worse conticion we used to pay till 15e for the biggest names.. today we pay up to 25e to get into a hole and the worst of all the are no big names there! I think we should work all togethere and ask for the crowds opinion!
nick_InZoMNiAC

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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 19:24
cool ritual_om poia sxolh? I am studying there atm...
(btw you dont visit psynews.org anymore?)

diskOtek
Entek

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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 22:02
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On 2008-02-13 15:11, DETOX wrote:
But Politechnioupoly has an asylum so anyone can do whatever he likes there even with no permission from the university authorities.Too much democracy is bad sometimes unfortunately because some people cant understand the meaning and the limits of democracy.




this is exactly the argument of those wanting to abolish the asylum..

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DISKOTEK the number was just an example what i wanted to point out is that its not normal and healthy to host free events in the university 2-3 times a month,not only its not good but it also becomes boring because the essence of free parties looses its meaning,especially when there is no concept and nothing interesting to present in those parties except the organisers and their friends trying to prove to the people that they are djs.




if it's so uninteresting,people wouldn't prefer it then you(the promoter-generally speaking)wouldn't be posting here,because it wouldn't affect your ticket sales..am i wrong?

also,i guess many 'promoters' put their friends to pretend the djs in commercial parties.
so,what's the matter of doing it free of cost?
MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records

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Posted : Feb 13, 2008 23:26
1st of all in honesty yes it efects promoters 1 cose if a promoter has this each week no piont making in club
and as u all know politenupoli wont go on for ever.
and who told u people dont make money there and
make this parties to make from the bar, my friend i know all promoters in athens the cause of parties there u think is for the church of greece or something hehe
they dont pay club fee they put the cheapest sound they can find
and they put 2 euro a beer u think this goes to unisef
lol
other_reality
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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 01:06

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especially when there is no concept and nothing interesting to present in those parties except the organisers and their friends trying to prove to the people that they are djs....



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I am wondering whos club owner ass are you kissing?? Or you just party promoters kissing each others ass ??


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By the way especially me i dont need to lick anyones ass,i kick asses but i dont lick them


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...also,i guess many 'promoters' put their friends to pretend the djs in commercial parties....


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they dont pay club fee they put the cheapest sound they can find
and they put 2 euro a beer u think this goes to unisef



Some random lines from the thread for the time being...I intentionaly left them without the poster's names....
It's whats said that counts, and all that point to me that parties are becoming more and more poor and vibeless.

I mean WTF? you care about whether its a club or a free open area more than you care about the music ? No one has talked about how crappie the music is, or is it that all of you are satisfied....

And what about the crowd ? Are you happy with the vibes and atmosphere of all parties ?

Noone wants to pay 20/30/40e when you can go somewhere for free. But how many of you are happy with what you DO get with free parties (Void Network excepted, coz they do have something in their minds and do know how to organize)

In my opinion, this is a dead-end conversation. The one end wants to pay and have better "services" (regarding dj's, sound and crowd control), the other end couldn't care less and pay nothing.

On the other hand, in case you didn't notice, Psytrance is "underground" again. You don't go out and listen to the radios pumping Astral Projection, and you don't get flyers with top names every saturday. There are no top names these days anyway.

So free parties and underground events are more than natural to happen. And If it keeps something alive, than so be it.

Ofcourse, anyone who likes this music and has been following it for years (many years), and is crazy enough not to have abandoned it yet, would like to see a big-time event with huge soundsystems,lights and projectors, and be ready to pay for it as well.

So, I will conclude and say this. Free party lovers, supporters, "organizers-promoters-dj's", do your thing, but do it good. Okay, we know UNICEF aren't gettin the buck, but just do your thing good. Choose your dj's right, learn a bit about soundsystem installation and respect the people that attend your parties. Make them have fun, and they will come again. Respect the music above all, and the music will reward you and the people. (So simple, it's mainly the music, couldn't be any simpler....)

(ehmm hum HUm)... Big-time club promoters, do the same, bring quality names, dj's who can spin and make the vibe, choose venues other than sh^tholes, with proper installations and crew @ security, bar etc. The buck will be worth and people will stop whining about this and that.

Everyone will be happy, over and out
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nick_InZoMNiAC

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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 01:18
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On 2008-02-13 23:26, MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr wrote:
1st of all in honesty yes it efects promoters 1 cose if a promoter has this each week no piont making in club
and as u all know politenupoli wont go on for ever.
and who told u people dont make money there and
make this parties to make from the bar, my friend i know all promoters in athens the cause of parties there u think is for the church of greece or something hehe
they dont pay club fee they put the cheapest sound they can find
and they put 2 euro a beer u think this goes to unisef
lol




they don't sell many beers, most ppl are on acid & md ... ;P
And still, in LOUD club for example beer has 7 euros(!)... are you kidding me?
MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records

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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 01:25
in loud club u pay 7 years in a nice invierment with security tiolets seats projectors and glasses in and some times guest djs in politenupoli u pay in the cold
in old parking lot, i want to see if a fight startes and 20 -30 get into it who will help u ,or if they cut the electricty
during the party will u ask ure money back mabe??
or 1 more thing if some how 100 people come and steal
the sound system in fron of u,then call 100 and ask them to come and help u

any way what every 1 write u just quote on that u still dont get the piont,if something bad happens and some dies there or something and u see trance in the garbage again like 5 years ago when they stoped for 5 months then give me agood reason.
nick_InZoMNiAC

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Posts :  123
Posted : Feb 14, 2008 02:43
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any way what every 1 write u just quote on that u still dont get the piont,if something bad happens and some dies there or something and u see trance in the garbage again like 5 years ago when they stoped for 5 months then give me agood reason.



Well that could happen in a club too (overdosing etc)

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u ,or if they cut the electricty
during the party will u ask ure money back mabe??



Which money??! It's free event! On the other hand, i really DOUBT that if something happens in the club(like some dj's that were supposed to play dont play or sth like this) that money will be returned...

Sure you are right about fughts and such, but generally in the last parties i went there were no fights & it's up to the people to protect the place...

By the way, trance is in the garbage at the moment with very few exceptions ...! NON-psychedelic full-on music has invaded the biggest part of the scene, it's going more like pop-trance and good acts become less & less ...



And last but not least ...
Even if there's free party, IF someone makes a good party with good lineup and REASONABLE entrance I think the club will be full too
gutter
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Posted : Feb 14, 2008 10:45

people .. FUCK the drugs & overdoses
& start loving just tha music

polytechnoupoli is not a kavatza or an excuse for eating every shit thats around just because theres plenty of room --

brain damage without reason

music is for every day of our life & drugs for 3-4 times a year not the opposite

by the way if u remember there were 1 or 2 people deaths and was in +SODA not in free event (not an excuse - just a fact - but enough to fuck the scene)

and another one ..
Moonsun said bout people starting fights
Not break things - just fighting
- the black dot in the scene -

Thats the biggest kagouria of Greece
No psychedelic event represents fighting nowhere in the world
only in Greece are some kangoures who eat tripakia or XTC and put out their inner madness or stupidness or fears instead of mind expanding - feeling (someone must stpo selling to these ppl drugs)

wheres the supposed unity ??
virava


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Posts :  620
Posted : Feb 14, 2008 12:27
deaths used to occure every week in +Matic also under payed events. so the situation in polytechneioupoli seems -besides its free and everyone can come- more consciouss and lovefull.           -_-_-_-_-_-_

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