| Author
|
mauxuam should be banned from psy parties
|
Ellon
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
56
Posts :
1223
Posted : May 22, 2013 14:53
|
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-22 08:28, Upavas wrote:
Many interesting points have been raised in this thread. Here is another observation I have been making. A lot of the booking really only has to do with politics and who is more famous enough so their asshole can be sugar coated more. I have just played my first full on set here in BC and the people that were there really loved it, I had many really beautiful compliments regarding the quality and the composition of my sound which honestly surprised me. I simply had no idea myself, the reason, for now more than a year I have tried to get to play a life set of my own music on quite a few festivals here in British Columbia and except for the organizers of Alluvium to whom I am very grateful to give me a shot at it, no one here gave me so much as even a chance, I had been blown off again and again, with all kinds of stupid excuses. This in conjunction with the reaction people gave to my music once it played on a big rig made me realize that there is a status quo in this so called underground scene, it isn't necessarily about the quality of the music, it is about the names and the rank! It is about " is it sponge or is it Mauxam", it is about a status quo, no matter if you play a cd because you're too drugged to do a live set, as long as your band name is Alien Project you will be booked regardless. If this scene really was underground there would be less importance on politics and names and more importance on the quality an artist brings.
Last weekend was a big aha experience for me, and my final decision is simple, if someone like me wants to get booked on a regular basis there seems to be only one way to do it, and that is : make your own parties, there seems to be no other way... Unless you take the highway! I will keep on trying to get booked to parties in North America, in the meantime I would like to thank Mike aka Causai and Derek Michaels for being the only ones here in Vancouver who seem to defy the odds by allowing not so well known local talent a chance and a shot at wowing people!
|
|
Could not agree more. On the other hand one day the door opens and you're in...it's a matter of continuing doing your stuff and wait for oportunaties. Getting sour and angry (even if you're "right") doesnt work that well.
 
https://soundcloud.com/arglebarglemusic
http://soundcloud.com/turvytopsy
http://soundcloud.com/capecodplatform |
|
|
|
dick hardman
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
12
Posts :
369
Posted : May 22, 2013 21:57
|
Interesting how some people want to see psytrance grow to the proportion of other EDM scenes and others want it to go more underground and DIY.
|
|
|
|
Login
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
65
Posts :
1707
Posted : May 22, 2013 22:36
|
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-22 21:57, dick hardman wrote:
Interesting how some people want to see psytrance grow to the proportion of other EDM scenes and others want it to go more underground and DIY.
|
|
This I think is also part of the problem, many artist aspire to the booking/organizational structure of the other edm genres.
Many fans want to keep it under.
"The dedication to repetition — the search for nirvana in a single held tone or an endlessly cycling rhythm — is one of electronic music's noblest gestures." |
|
|
|
klippel
Stereofeld
Started Topics :
91
Posts :
1153
Posted : May 23, 2013 08:39
|
i think that is the very distilled problem right there. in a real underground scene as most people would want to see the psy scene to be there is nothing like well payed bookings or well organised partys with many thousands of people coming.. its run by enthusiasts without need for money. as soon as this starts to evolve into a more professionlised world it leaves the underground and dodgy people with greedy visions come to "help" organising events. guess who gets booked? the people that bring more guests and that are the "stars" of the scene.. like in any scene ever. there is virtually no music scene on this planet inside or outside edm where good but not known artists (there are zillions out there) are well payed. get over it, its life. its the basic rules of marketing as has been stated before. if you want to be outside of these rules, make your own partys.. or get well known... or you could just wait for the world to change.
http://www.ektoplazm.com/free-music/stereofeld-frequenzwechsel
"I've always been a believer in musical repetition to draw in the listener and make the music hypnotic. Another thing I believe in is repetition." Alan Parsons |
|
|
|
Upavas
Upavas
Started Topics :
150
Posts :
3315
Posted : May 24, 2013 02:30
|
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-22 14:02, Colin OOOD wrote:
Your sound absolutely rocks, Upavas, I'm not surprised you got lots of complements afterwards. Canada is one of the places OOOD has never been to. Maybe one day, when we're established enough that people have heard of us and and have worked on our sound enough so our music is good enough, we'll get a chance ;-)
|
|
I am very moved and grateful for your very nice compliment, many thanks Colin!
I guess we will have to work on getting the OOOD-ball rolling onto North American shores, hey, that would indeed be a blast!!!
@ Ellon: Not sour or angry at all, just resolved and as usual very direct here... 
Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com
http://upavas.com
http://soundcloud.com/upavas-1/ |
|
|
|
OzMike
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
148
Posts :
1681
Posted : May 24, 2013 02:51
|
Have been listening to Oood since the 90's. If this scene was properly run they should be a global phenomenon by now. aLive is one of my most respected CDs from back in the glory days.
Cuntus Maximus. |
|
|
|
Upavas
Upavas
Started Topics :
150
Posts :
3315
Posted : May 24, 2013 06:03
|
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-24 02:51, OzMike wrote:
Have been listening to Oood since the 90's. If this scene was properly run they should be a global phenomenon by now. aLive is one of my most respected CDs from back in the glory days.
|
|
100% agreed! Not only do their compositions rock, the sound quality of OOOD is something I and (I am sure) many others in here aspire to!
