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psydubient

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Posts :  38
Posted : Jan 14, 2005 20:27
Please stop saying that you’re playing psychedelic music.
Please stop saying that you’re hearing psychedelic music.
Please stop saying that you’re organizing parties or festivals with psychedelic music.

Why?
Because all this thing in Greece with the progressive and full on stuff is not psychedelic!The hard and fast thing of full on is not psychedelic!And the remix of great rock songs is just stupid!And progressive!Pfff!It’s just boring and fast!Nothing more!Like fast progressive house!

What is psychedelic?
Psychedelic is the music based in all the music forms of the past.
Classical,rock,metal,reggae,jazz and other musics are mixed to make a psychedelic song.
Artists like Kraftwerk,Pink floyd,Eloy,Jean Michel Jare should be your guides to create psychedelic music.
Which artists are psychedelic?
Almost noone(or just 1or 2) of them who are coming every year in Greece!
Psychedelic Trance or (psychedelic electronic mucic better) is produced and played by:
Juno Reactor
Ozric Tentacles
Orbital
Infected Mushroom
Hallucinogen and the other guys in Twisted
Youth,Man with no name,the Dragonfly generally
Ubar Tmar
Tsuyoshi Suzuki
Uni
Rip Van Hippy
And of course are the people who are making excellent psychedelic ambient much more psychedelic than all the full on and progressive albums of this year.
Aes dana and all the ultimae records
Interchill records
Asura
Lsd records
Astralasia
Ott
And many many more.
Really I wish for an ambient festival…

Of course I forgot someone or more but I think that I gave you to understand for who I’m talking about.
For all this artists that they’ll never come at a greek party or festival or they came for one time and of course they won’t come again!
Why maybe Infected Mushroom won’t come to Greece this year?
Didn’t they make two excellent experimental psychedelic albums this year?
Why almost noone of the young people at the parties don’t know the Juno Reactor,Youth and others?

Finally please stop taking all this chemicals and stimulants drugs at the parties.
We can’t see your ugly faces at the morning!
Try natural and recreational substances if you want to take something anywise.

And a secret.If you want to find out if a song is psychedelic,just turn off your subwoofer,cut the bass and the beat and if you feel that what rests is not a boring thing,but something more,give it your attention.

Friendly to all the people who love psychedelic music.I don’t give a shit for the others as they don’t give for me.

yellow1


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Posts :  190
Posted : Jan 14, 2005 21:12
so if I understand correctly what you are saying, apart from these 10 names you mentioned, there is no psychedelic music produced today?ok....

P.S By the way, InfectedMushroom produced a very dissapointing album in my opinion and I dont care to hear them
DETOX
Moderator

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Posted : Jan 14, 2005 21:22
Can you also point us out who to vote on next elections?           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
**HoffMan**


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Posted : Jan 14, 2005 21:37
so you want to tell us that gms,talamasca,alien project,etnica etc. aren't produce psychedelic music??
as about infected the new album its to progressive to be psychedelic,
come in man be sirius,
you speak about juno reactor!!! the new album sucks man,
i agree with you about all this names but till 1998,
Tsuyoshi Suzuki ??? at this time he play techno music man,
maybe you aren't properly informed man
go and play with your old cds.....sorry mp3's
maybe at this time there are a lot of psychedelic stuff,i don't like all of them but it's psychedelic man,
get infos before speak           KAPOTE KATHOMOUNA STA AKRIANA BRAXAKIA,THYMAMAI POU
KATOURAGA TA OMORFA PSARAKIA
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Fat Data

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Posts :  1112
Posted : Jan 14, 2005 22:06
Tsuyoshi !!! LOL last time i gave my money to see him he was playing groovie techno house fuck man ! This aint psychedelic! Ofcourse if you're refering to his other project (jujuka) then that's a whole different story...
As for all the things you write down can't say you're totally wrong the part where you turn the subwoofer off especially got some good points there            Peace, Love, Death metal
andonis
IsraTrance Junior Member
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Posts :  901
Posted : Jan 14, 2005 22:23
In our days much psychedelic trance music is being released. Most of it is mediocre but you can also find many jewels. All the names you refer to are known ones. What about the new generation of producers? And also psychedelic is a matter of taste. It is up to you if you find a track psychedelic or not.
psydubient

