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Posted : Apr 8, 2013 23:24
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On 2013-04-04 16:23, PoM wrote:
should try it tomorrow, will report if that one is noisy too
well?
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Posted : Apr 8, 2013 23:59
couldn't try it yet it s in demo in a store not too far but didn t go yet
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Posted : Apr 15, 2013 00:02
weeelll? do i have to wait until the mini is released to get an answer to the noise conundrum?
cause if all the minis are noisy then probably the volcas will be too and i can scratch them from my list...
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Posted : Apr 15, 2013 01:26
you wont get response from me man, i have no reason to go anymore to that store... to far just to go for trying ms20
really spectical with all their stuff at that price, it s already hard to get quality when it s expensive ... but hopefully it will be
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Posted : Apr 15, 2013 19:31
alrighty, guess i have to wait until the mini is released then...
the quality is indeed a big question mark but with those prices most will in any case consider them as "mere toys" and have fun with them as long as it lasts.
that's the ingenious thing about a cheap price tag. nobody actually expects anything of cheap products anymore. we except poor quality without questions were it clothes, food, intruments... we just buy it cause it's cheap and when it's broken we go and buy more cheap stuff. everybody's happy: we get to shop more often and get that little thrill and the manufacturers sell more while the pile of rubbish grows and grows. pff...
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Posted : Apr 27, 2013 00:26
there is a review on audiofanzine (probably only in french) ,usually these are decent review.. they said it s not very loud and can be noisy
they compared it to the real ms20, ms20 mini vco are more stable and brighter, from the sample comparaison it sound slighty more modern in comparaison to the old Ms20, funny all modern analog suffer from this..probably age of component.. for making modern music it s maybe more suited but it can sound less vintage/analog
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Posted : Apr 27, 2013 22:06
idk, sounds very slightly different but I'm not running off to my synth shop to cancel my MS 20 mini preorder.
From what I've heard, the exact same knob settings on the old and the new compared will sound slightly different, but you can tweak them to sound exactly the same
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Posted : Apr 27, 2013 23:35
i doubt you can t make them sound really identical, maybe on some settings.. but the osc drift more less bright and slighty deeper low it seems but anyway..if i was about to buy one i would sure get a new ms20 and not the old one..the caractere is close and for the price you get a lot...
but i can see ms20 junkies still keeping their old one cause of the sound.
it s like 303 vs xox ,newer sem vs old sem, newer moog vs old moogs ect.. you find the similar difference in sound that i think are cause of the circuits ageing... today components are maybe more precise too no idea how it could affect the sound..
for best sounding result components need to be hand matched making it maybe not possible to produce in factory , or making it cost way more...i have read stuff about this but it could be bullshit dunno..
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Posted : Apr 28, 2013 14:38
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omg, the old ms20 sounds so much better...
There is only one patch where I prefer the original MS-20 the resonant sweeping patch that starts at 2:05. Not sure if the settings where the same as the overdrive is a lot more apparent on the original MS-20.
In all the other patches I prefer the MS-20 Mini. It just has more bite and that bite is crucial in a modern psy-trance mix.
There is no way I would pay absurd vintage market price for an original MS-20, only to add top end with EQs later on.
Even if they cost the same cash, I would still choose the MS-20 Mini...tastes and all that...
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Posted : Apr 28, 2013 15:34
imo the newer ms 20 can sound closer to a va/plugin than the vintage one from the sound i heard, it don't have as much analog caractere
the mini is probably more suited for some sounds and less for some others vs the old ones
there is probably not 2 old ms20 that sound identical too..so..
On 2013-04-27 22:06, willsanquil wrote:
idk, sounds very slightly different but I'm not running off to my synth shop to cancel my MS 20 mini preorder.
From what I've heard, the exact same knob settings on the old and the new compared will sound slightly different, but you can tweak them to sound exactly the same
Who knows though, still excited to get mine!
Oh man, it is fine, i would definitely like to hear your thoughts after you get one. More than that i would like to own ms20m ini too www.overdreamstudio.com
On 2013-04-27 11:33, makus wrote:
omg, the old ms20 sounds so much better...
There is only one patch where I prefer the original MS-20 the resonant sweeping patch that starts at 2:05. Not sure if the settings where the same as the overdrive is a lot more apparent on the original MS-20.
In all the other patches I prefer the MS-20 Mini. It just has more bite and that bite is crucial in a modern psy-trance mix.
There is no way I would pay absurd vintage market price for an original MS-20, only to add top end with EQs later on.
Even if they cost the same cash, I would still choose the MS-20 Mini...tastes and all that...
well i see your point, actually the test isnt really precise, the volume is different first of all, it may exaggerate the difference, but to me the second one sounds less fat, but still has the same very cool korg sound. i wonder what klippel would say there www.overdreamstudio.com