Upavas - Here And Now (Sangoma Rec.) new EP out Oct.29th, get it here:
http://timecode.bandcamp.com
http://upavas.com
http://soundcloud.com/upavas-1/ |
|
|
|
OzMike
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
148
Posts :
1681
Posted : May 24, 2013 08:42
|
|
Yup, I've really enjoyed Colin's mastering on other releases the last few years as well. Pure quality.
Cuntus Maximus. |
|
|
|
dick hardman
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
12
Posts :
369
Posted : May 24, 2013 20:51
|
Unfortunately, I'm afraid that OOD (OOOD? I can never remember. I hate to get it confused with OMD, though they did have a couple good hits  ). um, where was I. Ah yes. So I'm afraid that Colin and his band of merry men are not very well known, if at all, here in the states. If it weren't for Isratrance I wouldn't have heard of OOOD, though Spyros did have the previous album and played a track off it at a weekly and maybe the following big party. Other than that, the party goers themselves, at least in southern california, mainly the know big names from recent years, or classic names. So that's who gets booked as headliners and that's who the bulk of people go to party at (notice I said party at, cos they're really going for the party and when they know there'll be more people, the better (more chances of getting laid, seeing old friends etc).
So, yeah. OOOD needs to become more of household name in Israelis' kitchens and Brazilians' car stereos at the beach. And that's hard where there is no real central media for psytrance, let alone any regional scene info, 'cept fb groups or events. Isratrance, the 604 list may have been good in their time. (FB is too fragmented and not cohesive for larger readership.)
rambling, sorry
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-24 02:30, Upavas wrote:
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-22 14:02, Colin OOOD wrote:
Your sound absolutely rocks, Upavas, I'm not surprised you got lots of complements afterwards. Canada is one of the places OOOD has never been to. Maybe one day, when we're established enough that people have heard of us and and have worked on our sound enough so our music is good enough, we'll get a chance ;-)
|
|
I am very moved and grateful for your very nice compliment, many thanks Colin!
I guess we will have to work on getting the OOOD-ball rolling onto North American shores, hey, that would indeed be a blast!!!
@ Ellon: Not sour or angry at all, just resolved and as usual very direct here...
|
|
|
|
|
|
dick hardman
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
12
Posts :
369
Posted : May 24, 2013 20:52
|
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-24 02:51, OzMike wrote:
Have been listening to Oood since the 90's. If this scene was properly run they should be a global phenomenon by now. aLive is one of my most respected CDs from back in the glory days.
|
|
Yes! Exactly. They should be. What's the reason they're not? Less exposure playing out? Lack of central media?
|
|
|
|
Yidam
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
144
Posts :
3171
Posted : May 24, 2013 21:16
|
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-24 20:52, dick hardman wrote:
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-24 02:51, OzMike wrote:
Have been listening to Oood since the 90's. If this scene was properly run they should be a global phenomenon by now. aLive is one of my most respected CDs from back in the glory days.
|
|
Yes! Exactly. They should be. What's the reason they're not? Less exposure playing out? Lack of central media?
|
|
they should be playing 4 times as much considering the marketing trick promoters use with a lot of duos where only one member gets booked to represent the project.
|
|
|
|
Anyer
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
46
Posts :
696
Posted : May 24, 2013 22:15
|
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-24 21:16, Yidam wrote:
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-24 20:52, dick hardman wrote:
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-24 02:51, OzMike wrote:
Have been listening to Oood since the 90's. If this scene was properly run they should be a global phenomenon by now. aLive is one of my most respected CDs from back in the glory days.
|
|
Yes! Exactly. They should be. What's the reason they're not? Less exposure playing out? Lack of central media?
|
|
they should be playing 4 times as much considering the marketing trick promoters use with a lot of duos where only one member gets booked to represent the project.
|
|
yeah but OOOD Are 4 guys... all for the live act, and that's more killah than 2 fucks behind ableton shakin the hands on the air like retards.
DJ of Sourcecode
www.sourcecode.nu
A&R from Horns and Hoofs Entertainment
www.Hornsandhoofs.com
https://soundcloud.com/anyer_quantum |
|
|
|
Upavas
Upavas
Started Topics :
150
Posts :
3315
Posted : May 24, 2013 23:17
|
|
saintcarl
Started Topics :
2
Posts :
209
Posted : May 24, 2013 23:45
|
Well i have been OOOD fan since free range which is great and I live in the states (bay area).
I like the new album and you would be a dum dum not to love dum dum
never heard of mauxuam
|
|
|
|
Outolintu
IsraTrance Full Member
Started Topics :
63
Posts :
1477
Posted : May 24, 2013 23:48
|
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-24 22:15, Anyer wrote:
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-24 21:16, Yidam wrote:
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-24 20:52, dick hardman wrote:
Quote:
|
On 2013-05-24 02:51, OzMike wrote:
Have been listening to Oood since the 90's. If this scene was properly run they should be a global phenomenon by now.
|
|
They should be. What's the reason they're not?
|
|
they should be playing 4 times as much considering the marketing trick promoters use with a lot of duos where only one member gets booked to represent the project.
|
|
yeah but OOOD Are 4 guys... all for the live act.
|
|
well, there you have your reasons:
4 people and a live-act.
-4 peoples wages
-4 plane tickets
-2 hotel rooms
-all the equipment they need for the live-act
that's a lot of money and hassle.
suddenly 1 guy pushing play on a lap-top sounds like a wonderful idea to the promoter.
"no one ever sweats on a plug-in" -moby |
|
|
|
