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neverland team issue

kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko
kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko

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Posted : Nov 24, 2005 01:10
respect charalambos
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Posted : Nov 24, 2005 12:39
Hi !!!!!!

I can make a list of artists and djs / visuals / stuff / that they never got any euro from Neverland team . also i can make a list of artists that they got double fees and double flight tickets ....
Adonis and Nasia
We re all friends but this friendship make this scene , the parties un professional -

Candyflip boys tried to take some money but .....Promises

Maybe we have to wait them more ....

Goodluck !

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Polyester Corespun


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Posts :  106
Posted : Nov 24, 2005 12:58
this whole thread is specially dedicated to Nexon, a young member of the Neverland team who was preaching to us how high the Neverlanders keep the scene in thessaloniki and what is the meaning of trance http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/75022/forum/17/start/0

bravo! the scene has reached the skies thanx to Neverland, you can't get higher than that!
Tom Burn


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Posts :  80
Posted : Nov 24, 2005 16:11
Quote:

On 2005-11-24 12:58, Polyester Corespun wrote:
this whole thread is specially dedicated to Nexon, a young member of the Neverland team who was preaching to us how high the Neverlanders keep the scene in thessaloniki and what is the meaning of trance http://forum.isratrance.com/viewtopic.php/topic/75022/forum/17/start/0

bravo! the scene has reached the skies thanx to Neverland, you can't get higher than that!



          blow your tits with nitro
euphoria

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Posts :  173
Posted : Nov 24, 2005 17:17
Before one week i was with some young trancers who were working at this "festival"...not only they didn't got their money...they payed from their pockets to leave the place.

So Stratos you forgot the workers as well besides artists ,vjs. And i mean for simple young kids who got fulled by the "trance plur" bulls**t

Polyester corespun very nice reply for nexon.

Shame to all of those (tyxodioktes). You had to get ready for any occasion.Including a financial dissaster. Take your responsibilities and pay . "organisers my ass". If you don't have money, stay at your bar and leave parties and festivals. (mexri ekei pu ftanei to xeri sas) in simple greek
Laharl


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Posted : Nov 24, 2005 17:36
Full respect Itay...
what can i say?
keep it up and don't let this non-professional organisers to take you down... I feel you and I am sorry with what happened, i wish i could help you at any way
I recommend you speak about this to any contacts around Greece (Salonika), and who knows? the world is small, u may find from someone why this exactly happened and if and when u gonna get the money u earned with hard work!
-Nasala-

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Posted : Nov 24, 2005 18:23
seriously..
it is truly a very ugly behavior , i personaly think that ppl who treat this way to artists should be expelled from the PLUR society.. bringing up their bad name in public isnt a crime or off topic .. its the other way around.. somthing that should be said and done - and i am sure that Itay isnt the 1st person who got disillusion from them ...
mate dont let them take out your spirit !!

Keep it real
Orly
kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko
kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko

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Posts :  1728
Posted : Nov 25, 2005 12:23
i still wait to neverland respond           Check out my music page - free music , new style and more :)
djNexon
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Posted : Nov 25, 2005 17:10
Polyester corespun i told u sorry the last time because i didn't understand the meaning(in english)of your reply(i wrote it in this topic)!!!!!!I am not the lawyer of neverland team.I am a friend and that's why i supported them sometimes....Many artists in the world never got money after their live act's or dj sets but they didn't make a topic which put promoters to shame!!My opinion is that itay or someone else who has problem to contact with andonis or nasia and come to an end with this issue!!!!!!!!!!            Iono music

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euphoria

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Posts :  173
Posted : Nov 25, 2005 17:34
So if there are many artists in the world that didn't get their money, is a good excuse for neverland to do the same nexon?

What the fu**k are you talking about man?
These forums are here as a last option for artists to push things . The guy said that he called neverland hundreds of times. Are you blind or sth?
And if you check all the sections at isratrance you will see many topics of artists who are exposing such "organisers".

It is the last thing for an artist to do and IMO the artist is obligated to do so. Let everybody know after 5 months of usless efforts that these organisers fooled him.

You keep on trying to support neverland? Get real man. I said it in a previous post. You can't just announce a "festival" without a serious financial back up and run it with an attidude like "hey what the f*ck!! lets make a festival ,and if things go well with money we will pay....else we are sorry but we don't have the money to do so...instead of such adventurus efforts...you better sit at your eggs (kathiste sta avga sas)

And now it is this poor guys post that bothers you?

Shame
LeeLoo


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Posts :  364
Posted : Nov 25, 2005 20:25
So...
Dear Kukan...
It is quite a fustrating situation to be called to work and not to get the money promised... I've been there and I believe most ppl have... Shit happens...
I also know that this is not the first time this kind of shit happens to you and you are quite fed up by this situation.
But when Andonis says that you will get your money, it means that you are going to get them. But for the time being, as they say in my country "you are not getting any by one that hasn't got any"!!! Wait in this case means WAIT -not a day or two- (for you have talked 6 times with Andonis on the phone) and if you are calling every single day, do not expect for them to answer you just to say WAIT again! You have no war you say, but be patient and wait a little bit longer! As you see they have a war against them! Cause when you are going down, friends suddenly dissapear, everyone is pushing and everything turns against you. And if you feel really sorry about it and you are not a fortune hunter, it can really get to you. I believe you know what I mean.

