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Danni13371
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Posted : Jan 30, 2008 02:09
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Pleiadians - I.F.O. is an album made in 1997, released by Dragonfly Records.
This genre is Goa.
But ... Goa is a hinduistic + futuristic/astronomical genre of music.
Psychedelic is the same, just without the hinduistic stuff.
Now what my question is: When Pleiadians is a term of civilians living on The Pleiades (Seven Sisters), and they base ALL their albums and songs on this star-picture, then why is the genre GOA?!
1. It has no middle-eastern theme.
2. It doesn't include music from hinduism (you know what I mean).
3. It's all about some stars in the universe.
Please answer this for me. I'm 14, and I just got into this genre some months ago, so I might be unknowledged... |
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The Journey Man Project
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it's tripp trance music, it also is very psychedellic.
a lot of the early goa sounds aren't always Goa based as in full of Indian sounds and melodies. The idea of Goa is that it was the place where parties happned. It isn't the place which inspired th emusic. Certain producers were inspired, otheres just made psychedellic music.
open your mind in this genres, if you come in thinking everything is going to be asian/Indian based your up for a lot of dissapointment. Especially post 2000.
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Danni13371
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Posted : Jan 30, 2008 16:28
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On 2008-01-30 02:54, The Journey Man Project wrote:
it's tripp trance music, it also is very psychedellic.
a lot of the early goa sounds aren't always Goa based as in full of Indian sounds and melodies. The idea of Goa is that it was the place where parties happned. It isn't the place which inspired th emusic. Certain producers were inspired, otheres just made psychedellic music. |
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What's the difference between Goa and Psychedelic then?
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Anak
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Posted : Jan 30, 2008 21:01
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On 2008-01-30 16:28, Danni13371 wrote:
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On 2008-01-30 02:54, The Journey Man Project wrote:
it's tripp trance music, it also is very psychedellic.
a lot of the early goa sounds aren't always Goa based as in full of Indian sounds and melodies. The idea of Goa is that it was the place where parties happned. It isn't the place which inspired th emusic. Certain producers were inspired, otheres just made psychedellic music. |
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What's the difference between Goa and Psychedelic then?
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hi danni, noice to have ya here. fresh flesh is always welcome 
your question can't be answered downright satisfyingly, as it is a matter of view really. there are various different opinions on it. as i see it (attention! generalization ahead), goa is about huge walls of various layers of melodies and more simple yet very effective groove sections, while psytrance is more on the trippy side of things, with far less melodic layers, but more weirdo stuff, fx, acidic experimentations and such things.
with this in mind, i'd label IFO as goa trance indeed. getting yourself "Koxbox - Dragon Tales" might help you to distinguish. that's THE quintessence of psytrance in my book.
imo the oriental factor you mention hasn't got anything to do with that, and futuristic/astronomic references, for which i fell in love with the genre, are and have been used in the whole world of psychedelic music throughout all the ages. the theme or track names don't have anything to do with the style of music at all, although it applies very well.
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full_on
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Posted : Jan 31, 2008 01:09
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On 2006-01-22 06:56, full_on wrote (with some slight modifications):
IMO the terms goatrance and psytrance (psychedelic trance) in most sentences have the same meaning, except that some people sometimes use the term goatrance when refering to the very first psytrance tunes (specially the melodic tunes).
I think that if most goatrance tunes where released today they'd be called psytrance and possibly full on (just like Filteria is full on).
I think most tracks which were called goatrance and were played at Goa, not at the very begining, but just before it had its "big boom", would be today called full on or dark full on.
Astral Projection many more were making psytrance tunes which probably would be called full on if released today around 1995/1996.
The Muses Rapt released their classic Spiritual Healing in 1997. This track is pretty much full on, but if you search for it on Psyshop you'll fing they call it Goa Trance...
http://www.psyshop.com/shop/CDs/pho/pho1cd077.html
In another words, the main aspect that defines if something will be called full on (happy/melodic/morning, groovy/high-tech, dark/evil/night, tech-trance/technoish or whatever) today is the bpm, which is usually from 138 to 148. Some people may say that "Default Goa" (like Pleiadians) can be characterized by the presence of many melodic layers.
