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MP3 DOWNLOADING: Spelling The End for Dance Music

Evy
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Posted : Sep 20, 2004 23:58
A friend of mine wrote this for a hard dance website. I am curious to find out how it relates to the psy trance scene?

Let me know your thoughts...

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MP3 DOWNLOADING: Spelling The End for Hard Dance Music
Reported by Olly Perris / Submitted 07-09-04 22:09.22
Hard Dance clubbers, fans, DJ's, producers and followers, this is your wake-up call. The music which we dance to, know and love so well is going into serious decline; at the rate it is disappearing now, by this time next year, we will have hardly any hard dance music left to dance to. And why is this happening? Because people would rather download music for free than buy it, completely oblivious to the fact that their actions are having a devastating effect on our scene as we know it now.

We have all done it in the past, myself included. No one person is immune to it. We hear a great song, we instantly want a copy of it, and due to modern file sharing systems, we can get a copy of it for free, and without time and effort to hunt down a copy. Great! No, actually, it is not great at all. With the recent news that huge hard dance distributors Alphamagic and Infectious have folded due to reporting abysmal record sales, and other news that certain major labels have had to fire staff because they are losing money on record sales, it is apparant that the free MP3 culture is killing our scene as we know it. When people begin to lose their jobs, their source of income for their families, something is going terribly wrong, and when producers decide that they cannot afford to produce music any longer, they will simply cease to do so. Face facts folks, MP3 downloading is destroying our scene, and this article aims to dispell common myths associated with the MP3 culture, and hopefully will educate you that what you are doing is morally wrong, and above all, destroying our scene.

MP3 DOWNLOADING: Spelling The End for Hard Dance Music
Reported by Olly Perris / Submitted 07-09-04 22:09.22
Hard Dance clubbers, fans, DJ's, producers and followers, this is your wake-up call. The music which we dance to, know and love so well is going into serious decline; at the rate it is disappearing now, by this time next year, we will have hardly any hard dance music left to dance to. And why is this happening? Because people would rather download music for free than buy it, completely oblivious to the fact that their actions are having a devastating effect on our scene as we know it now.

We have all done it in the past, myself included. No one person is immune to it. We hear a great song, we instantly want a copy of it, and due to modern file sharing systems, we can get a copy of it for free, and without time and effort to hunt down a copy. Great! No, actually, it is not great at all. With the recent news that huge hard dance distributors Alphamagic and Infectious have folded due to reporting abysmal record sales, and other news that certain major labels have had to fire staff because they are losing money on record sales, it is apparant that the free MP3 culture is killing our scene as we know it. When people begin to lose their jobs, their source of income for their families, something is going terribly wrong, and when producers decide that they cannot afford to produce music any longer, they will simply cease to do so. Face facts folks, MP3 downloading is destroying our scene, and this article aims to dispell common myths associated with the MP3 culture, and hopefully will educate you that what you are doing is morally wrong, and above all, destroying our scene.


Part 1: The Myths of MP3 Downloads

MYTH #1: "Downloading music is OK, because the artists in question must sell thousands of units, and the labels can surely afford it."

FACT: This is completely wrong. The major label's record sales are starting to really hurt. A year ago, the average major hard dance release would sell around 2,000-2,500 copies, with the lesser labels perhaps doing 1,500 per release on average. Nowadays, the major labels are lucky to shift 1,500 per release in the first week. The huge decline in record sales is exactly directly proportional to the amount of MP3's downloaded by people on the increasing number of broadband internet connections, who then do not proceed to buy the hard copies afterwards. Alphamagic, one of the largest and most prolific hard dance distributors, recently folded due to extremely poor sales performance, perhaps partly through lack of quality but also due to the fact that even though their tracks were distributed frequently through major chain stores such as HMV & Virgin, their sales figures have been in frequent decline for a long time, due to the effects of MP3 downloading. Other major labels have had to lay off staff, hold back on releases, press fewer copies of records and have even rejected big records because they simply cannot afford to sign them. When people start to lose their jobs and their source of income due to MP3's, then we have an extremely huge problem which MUST be stopped. Imagine if you lost your job because of a circumstance which you could not control, for example a rival company selling a product identical to yours for free, but still somehow benefitting. This is precisely what MP3 downloading is doing to the hard dance scene as we know it.

To read the rest of the debate go the below website link. Unfortunately I couldn't fit the full story on this thread...

http://www.harderfaster.net/?sid=bb4b968b6e2191b616fecfeff833fee4&section=features&action=showfeature&featureid=10754
traveller
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 00:19


yu can edit the post and add more txt to it           "The dinosaurs became extinct because they didn't have a space program."
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DiMiTry
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 02:31


Fewer sales for CDs, lots more sales of party tickets, due to the increased pupularity of the music because of free mp3 downloads.

take your pick.


but this has been discussed again and again and again and again and again.....
pr0fane
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 02:48
Yep, it’s been discussed over and over again.

