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mixing with 7 % technique

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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 09:29
check this thread on oztrance.com

http://www.oztrance.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=2349
Psynthex
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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 18:44
why dont you post all the interesting INFO in this topic, because if you want to read this "article" / thread on oztr**** you need to be registered

thank you in advance

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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 18:59
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On 2009-04-18 08:46, mubali wrote:
The .7% concept is just a timesaving technique for this particular style of music. Not a rule per say, but more of a mental tool to help minimize the time it will take you to find the correct speed.




hmmm interesting
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Posted : Apr 18, 2009 23:48
I am with Mubali on that one, the 0.7% deal is a guideline, by no means a rule. I often found myself minimally adjusting to really match the beats 100 %! It is so much nicer when it is precise, you can make way longer and crazier mixes, and the crowd will thank you for it!           Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
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Posted : Apr 19, 2009 03:09
I am also with people that use the 0.7% as a guideline only and fine tune by ears... it is helpful though and can save a bit of time.

But from my own findings (and the bpms that I normally play at, which is 150 - 156 roughly) I find that 1 bpm in fact corresponds better to ~0.66%, not 0.7%.

Another fact that I find useful to working out when and where in the track to cue is that at 153.6 bpm it takes exactly 25 seconds to complete 64 beats or 16 bars. Hope that helps somebody, it certainly helps me timing out the track and pre-guessing the structural patterns on the cue in/cue out of the tracks I'm mixing together.          -------------- Dark & Twisted Night Psy --------------
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Elad
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Posted : Apr 19, 2009 13:28
i dont know how anyone doesnt use it
"use the ears" yes yes as if any producer doesnt work on XXX.00 bpms. no one makes 145.39 u know... do it does work good evry time.

and it does work for any bpm , 1.0 is for 100bpm , 0.8 for 120 bpm . 0.7 140bpm and 0.6 on 155 etc.

oh yeah , i dont miss a single beat in mix of over 45 seconds easy (over 150 bpm) and more then 1:30 when its under 145.


if its realy not working then u need special explain why , as i said no producer works on half bpm so this guideline for me works 99% of the times perfect

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Posted : Apr 19, 2009 15:40
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i heard not every player works with this rule..just the pioneer ones




this was a joke?
if it wont work in some cd player, that player is broken.
and not using this rule is just simple stupidity. why not to use it as it is the rule and you just cant bend it and i'm not talking about 0,7=1 beat but 0,7% speed adjustment is always close to 1 beat in psytrance, it saves you a lot of time. I can beat match any two tracks with this method in 10-15 secs....

lets say that i have two tracks, i first check is it faster or slower, at this check out i can also tell if its like 1 or more beats slower/faster, lets say that its slower, first as i hear that its a lot slower i try -1,4 then after one kick i see train wreck so -2,1 and i see its really close so i drop it to -2,05 and its done

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Posted : Apr 19, 2009 17:39
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On 2009-04-19 15:40, polly wrote:
now tell me how you do it better without 0,7 rule?


1. u listen
2. u adjust the pitch
3. repeat few times

10-15 seconds and its done, u dont need no mr. james 007 or whatever, u just listen and slow it down or speed it up, its that simple..           http://www.facebook.com/xrayzproductions
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Posted : Apr 19, 2009 18:45
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On 2009-04-19 15:40, polly wrote:
Quote:

i heard not every player works with this rule..just the pioneer ones




this was a joke?
if it wont work in some cd player, that player is broken.
and not using this rule is just simple stupidity. why not to use it as it is the rule and you just cant bend it and i'm not talking about 0,7=1 beat but 0,7% speed adjustment is always close to 1 beat in psytrance, it saves you a lot of time. I can beat match any two tracks with this method in 10-15 secs....

lets say that i have two tracks, i first check is it faster or slower, at this check out i can also tell if its like 1 or more beats slower/faster, lets say that its slower, first as i hear that its a lot slower i try -1,4 then after one kick i see train wreck so -2,1 and i see its really close so i drop it to -2,05 and its done

now tell me how you do it better without 0,7 rule?





stupid.. i said i heard about not that i know..haven`t played on other players then the pioneers so can`t tell you..

i just played on some really crappy ones with buttons to pitch etc..

i just thought it might be true because of different scaling or whatever thats all...           -------......-------...-..-..-..-.-.-.-.-
Psy_Clone
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Posted : Apr 19, 2009 22:12
This brings another question,
When your playing you know each track its bpm?
And of course i mean the exacy bpm.           Now say the magic words: Bleep Bleep Deep Deep Wham.....
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Posted : Apr 20, 2009 03:12
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On 2009-04-19 13:28, Elad wrote:


oh yeah and in pro dj schools they dont teach that even lol , useless mofo's



are you serious????

dj pro school what a joke.           "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
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Posted : Apr 20, 2009 03:44
except if you're going to learn to scratch in that case maybe a school can help.           "The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures."
RK9
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Posted : Apr 29, 2009 21:33
After reading this thread I've noticed that I'm starting to use it a little bit
DJSarasin
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Posted : Apr 30, 2009 14:22
Agreed with Mubali.

You can either rely on this to get your mixes down (which is sad) or you can use it to boost your set.

Also agreed with Upavas.

It will indeed help you to be quicker etc.

However...as mentioned....if you going to reply on this...you gonna struggle with other genres.

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Posted : Apr 30, 2009 19:46
it's kinda funny to call "a technique" the fact that 1 bpm change roughly equals 0.7% - it something you notice while playing with decks long enough.

there are other very simple ways to get two tracks quickly aligned but imo what requires the real skill are those fine pitch corrections that keep two tracks going together over the breakdowns while pulling 3-4 minutes long transitions.
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