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Music is about making money, so what's so wrong?
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Blind Mind
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Posted : Apr 19, 2003 13:43
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Since Boom Festival 2000, i'm one of the most HAPPY & "Frustated";) Human Beings on Planet Earth 
In a short period, i searched & discovered in this INFINIT World so much truly fantastic MASTERPIECES, than almost in all my Life before !!! So, i'm HAPPY 
Actually, i'm totally amazed though, on the other hand, i also feel a kind of "Frustation" which is really annoying 
Authentic "Pieces of Art" that should be listened & appreciated by MILLIONS and what we realize is Labels with serious finantial problems (and not only) because they just sell 250/500/1500/2500 Copys and almost noone talks about some incredible musical Works 
And some Musicians (fortunately, not all) that we hugely admire, can't even achieve a decent Life from its natural REMARKABLE Talent 
yeah yeah, i know it's Underground 
Excuse me please, can't resist...
Speaking for myself, no problems at all if my favourites Artists (and the other ones) are pretty famous, are having fun playing around the World, are winning LOTS of money or if they simply are...VERY HAPPY, you know ?
At least, so happy as i feel with their > WONDERFUL "Creations" 
Well...Nevermind !
NP > John Lennon-"Imagine"   - BEing mySELF |
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traveller
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Posted : Apr 19, 2003 15:00
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"In 1 Month, saturday the 10th of may, Tiėsto will give a concert performance for 25.000 in one of Holland“s biggest stadiums. This first danceconcert in the world is sold out.
One month before the event takes place, all tickets to the much discussed event, are sold. That DJ Tiėsto is going to have the honour is of course beyond all doubt. The Dutchman has won nearly every award in both the Dutch and global dance-scene, with the USA Dancestar award, as his latest trophy, which he won during the Winter Music Conference in Miami last month.
The preparations for “Tiėsto in Concert“ are in full flight and Tiėsto himself is much involved with the production. This is going to be the most beautiful performance of my life, so everything must be perfect. I have been looking forward to it for months now according to the worldfamous DJ.
With his artist-album 'In My Memory' in all the international dance-charts, his diverse style and his much respected choice of music, he is the person to stage such an event."
Media Cornern Productions is there with 17 video cameras. The gig will be shown live in Europe, North America and Asia..
that's commercialism my friends.. I hope this will never happen to our scene.. it's just.. well I wouldn't be suprised if Tiesto was to play some Astral Projection, Yahel, Infected Mushroom, GMS, etc tracks..
"The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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maka
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Posted : Apr 19, 2003 15:19
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I was reading somewhere, that if Pink Floyd would start out today, they would never make it.
I think that's what is wrong today. Commercial music today does generally not reflect "good music"
So actually if our favourite trance artists would have some commercial success, then this would and could actually change this sorry state of the music industry.
Why not believing that something good, something we like could also have huge commercial success. Let's be positive here, - it's in our own interest!!!
Why wouldn't we wish our favourite artists some luck, that they could actually make a good living out of their hard work, which we enjoy so much ?
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Apr 19, 2003 16:39
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Why wouldn't we wish our favourite artists some luck, that they could actually make a good living out of their hard work, which we enjoy so much ?
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of course, it's a blessed thing. but if the money will ruin the creativity and art of that same artist, then all my apreciation to him will be gone.
REHAB is for quitters |
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nobody_3
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Posted : Apr 19, 2003 18:17
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all I can say is: bla bla bla....
this subject is so boring......
I guess that people that are so against "commercialism" are without jobs and think money are evil? |
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A.Rosengren
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Posted : Apr 19, 2003 18:49
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Give me all you“re money people!
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Pasha
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Posted : Apr 21, 2003 15:31
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I guess that people that are so against "commercialism" are without jobs and think money are evil?
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Nice one
Hehe...
About Tiesto -what'so wrong with such a show? LOADS of people will have fun there and it's good!
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Hodi
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Posted : Apr 21, 2003 18:49
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People who do music only for the money (like yahel)
do shitty music
looks at yahel's private collection and hallucinate..
worst yahel albums ever
u can find "Anything U Want" using the search... |
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Blind Mind
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Posted : Apr 24, 2003 04:47
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Even with countless problems, there are many examples of Labels & Musicians which have been doing an AMAZING Job, in my opinion !!!
How all these guys "survive" 
Honestly 
However, i guess somehow the words LOVE, imagination, creativity, dedication & LOTS of hard Work, among others, should be related in a possible answer, i don't know.
My point is not about the music be made for money proposes only 
Anyway, we gotta wake up and understand that, without money, our beloved Artists (as well as everybody) simply can't move on and give us what we really want/need.
What i'm saying is that to sell, in the Trance World (at least), such "MUSEUM Pieces" shouldn't be a real problem.
But it is
Better face it.
By the way, it was mentioned Pink Floyd...
Pink Floyd is not, even nowadays, one of the most profitable "Companys" in the history of the musical Industry ?
The music itself, is better or worse because of that fact ?
And if those awesome "MONSTERS";) was Underground (as they were, at the beginning) it wasn't quite sad if we didn't have the GREAT LUCK in knowing them ?
That's EXACTLY why i consider myself a SUPER LUCKY guy  for having discovered Trance music from where it's possible to "extract" (as you know) among many many different emotions, continuous OVERDOSES  of the most captivating combination of "Energys" that we can get:
> LOVE & (Full;) POWER <
 - BEing mySELF |
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nobody4
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Posted : Apr 24, 2003 09:53
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I would like to refer you to Yaniv (Cosmophilia) article on the last (?) Mushroom magazine about labels, distribution and artists in the trance scene.
As a member of a running label, I can see the disillusion of many ppl who consider us a commercial scene - we can barely call ourselves a scene.
And as I wrote before, once u become a manufacturer (of music or parties), u need to sell your product. The thin line is knowing when the formula is overused and when the innovation becomes just another tune among same.
Cheers,
Auspexx
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sage2012
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Posted : Apr 24, 2003 12:58
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c'mon folks, everyone knows that music never has and never should be about making money... it's all about the groupies!
that having been said.. there are lots of musicians that never make much money selling records, but still manage to do alright by performing @ live events. unless an artist has some stake in the label that is releasing their music, the royalty percentage that they receive for their music is usually pretty pale. conversely, when an artist is booked to perform live, they get compensed in a much more direct fashion for doing something that they are passionate about. the grateful dead never really sold a ton of records, but became one of the most profitable live acts in the history of touring...
michael
www.atlantapsytrance.net
http://touchsamadhi.com/artists/michael-curran
http://soundcloud.com/sage2012
http://mixcloud.com/sage2012/ |
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Ohmem
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Posted : Apr 24, 2003 13:57
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Bands that sell good and keep their creativity and freshness are rare.
Helen, I do think we have a scene. And it is a powerful and beautiful one. But we should look at the signs and reflect on them. It's up to all of us to keep it fresh and it's spirit alive and healthy. |
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Pak-Man
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Posted : Apr 30, 2003 06:54
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On 2003-04-21 18:49, hod gavriel wrote:
People who do music only for the money (like yahel)
do shitty music
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Do u know Yahel personally? Did he get up and say I only make trance 4 money? Sorry dude but your statement is based on your opionion, which is  |
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Pak-Man
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Posted : Apr 30, 2003 07:00
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I think we should give r artists a break they work very hard and constant to supply the trance community with good music, they also work very hard to put money in their pockets, Psy-trance DJ's and artists aren't overly paid in comparison to a majority of music scenes, and even if an artist was only making trance 4 money, so what as long as its good who really cares! |
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