I know this is serious business for the labels and artists, but still it’s quite hard to figure out for the average listener: The labels and artists constantly yell “The wolf is coming!”, but no wonder people are confused when there are still tons of new releases, and new labels starting almost on a monthly basis.

Nicely written by the way, but again – nothing new.
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 03:40
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On 2004-09-21 02:31, DiMiTry wrote:


Fewer sales for CDs, lots more sales of party tickets, due to the increased pupularity of the music because of free mp3 downloads.

take your pick.






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Goblim
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 04:35
MP3 sharing has been around for 10 years now, and before that people copied with tapes etc. There is more music genres now than ever, especially deep underground. There isn't any need to worry, cause there's nothing we can do about it anyway.          Ut ameris, amabilis esto.
EYB
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 05:36
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On 2004-09-21 00:19, traveller wrote:


yu can edit the post and add more txt to it




Yeah, I don't read this, coz it is to long and i think it contains no useful info.

Sharing raises knowledge and scenes culture quality.

So please share ur music!!

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zooter
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 09:35
oh cmon...not again!
Pt.
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 11:28
hehe.. well.. This is just one persons story.
But mp3 is the reason why i know and love psytrance. Its also the reason why i spend 100 dollars on original psytrance albums almost every month. So mp3 has both its positive sides and negative sides.

Viva la mp3 ... Its a shame that everything has to be about the benjamins (money)
Elad
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 14:58
d/l all what to do.. if u can.. but..- buy what u like!!!
dont forget - support the scene.. its for yourselves... and.. mp3 sound quality sux!!! dont u want original soundz ?           www.sattelbattle.com
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Pt.
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 15:13
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On 2004-09-21 14:58, tsabeat wrote:
d/l all what to do.. if u can.. but..- buy what u like!!!
dont forget - support the scene.. its for yourselves... and.. mp3 sound quality sux!!! dont u want original soundz ?




Word up and exactly what i ment. But the frase mp3 quality sucks.. MMmm... this is almost never true in my case. But i buy albums because i love to have it in ORIGINAL.. I love original albums.. And i love to feel that i support the acts out there. And ythe feeling of having a great album in original cant compare to have in mp3. Think about the album art. The sleeve.. the pictures and writings.

and thats why i'm desperate to get 'Juno Reactor - Lu.ci-ana' in original. I got it on "crappy" mp3.. Anyone know of a copy for sale?
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 16:09
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Its a shame that everything has to be about the benjamins (money)



That will stop the day artists get given food and places to live by people who like their music.           Mastering - http://mastering.OOOD.net :: www.is.gd/mastering
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Satyr
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 16:12
Quote:

On 2004-09-21 15:13, psytones wrote:
But the frase mp3 quality sucks.. MMmm... this is almost never true in my case.



Nothing prsnl 2 U dude, but look at Wav file compression like this:

say u have this digital original of this picture
in Bitmap format
and u save this picture as JPEG to save space,
u will find that it still loox like the same pic
but if u check in detail, u will find that the
'edges' of the picture (edges of all shapes in it)
have become blurry and some colors start to overlap.

now if u save it as Bitmap again,
this change doesnt disappear.


with Wav to MP3 compression and back to Wav decomp.,
it practically goes the same:
the track in itself hasnt changed (yet)
but in detail, changes have occurred
that have a direct effect on dynamics for instance.

maybe not all sets of ears are fit to hear the difference
but if u'd run a few tests, u'd find it.


going from 1411 kbps to 192 for instance,
that's a factor 7 compression
and from 1411 kbps to 320, factor 4 ..

---

maybe it doesnt matter if u listen a couple of albums at home
- then it's just the same as the 'forbidden situation with taperecorders':
not allowed but everybody does/did it
(which is quite obvious, as RadioCassetteRecoders
and empty tapes are sold virtually everywhere).


Sure thing, mp3 is a great medium, say for underground artists
to gain interest from the public Ear
but because of the situation nowadays
many of them will never get a chance
to develop their talents ..
.. and the public will be stuck with
lofi quality relics of
their "work in the past".


... my two eurocents
          
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Satyr
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 16:14
Quote:

On 2004-09-21 16:09, Colin OOOD wrote:
Quote:

Its a shame that everything has to be about the benjamins (money)



That will stop the day artists get given food and places to live by people who like their music.





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blueOrb
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Posted : Sep 21, 2004 16:27

yipee another mp3 post........

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