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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 16:05
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It's clear that the only solution you see is viable is for the Palestinians to stop all resistance and stay where they are, crammed into Gaza and under military rule in the West Bank. Only then do you say Israel should stop the violence. That's otherwise known as 'surrender', and totally ignores the injustices and breaches of international law perpetrated by the Israeli state since 1949, the justified desire of the Palestinian people to resist their occupation and the understandable desire of the Palestinian people for their own state in which they can live their lives in dignity, free from Israeli oppression and provocation.
That was a short-lived peace offering from you there, Yaron. I never even got a chance to reply to the misrepresentations it contained. Where have I ever referred to 'genocide' except as a potential (note: not 'probable') end-point of the current conflict or as a description of some of the stated views of Hamas leaders? Show me so I can apologise for being too hot-headed.
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TimeTraveller
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 16:07
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On 2014-08-14 11:12, TimeTraveller wrote:
If Israel wanted peace with arabs, we would have it for decades now.
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according to the political education this documentary gave me, barak wanted peace and was even ready for a big compromise to the advantage of the arabs. but arafat showed that he is not interested in peace but in the complete power of Allah over Jerusalem. And this is the real and simple problem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FEHqDG1EVHQ
The point is (imo) that terrorists will probably always continue with their actions as long as non-islamic religions coexist. Yes, indeed, this is my opinion, and i might be totally wrong, but this is based on my experience. How come i have read the islamic scriptures and i have been interested in this religion whereas i never met an "islamic" person who knows much about our culture and is interested on tolerating it?
I think it will be a real desaster if the world loses the immense herritage of hebrew culture just for the purpose of false "political peace" - false because in a situation of peace the arab world would probably only wait till the western world is bankrupt to strike back in the name of Allah. Or not?
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The western governments should invest in the 3rd world and spend our taxes for lives and not for bombs.
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yes, true. I think it is 100 times more important to look for a solution to this problem ( how to make our governments do the right thing ). simply because this is something we CAN do. we will reach nothing with antisemitic demonstration besides that the middle world will probably just become worse.
what i do not know is, why do the palestinians need to stay with their children in gaza and not move to safer places like all other war refugees in the west?
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I really thaought you make your own mind and not falling into all this islamophobic clishee that our western media is serving us all days.
Well I didn't wanna mention any religious books but since you mentioned that you read 'islamic scriptures' which I doubt you really did read it to the end, then how about jewish books? Did you get busy with some, you can find plenty messages to nonbelievers. Here is one of thousand sides that let inform you, feel welcome to spend a wonderful time by informing also on the other scriptures.
http://die-rote-pille.blogspot.de/2012/07/menschenfeindliche-zitate-aus-dem.html
and please lets not make it worse and stop mentioning religions and such. One can not let it though as you would like to stand it. However I'm out of any religious discussion here. There are good people and bad people everywhere. One of my best friends is a jew. Or was tbh. He is dead but I never forget him.
I find it pity that our western world is that much infected by the media with islamophobia.
I'm sorry if you had bad expiriences with arabs I had great ones. Maybe it's a bit cause of your islamophobic attitude.. And even if I would have a bad one I wouldn't be that naive to think they are all bad or possesed by devil or whatever and we need to support isreal with their licence/mission to kill all Palestinians.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 16:08
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no one is deluded in israel to think things will "stay where they are".
give up the fight, you will get a lot. colin i think you don't get how sick and tired of these palestinians we are here. we want nothing to do with them. stop your terror, get lands, leave us the fuck alone.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 16:10
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sorry for requoting myself, but i think you should read this again, cause you ignored it the first time. maybe it will help you in at least stopping your repetition of mantras. the situation as you see it, is not the true situation. it might have been in certain aspects up until a few years ago, but that has all been thrown out the window. alliances have been re-draw, big things happening in muslim world, rise of powers, fall of powers, interests have changed, thoughts have changed. yet you are stuck in 1995. :/
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right now christians, jews, muslims can all visit the holy places in jerusalem and elswhere. you want peace and stability right? a few dozen organizations fighting each other is what you will get.
today was reported jordan is also deciding to take action agaisnt the muslim brotherhood (father organization of hamas)... you think this will go down well? you think a fragile as fuck "palestine in between egypt, iraq, jordan andd syria has any chance of prospering and becoming an open society?
if you are really careful with reading betweent he lines, even Abbas and the PA's strategy right now is to hold ground and hope the muslim wars subside. the last thing they want now is to stand alone.
that push against hamas now came because hamas too know this and have tried to preasure egypt by provoking israel. there is a geo-political "game", and while it is 3D you keep falling to the mistake of looking at it in a linear fashion. word is egypt and abbas are pissed at israel for "not hurting hamas enough" thus letting hamas come to negotiate with an arrogant attitude.
in fact while you scream the protests of yesteryear there is now pretty much an aliging of interests between Israel-Egypt-Palestinian Authority-Jordan-Saudi Arabia
you are fighting a fight that i'm not sure exists even at the moment 
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stonedolphin
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 16:11
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faxinadu
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stonedolphin
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faxinadu
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 16:28
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thankful to live in israel, thankful israel is ironicaly safer than the uk, thankful for our economy that is better than the uk, our military that is better, our medicine that is better, our weather that is better, our women that are hotter, our food that is better, our morals that are better, and most of all thankful that the rates of crime of all types are no where near like in the uk. thankful islamic gangs don't roam the streets, thankful whole cities of poor drunk people on welfare is something we don't have here.... would live anywhere in israel, wouldn't live in luton, liverpool, bristol and all those holes if you payed me. super honest here.
i love israel <3
our problems with the arabs will be solved evetually, and then it will be a true paradise here for everyone, while in eruope you can continue your slow and steady economic death and cultural stagnation, problems with imigrants, left vs. right, human trafficing, failing cities, obsolete armies and useless governments, the queen of england, problems with russia...
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 16:32
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 16:35
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you can't have it both ways, imply we are below you moraly and then wheni refute it say i have an elitist attitude. this attitude is reactionary to YOUR complex.
where was your computer designed? your phone software? what forum are you on? it's you who empower it, it is you with the inferiority complex. you are the one obssesed with israel remember? who cares though. that vid made me smile, reminded me its not so bad here after all. at least we are facing our demons, you aren't aware of yours yet. blindly walking the plank, if you didn't deserve it i would be sad for you.
go to a british forum already ffs colin, again i will ask because i never get an answer, why are you here?
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Colin OOOD
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 16:38
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 16:40
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better for ME. it is MY life, and i chose to think for ME it is better here. and i chose to love this place and appreciate my life here.
just like you can berate this place, i can love this place and what it stands for. you might not like it, your problem.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 16:41
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so i live in israel colin so i spent time here on this topic. how many hours straight have you been on the pc here now? have you taken a pee break? your obssesion is just crazy. what about kurdistan dude? any thoughts asshole?
regardless of people like you, the sun will shine here tomorrow. keep cusading, lets see where that will lead you.
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faxinadu
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Posted : Aug 14, 2014 16:47
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lets face it, britain is a has been. an island with zero resources left that has leeched everything it has from the rest of the world by conquest, and now has been reduced to a resourceless island with way too many people and no political voice left. what a future leeching the little you can still leech until you decay like your grey cities and your rising islam into 1984esqe semi anarchy.
all that is left for british people is to point our what other countries are doing wrong, you are a pathetic society with nothing left to offer the world except judgment.
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colin you moving to luton mate? looks like you can make a lot of friends there