new directions in trance?

On 2008-05-01 21:34, Soul Kontakt wrote:

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On 2008-05-01 16:55, heretical wrote: Quote: On 2008-04-30 10:13, ocelot wrote: i like jazz a lot. just been getting into different kinds of jazz. Jazz is a good contrast to psy IMO genre wise. Of course someone can make a good new jazz album but there is absolutely no way after 80+ years of the best musicians on the planet exploring a style that you could actually make a ground breaking album like what guys did back in the day. No way psytrance is at this point yet though, I don't think things have even evolved here yet to the point of the 50s in jazz compared to the charlie parker era. If I could do one thing to make psytrance more interesting I would create a virus that deletes every psytrance artist high hat samples and deletes the sequencers ability to put an open high hat on the off beat if more than 3 in a row are used. If you listen to IDM for any length of time there are so many interesting high frequency sounds and patterns that could be used instead of 808 high hat variations. One last point is I think emerging artists need to take more responsibility for the garbage they are adding to the pile. I obviously have my own ideas on psytrance music, work on tracks all the time...I know I can make a "releasable" track but I feel its responsible to not dilute the pool with even more copy/paste garbage, making it just that much harder to find the good stuff. The little blue logo under your name on here doesn't mean much when half the people have it. Since there is no real money to be made in this genre, I really don't understand why people feel the need to promote their music when its obviously not done or you didn't stretch your abilities to what you could actually do, did not create your own personal statement that if someone hears 10 seconds of your music they know instantly "ohh that must be a track by X". If more people had that goal in mind, instead of just making music to get some prestige that isn't there anyway, psytrance would be lifted to a higher level in a year easily.

I am impressed man really nice words in there really inspiring to many people for sure. I totally agree with this statement.

On 2008-04-29 20:04, rich wrote:
I find that I've been listening to artists who I feel a musical connection with, more than anything.
Suomi style for example.
Not necessarily because there's anything groundbreaking, but because there's a free abandon there, more risk taking, more just having fun with it, than most other styles.
That to me is enough to keep me interested.

When I listen to EvsY and Haltya or Mandalavandalz, as a musician myself I feel they are some of the few artists who I feel respect me personally, as a music lover.

I hear the musicianship and where they're coming from and what they're enjoying when they're creating it.

And that they're sharing that love of music with me makes me feel like I'm in the room with them nodding with a shared smile the way band members do when they're jamming and fall into a great groove together.

That means as much to me as any groundbreaking addition to an established music.
I'd like to see more of that.
And maybe from that can come inspiration and innovation.

On 2008-04-29 09:58:19, ocelot wrote:
this is a topic to discuss any new directions you see in trance. new means this year or within the last 12 months more or less...
new means not like more of the same from before. new as in "new"
or maybe new combinations... or maybe new concepts...

anyone?
whats the zeitgeist? the spirit of now?

On 2008-05-15 19:25, ZenMind wrote:
Jazz!!! The last frontier, were no men has gone before. Jazz is always groundbreaking every time you hear a jazz jam you're listening to something new its alive! Its the interpretation that renews the meaning its freedom that gives it a new breath.

In psy mixing new noises or removing them are not the big issue IMO making new patterns is easy, making it sound different is also easy ...groundbreaking is a all new ball game IMO groundbreaking is a musician that can give soul to a track, investigate together with the listener new worlds, bring to perception refined feelings, construct magic by putting together the right sequence of notes, adding or taking from a composition is only groundbreaking if its serving higher purposes.

Psy is not or shouldn't be a toy, give it to the right producer and he will operate wonders on you (either you know it or not), change your vision or simply help you bring the best (or worst) of you, make you fly deep inside your own unknown, clean your soul, and so many other things.

What are you searching for in a change and a new direction? Have you stopped travelling the galaxies? Have you stopped wondering about higher things? Who you are? Whats out there?...

I think you have stopped demanding real meaning in things so the question is pertinent, new directions in trance? GET BACK TO WHAT IT WAS MADE FOR...