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neverland team issue

kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko
kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko

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Posted : Nov 28, 2005 13:19
ok
again
this is not a war-i said already some times
now-jason21......man...i wish you only fun when you play and wherever you go.you want to play for free?fine with me mate... you said:
"ok man.i can understand that u play music for JOB>i disagree with u ..i think the real big artists started to crate and play music only for hobby no money. "
man-i make psy chill.do you know how much it is difficult in our scene??for the labels to sell it and promote it?for the artist and labels to get the right attitude from the organize that book them???many of organize always make problem to chill artist and not paying on their air ticket and make problems with the money always.dis respect as artist is artist-no matter if he make trance ,dub,or rock or jazz ---let say music yes?
the big ones???no one from them play for free man--they are in labels and organize with contract and stuff like that ,that just they haft to take money.they play for the fun...as well as me mate.
i play for 8 years mon!!!not for 1 or 2..i played all over the world from japan to s.america and new york.do you really think i need to play for free for someone that charge money for the entrance???it it sound logic to you??i make the music for fun,not for the money.but indeed i need also to see profits from that if i want to continue to make it that djs as you also will have what to play(for free as you said mon.we make the music-no matter what style-and you play it)...
in my start i played for free in parties in israel when they didn't charge entrance.it was 8 years ago.i think that i earn my right to charge money on that.i work in other jobs as well.and mate-believe me i work hard more than you think.in sound system ,like crazy,no sleep for more than 48 hours.and than i need the time to make music.about money-i already choose to make kukan style and less itaitaiko.this is the decision of money mate.you tell me that if i love music ,so i need not to take money from the organize..sorry mate,but people like you make artist like me and others-when you play for free-to stop making music because the organizes start to prefer the ones that play for free on the artist.they know that you will play the music the artist make...but they still charge 20-50 euro entrance...
please---do your way.and the ones that professional will keep their way.
you prefer to play for drugs and not for the money-how old are you mate??i am 30.i past it in 16.my fun is the people-as you brother-i know your thoughts are good,i believe in honest in this world and true and good vibe.we play for fun and not for drugs or money..but when you like this or that in life(no matter if it is money or drugs),you choose the things that it is the best for you.as well respect the things that are good for the others...
keep your work and keep your vibe and push the scene forward...this is the way...dj/artist/labels need and most to get back the power they put in,that people will be able to enjoy again from their music,and not that we will hear that this artist /labels etc..been closed or stop make music.
that make again the point that i said-that i don't need to feel sad after i make music.
now-leeloo---what can i say?i understand you.you ae friends of andonis..i am just an artist that he booked.i play live of kukan and also itaitaiko in his festival.this issue will be here and not on pm because this is the way we will communicate for now.
i AM a trance dj.for long time--very long even.
so i don't understand exactly your words about things shouldn't be posted here...i hope that it not say that if i play chill -so it not concern the people because that explained exactly my words that above.
you said : "Since after six conversations with Andonis, you couldn't understand each other, I am at least happy that in some way I gave you some answers. You could pm also.. anyways.. "
i understand him totally...i as well pm you.i can make copy and paste for that if you want-i have it.as well his words also.but i keep it for now because i still give him respect.
he promise me the money each time for the next week after,so please don't tell me that we didn't understand each other.i told you--i understand you,but if you support them as friend so you promise me things,so i ask you if he not pay me will you pay me instead?
i sure you got what i mean right?
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andrejcid
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Posts :  355
Posted : Nov 28, 2005 15:25
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On 2005-11-28 03:00, jason21 wrote:
i think the real big artists started to crate and play music only for hobby no money.


Oh, I always wondered what 'real artists' are. the originality and depth of your thoughts truely enlightened me, my dear arts lord--> NO
*bangs the head on the table*
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What do u say if i tell u that before 3 years i went to England (LIVERPOOL) and in my first party there i found the organisers and tell them:hi i know to djing and i want to play for u if is possible WITHOUT MONEY OF COURSE.They toldme to bring a cd with my music.I did it .(I used to play in Greece without money ,only because i LIKE IT MORE THAN ANY OTHER THINK IN THE WORLD.)


and...is there something u expect him to say jason?
Im really glad ur happy doing what you r doing. but do u honestly think u r at a level comparable to Itay and feel your contribution to music arts is large enough to lecture him? time to get back to reality
matey

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IMHO asking for your money is one of the fustrating-unbelievable things a human being is called to do.


it is indeed,...for the one that owes the money. but u see, I somehow dont feel sorry for the 'frustrations' the neverland gang are going through as a result of Itay's request to get HIS money. its absolutely their problem if they get frustrated by ppl they owe money to...
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djNexon
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Posted : Nov 28, 2005 17:52
Itay have you contact with andonis??????            Iono music

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sahedelic
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Posted : Nov 28, 2005 18:20
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On 2005-11-28 17:52, Nexon wrote:
Itay have you contact with andonis??????



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kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko
kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko

Started Topics :  144
Posts :  1728
Posted : Nov 28, 2005 18:58
so nexon-after you ask me i called andonis again.
he answer now-
we talk and he said to wait till the 10 in december so i give him the full respect and i wait.
for now--lets see whats up on the way.
i explaine him as well why i wrote this topic(this is for you leeloo if you want he can expliane you as well),and that there was no other choice to get him.
i give them the time for now.
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CLAW
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Posted : Nov 28, 2005 19:31
ok friend, since u got an answer from andonis, there is no need to keep this thread open...

lets hope there will be a solution...

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