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Posts :  38
Posted : Jan 14, 2005 22:43
At first I didn’t mention some producers only!
I mentioned some labels!Yes these labels produce high quality psychedelic music.
I agree about etnica and talamasca.
Detox you make me laugh!
First of all you are a promoter!And you always promoting parties and festivals that are disappointing!Kaiafas kaiafas kaiafas!(I was there,It sucks but I didn’t say a word)
The music that you promote is also disappointing.
I don’t vote because I don’t want so I can’t tell you what to vote!
But I hear much more kinds of music than you(yes sometimes through mp3) so I can say I am more openminded at that subject.
So if you want tell me what to vote and I”ll tell you what is psychedelic!
Yes the techno music of Suzuki,ubar tmar and Japanese artists is much more psychedelic than the Scandinavian progressive.
For the new Juno Reactor album I won’t say anything.Just try to hear it more times.
You said you didn’t like the infected album.But you didn’t say why.
Is it maybe difficult for your stomach?
I know I became agressive but really there is noone at this country bored to hear every weekend the same artists that some promoters want from us to hear?
Ok I agree,psychedelic is what you feel as psychedelic but it’s not normal this that happens to Greece to hear the same and the same again.
Also anyone can see that the progressive labels force the new artists to follow a path on how they create music.You hear something and you say this is from this label or this is from that.No surprises.I hate that!
The true psychedelic labels are doing always experiments with what they produce.They give freedom to the new artists to do what they want.And the old artists
Are just total insane to pass from one kind of music to the other just like that!Just magic!
That’s the difference.
Hope you have understand.I hate to write my opinion in English.I really can’t express exactly what I want to say.
psypunk
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  224
Posted : Jan 14, 2005 23:18
I total agree with you psydubient.
One should speak at last.
Juno Reactor ar far from anyone.
DETOX
Moderator

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Posted : Jan 14, 2005 23:50
Ok here we go again...

About Kaiafas you should complain to the organisers and not me,they are members of this forum you know.

You might think that the music that i promote from artists like Orion,Deedrah,Dino Psaras,Electric Universe and Wizzy Noise is dissapointing,thats fine about me,dont buy my labels cds and dont attend any lousy events that i might be involved to.This will make us both happy i guess.

How do you know what and how many kinds of music i am listening?Have you ever visit me home and listen to music together or browse my music library?I dont seem to know you so thats quite impossible i guess.So keep your judgements about other people,that you obviously dont know,for yourself cause its very silly to say to others 'hey i listen more kinds of music than you do so i am more open minded than you'.

And just to give you a clue of how wrong you are and how fast you rush to make judgements about others i will say to you that i love all the artists and labels that you mentioned so far except Infected Mushroom,Ubar Tmar and Rip Van Hippy,this now makes me more open minded?....

My irony in my first post was going towards your attitude and not your music taste,you can say what you want in better words and language without sounding like a psy guru or something.

In a few words try to be more serious and calm when you speak and try to avoid expressions like 'please stop saying you are that and that and that...'

P.S Since the Juno Reactor new album was mentioned i will say that i find it to be a masterpiece except maybe one or two tracks who sound really industrial to me,most of the stuff though is just magical.           Toodaloo Motherfuckers!!!!!
psydubient

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Posts :  38
Posted : Jan 15, 2005 00:30
That’s an acceptable answer.
You seem to be the moderator so you should be more careful with your answers.

You’re right I don’t know what do you hear but I know what you are promoting to the people to hear.

You wish as I do to have the opportunity to hear electric universe at kaiafas,this didn’t
happen as you remember.
Daddo was playing a dj set sitting down all the time without having a lot of fun.
But all this happened and I don’t care about them any more.

I’ll take back my judgements if I’ll see you involved in a different psychedelic event something less commercial but more free(from many things) for example.
As you said you don’t know me and so do I.
So I don’t have anything negative for you but also nothing positive.
So if you’ll do something different at the greek scene,something that never happened again you’ll have all my support.For now I’’ll ask sorry for my judgements without recipes.

And really tell me what else do you like to hear?
Or you worry that you will loose fans or customers?