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The Journey Man Project
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Posted : Jan 31, 2008 05:53
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The Journey Man Project
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Posted : Jan 31, 2008 06:11
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I'd suggest to you that you do the following:
save money.
buy the following series of compilations:
Tantrance
Pulse - This Is Psychedellic Trance
Destination Goa
listen to all the cd's in those series... then you'll have a fair bit of history behind you... after that buy soem odern stuff (post 2000) and whine about how horrid the scene is today 
welcome to psytrance!
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The Journey Man Project
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Danni13371
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Posted : Feb 1, 2008 00:24
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On 2008-01-30 21:01, Anak wrote:
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On 2008-01-30 16:28, Danni13371 wrote:
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On 2008-01-30 02:54, The Journey Man Project wrote:
it's tripp trance music, it also is very psychedellic.
a lot of the early goa sounds aren't always Goa based as in full of Indian sounds and melodies. The idea of Goa is that it was the place where parties happned. It isn't the place which inspired th emusic. Certain producers were inspired, otheres just made psychedellic music. |
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What's the difference between Goa and Psychedelic then?
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hi danni, noice to have ya here. fresh flesh is always welcome
your question can't be answered downright satisfyingly, as it is a matter of view really. there are various different opinions on it. as i see it (attention! generalization ahead), goa is about huge walls of various layers of melodies and more simple yet very effective groove sections, while psytrance is more on the trippy side of things, with far less melodic layers, but more weirdo stuff, fx, acidic experimentations and such things.
with this in mind, i'd label IFO as goa trance indeed. getting yourself "Koxbox - Dragon Tales" might help you to distinguish. that's THE quintessence of psytrance in my book.
imo the oriental factor you mention hasn't got anything to do with that, and futuristic/astronomic references, for which i fell in love with the genre, are and have been used in the whole world of psychedelic music throughout all the ages. the theme or track names don't have anything to do with the style of music at all, although it applies very well.
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Okay so ... Goa trance is more like Psychedelic trance, with a more "symphonic" view?
It's hard to me to tell which is which, when someone says Psychedelic is the trippy genre, and another person says that Goa is the trippy genre. xD
And thanks. ^^
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Posted : Feb 1, 2008 13:09
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Well... actually both are trippy. But goa is like the "oldschool", that appeared "before" fullon did... |
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full_on
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Posted : Feb 6, 2008 20:33
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OK, I just arrived to crush the worms of this world with my light and wisdom.
First off, it is subjective, so IMO I can call it full on, even though I know it is different from the usual full on sounds. But just to make clear, in my interview with Filteria (which can be found here: http://www.fullonline.net/archives/2006/12/filteria.html ) I said:
Your music could be called "Goa with up-to-date production".
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Filteria is one of my favorite projects, and these days he's one of the few artists out there producing music that could be called "GOA trance".
However, on the Filteria - Heliopolis promotional text on Saikosounds (which you provided the link) it says:
So this is subjective... But one thing is for sure, when you send links to compare Filteria - Heliopolis to a Phonokol release from the later Psytisfaction series that just suggests your knowledge about full on is possibly restricted to non representative releases...
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Posted : Feb 7, 2008 00:41
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Actually it was me ho wrote "Heliopolis - greek for city of the sun - describes perfectly Filteria's music: Massive superpsychedelic full-on goa trance opening windows on enlightening journeys into the sun. "
and well, I understand what you mean with full on... You have 2 different definitions of it:
Full on => the typical kind of trance with typical sounds and clear climaxes
Full on => fast uptempo dance music...
Now I prefer to call it uptempo instead of full on, as otherwise we get this kind of disccusions  If I call Filteria uptempo goa trance, it is clearly labeled for everyone I hope
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