Djones
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Posted : Nov 15, 2012 19:54
Enough with the teasing!
I already got the Phatty because you got me jealous, but we're not going to start this all over again
Although it sounds very nice
Btw, are the other sounds all Phatty?
If so, I'd like to know how you made that sound at 1.25.
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Posted : Nov 15, 2012 20:17
there is something a little weird in the bassline, in the attack/decay stage dunno what it is? maybe it s tweakable or maybe make it with the phase triger and the remove it and sample the best notes?
the vco sound like it s great for bass.
love the synths sounds used !
Nectarios
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Posted : Nov 15, 2012 20:22
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On 2012-11-15 19:54, Djones wrote:
Enough with the teasing!
I already got the Phatty because you got me jealous, but we're not going to start this all over again
Although it sounds very nice
Btw, are the other sounds all Phatty?
If so, I'd like to know how you made that sound at 1.25.
Yes, its the Slim Phatty. VCO Sync, ADSR modulating master VCO pitch, resonance up, S&H LFO on the VCF, tight attack/decay, little sustain, medium release.
I dont hear anything strange in the attack/decay, every note is spot on. The patch is somewhat clicky cause I like that kind of bass. But its sounding huge in the studio and clean as f@ck!
Djones
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Posted : Nov 15, 2012 20:40
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On 2012-11-15 20:22, Nectarios wrote:
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On 2012-11-15 19:54, Djones wrote:
Enough with the teasing!
I already got the Phatty because you got me jealous, but we're not going to start this all over again
Although it sounds very nice
Btw, are the other sounds all Phatty?
If so, I'd like to know how you made that sound at 1.25.
Yes, its the Slim Phatty. VCO Sync, ADSR modulating master VCO pitch, resonance up, S&H LFO on the VCF, tight attack/decay, little sustain, medium release.
How is the LFO set to S&H when it's already set to modulating the master PITCH thru the ADSR?
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Posted : Nov 15, 2012 21:16
Its not, I had a look at the patch, ramp down LFO slightly modulating master VCO pitch, velocity to VCF frequency, loads of resonance.
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Posted : Nov 16, 2012 08:50
i agree with pom. the initial part of each bass note sound smashed / weird in the midrange on headphones at least..
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/stereofeld-frequenzwechsel "I've always been a believer in musical repetition to draw in the listener and make the music hypnotic. Another thing I believe in is repetition." Alan Parsons
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Posted : Nov 16, 2012 09:31
Hmm, there is no compression, especially on the transients as I always let them through the compressor with a slow attack.
Anyhow that is the first of many basslines to come from the Minitaur. Will post more examples.
So...First impressions: Brilliant sound, very limited sound palette, bummer for only tri LFO, no PWM, lightning fast ADSRs, great sounding VCF although only 4pole as far as I saw on the editor, I can run it from my x0xb0x, VCO phase sync is a godsend, minute tweaks on the VCF, ADSR, create quite different sounding basslines.
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PoM
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Posted : Nov 16, 2012 11:55
sound phat wam ! for the attack i think it s where it retrig the osc waveform that would maybe need a bit of adjustement
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Posted : Nov 16, 2012 13:10
What s the advantage of a minitaur vs a vst vs a virus for bass really? Don t get me wrong, I am a gear addict too, but really! Thanks
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Posted : Nov 16, 2012 13:38
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sound phat wam ! for the attack i think it s where it retrig the osc waveform that would maybe need a bit of adjustement
Could be the fact that I had the attack of the amp ADSR, at 0. But I wanted this click in the bass, I love clicky basslines generally.
There are no phase adjustments in the editor other than Sync On/Off.
Bare in mind that on that clip I have the bassline running in real time through out the track, no choping of best notes...etc to show how stable the VCO retrigger is.
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What s the advantage of a minitaur vs a vst vs a virus for bass really? Don t get me wrong, I am a gear addict too, but really! Thanks
Listen and decide for your self.
Virus C bassline.
VST bassline (Massive)
Moog Slim Phatty bassline
Moog Minitaur bassline
The advantage is yours to decide which one you like most.
PoM
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Posted : Nov 16, 2012 14:03
i clearly like more the texture of the analog ones..no surprise here ,i find digital saw most of the times lack the liquid clean natural quality of analog ones and dont have that full sound from the deep low to the highs
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Posted : Nov 16, 2012 14:10
Yeah same here. Having said that, the soft synth and especially clinical clean bass sounds I get from the Virus, can be put to good use in tracks.
Its all about the mood and what kind of sound you are going for in tunes.
But having said that, there will be a spray of Martian Arts tracks with the Minitaur doing the bass
P.S. I forgot to add Trillian:
So there you have it, two analog bassslines, one digital hardware, one software digital and one ROMpler bassline.
In my opinion its not about just choosing "the best" one for all tunes, but finding which one fits the track you are making.
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Djones
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Posted : Nov 16, 2012 15:00
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On 2012-11-16 14:03, PoM wrote:
i clearly like more the texture of the analog ones..no surprise here ,i find digital saw most of the times lack the liquid clean natural quality of analog ones and dont have that full sound from the deep low to the highs
Although with the Phatty on the lower notes, the bass loses its bite and sounds rather muddy.
Nectarios
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Posted : Nov 16, 2012 15:04
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On 2012-11-16 14:03, PoM wrote:
i clearly like more the texture of the analog ones..no surprise here ,i find digital saw most of the times lack the liquid clean natural quality of analog ones and dont have that full sound from the deep low to the highs
Although with the Phatty on the lower notes, the bass loses its bite and sounds rather muddy.
Look around 110-125Hz on the phatty and gently dip that range to see how you like it. The Phatty is my "harder to fit in a mix" synth as it sounds so big in the lows. I find that reducing that range (depending on the note) gets rid of lots of mud.
Also when I made that bassline for that Dementia track I posted, I had the waveform not at saw 100% but slightly tilted towards the tri waveform. Continuously variable waveforms have their pros and cons.
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