Hope I didn’t become bad again but really I want a different party.
I wish for spring to come so the open air festivals take place.
At least the landscape is beautiful always!Wish music will follows!

soul_rebel


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Posts :  99
Posted : Jan 15, 2005 01:01
These is what we call psychedelic music!

http://www.el-horto.hu/photos/index.html

Eh Detox...too much lights...do something!

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Tasos_NOtrea
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Posted : Jan 15, 2005 01:22
Hey psydubient..I agree with you in lot of things that you said...I don't like full on because the 80 % of it is crap without psychedelia...As for scandinavian progressive trance went more clubby but I don't think that's bullshit..I suggest you to listen the new iboga stuff.As for infected mushroom maybe their last album is their worst release.Can you call it psychedelic?I can call it pop trance...Psychedelia has gone...The age of "shiva" is past.Now the machinces can produse the absolut trance..Juno Reactor's album is real masterpiece,high quality production and really psychedelic under industrial and gothic influences..Also x-dream,maybe their music is very different than the traditional psy-trance of 90's but as I said Now the machinces can produse the absolut trance xex
so you want to tell us that gms,talamasca,alien project,etnica etc. aren't produce psychedelic music?? Yes They aren't produse psychedelic..They are psychedelic only in titles and music categories...Some years ago they prodused..

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movek
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Jan 15, 2005 09:01
Psychedelic journeys are indivitual as the people who make them.
Ok there are fluffy full-on and clubby progressive sounds out there... but between them you can't find really good psychedelic

The problem is that nowdays the critiria are differend...a track is good if is moving the people at the dancefloor...that's the point when real psychedelia leaves ...rolling basslines,standard formulas and the track becomes a trip maybe but with the auto-pilot on

But even if things are something like that
and you don't like it
you don't earn anything just saying all these words,this topic isn't gone change anything

If you want a change you must push things and try to make a change with every way you can,with your own way

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psydubient

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Posted : Jan 15, 2005 13:56
After a good sleep I want to say my last words to the topic that I opened.

First of all sorry but my point of this it wasn’t to tell you what to hear.
THIS THING ARE DOING THE PROMOTERS THE ORGANISERS AND ALL THE OTHERS LIKE THEM.

Seecond I’m not a guru at psydelic music I just like the psychedelic music at all it’s forms.Thank you soul_rebel for the link.This looks like completely psychedelic!

So the point of my topic was to find out if there are people like me who like to here these things and generally something different from the masses and if we could do something to bring some of these artists.
From now on I would like to answer to me the people who really believe that we could do something to this direction.

Finally I’ve never said that I don’t like or that I don’t dance with artists like Dj Anti(Spiral Traxx rules),Human Blue(awesome at Kaiafas!),Emok,generally Iboga,
or the Scandinavian girl Stella Nutella(the best for me at Kaiafas).
But there is always a but THEY DON”T CREATE OR PLAY PSYCHEDELIC MUSIC THEY CREATE OR PLAY EXCELLENT AWESOME DANCEFLOOR KILLING TRACKS THAT CAN MAKE ME DANCE FOR MANY DAYS WITH LARGE AMOUNTS OF ENERGY DRUGS.
THIS MUSIC DOESN’T GIVE YOU ENERGY LIKE PSYCHEDELIC BUT TAKES THE ENERGY THAT YOU PUT IN YOU WITH DRUGS.
H MOUSIKH AYTH EINAI GIA NA XEDINEIS KAI NA EKTONONESAI OXI GIA NA SKEFTESAI KAI NA PROBLHMATIZESAI.DEN EXEI NA KANEI ME TO MYALO KAI TO SOMA ALLA ME TO SOMA KAI MONO.

I’ll say it once again anyone who realy believes that an ambient festival can be done,or someone of this artists can come to our country please I’ll be glad if he will answer my topic.The only thing I really want is to see and hear something different at Greece.Isn’t it fair?Am I asking something very difficult?And why?
Iam waiting for your answers.
orange
Fat Data

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Posted : Jan 15, 2005 14:30
this topic is real????

come on man take it easy iff you think that there is no more psy DONT LISTEN TO IT!!! listen to what you like and keep those anoying thoughts to your self

stay cool and if you cant get in the fridge for a couple of hours you feel much better

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http://soundcloud.com/kymamusic
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