As for professional organisation Euphoria...
Lets talk about "professional" personnel who leaves the entrance-ticket post and goes to put on some make up! Lets talk about "professional" personnel that steals the money frm the tickets! Euphoria, even if it hadn't rain the fest would have "gone down the toilet". For the personnel stole most of the money!!!
There are also rumours that the personnel broke into the bar and stole the equipment when the guys were still in Paranesti!!!

As for Itay's requests it is not happening the last 5 months but the last 1,5 month. For I have informed Andonis to call him 1,5 month ago (Itay knows what I am saying and I believe he can verify it also), because the guys are in such deep moneyless shit, that they do not even use the net. They have not fooled him they have just asked him to wait! But Kukan thought that this is the way to get his money. Darling, they do not have any!!!
They guys organised BDF last year also, and Kukan was payed and everyone was payed even if it came frm their own pockets!
They guys took the risk once more...
And now they have ppl like Euphoria to say who should do what! If ppl want to risk, they risk and as it seems if things do not go well (rather disaster) they should also drop dead? Ha?
If pp want to support them, then they should! For me they deserve it, for them guys are not in it for the money (of course it is included) but for the grace of giving ppl a good time. The smiles on their faces is the greatest reward. They do not see ppl as chickens like most do.

Furthermore, one could easily say that pro organisation was the SDF! Really? I had to chase them 3 days in the fest area to get my money and I saw the ambient decorator crying at the entrance for the money he didn't get and for the deco that has been stolen by "trancers" that though that it was very suitable for their house's or their private party decoration!
Even if you are or not a professional, shit happens!!!
I don't know anyone who's id wears the pro tag in fests organisation.
Personally the only pros I know in Greece are djing. Not organising.

So... Itay dear plz wait. Things are so tough for the guys this time. This will get you nowhere but to replies frm ppl who always have something "nice" to say. Even that is wrong to post their parties here! Imagine a situation where everything had gone swell with the fest! That you got payed and then invited to play a set at Neverladn bar (I wish! I wish! I wish!). It shouldn't be posted, because... I don't know.. You dont't play trance. And it would not be a trance event nope!
As you can see, you can only make things tougher for them! And I do not believe that these are your intentions. You just do not want to be fooled no more. In this case you are not. So please wait!!!

This should be a pm, but as things have turned out, it is now a thread.
I would like for Itay to reply and the case to be closed here. Lets make it my Christmas wish!

This was too sad a post. I don't like at all.
And since today is my name day..
I wish all the wishes given to me to turn out also for all of you.
The bad thing till now.. is that no one wished me money!!!


Cheers!!!

PS And yes I will be celebrating in Neverland today. To support the guys, to support the artists and to have a blast with my friends and dance to the music I love so much!!!           Minds are just like parachutes. They only work when they are open. :)
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Posts :  107
Posted : Nov 25, 2005 20:53
Happy Birthday Leeloo !

Well I start to get upset with all of this b..........
Dont try to apologise for them ...

Its better the Chp to lock the post cause he knows the true , he knows before the rain what happened to the festival ...
Lets give them time but please stop to talk , about war against them , friendship, vibes, professianalism, bad luck and smile faces .... bla bla bla bla bla bla enough !!!!!

Shame !!!!!

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old friend

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Posts :  59
Posted : Nov 25, 2005 22:04
Quote:

On 2005-11-25 12:23, kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko wrote:
i still wait to neverland respond



you will wait for a long time.
You are not the first one
euphoria

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Posts :  173
Posted : Nov 26, 2005 00:26
Quote:

On 2005-11-25 20:25, LeeLoo wrote:
As for professional organisation Euphoria...
Lets talk about "professional" personnel who leaves the entrance-ticket post and goes to put on some make up! Lets talk about "professional" personnel that steals the money frm the tickets! Euphoria, even if it hadn't rain the fest would have "gone down the toilet". For the personnel stole most of the money!!!
There are also rumours that the personnel broke into the bar and stole the equipment when the guys were still in Paranesti!!!


They guys organised BDF last year also, and Kukan was payed and everyone was payed even if it came frm their own pockets!
They guys took the risk once more...
And now they have ppl like Euphoria to say who should do what! If ppl want to risk, they risk and as it seems if things do not go well (rather disaster) they should also drop dead? Ha?



It is nice to defend your friends leeloo. Although the personel is still part of the organisation and they should be more carefull about their choises. But i can tell you that this is a FAT lie...the personel stole the money...come on this is another bright example that these people are uncapable of organising such events.

And dear leeloo i have every right to express my opinion - based on facts - .What are you telling us here? Anyone is free to risk his own life if he wants to. But Darling HIS ass...not other peoples asses. I think i am very clear about this. You want to risk? FINE!!! But not on other peoples backs.

And don't give us that crap here about the pure psychedelic spirit intentions of neverland. You may buy this s**t but some of us don't.

And what is this about locking this topic? This not a war against neverland. It is a warning to dangerus adventurers (tyxodioktes) that their actions will be exposed. Now go and drink your drinks at the bar and have fun.
A bar is already enough for these guys to handle.
Drink one for me also and tell them to stay away from such troubles. Cause unfortunately these troubles effect other people too as you can understand
sungroup


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Posted : Nov 26, 2005 01:53
Neverland is nice bar. But here they make wrong move. I agree that if you don't have money beter don't risk. Now face the consecuences. No excuses. Kukan dub lagan friend...forget your money. There are more serious threats that neverland has to pay first. Bad weather bad luck empty pockets and lawyers like leeloo are not enough. First the fuskwtoi will get the money           it's time to trance
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