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mauxuam should be banned from psy parties
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OzMike
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Posted : May 25, 2013 02:21
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I'm sure the Oood guys would accept a booking in the state for a DJ tour or for only a few members. I'm pretty sure it's not easy for the 4 members to get time off to tour anyway.
It's like my mate and his metal band, they get load s
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Beat Agency
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Posted : May 25, 2013 13:15
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When did this become a debate of OOOD and lack of bookings? Back to topic maybe? 
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OzMike
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Posted : May 25, 2013 14:36
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saintcarl
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Posted : May 25, 2013 15:03
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I p = Internet police?
I think OOOD and there bookings is somewhat related to this discussion. More interesting to me than some unknown cry baby.
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Posted : May 25, 2013 16:03
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On 2013-05-25 13:15, Beat Agency wrote:
When did this become a debate of OOOD and lack of bookings? Back to topic maybe?
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+1
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Beat Agency
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Posted : May 26, 2013 00:18
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On 2013-05-25 15:03, saintcarl wrote:
I p = Internet police?
I think OOOD and there bookings is somewhat related to this discussion. More interesting to me than some unknown cry baby.
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I'm sure you do 
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klippel
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Posted : May 26, 2013 13:55
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Ellon
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Posted : May 26, 2013 17:26
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On 2013-05-24 02:30, Upavas wrote:
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On 2013-05-22 14:02, Colin OOOD wrote:
Your sound absolutely rocks, Upavas, I'm not surprised you got lots of complements afterwards. Canada is one of the places OOOD has never been to. Maybe one day, when we're established enough that people have heard of us and and have worked on our sound enough so our music is good enough, we'll get a chance ;-)
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I am very moved and grateful for your very nice compliment, many thanks Colin!
I guess we will have to work on getting the OOOD-ball rolling onto North American shores, hey, that would indeed be a blast!!!
@ Ellon: Not sour or angry at all, just resolved and as usual very direct here... 
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The angry&sour part was more refering to Mauxuam...his attitude is a valid one for sure but not very promising in terms of getting there...if that's what he wants.
Congrats for the music...keep it going!!!
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Upavas
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Posted : May 27, 2013 00:41
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On 2013-05-26 17:26, Ellon wrote:
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On 2013-05-24 02:30, Upavas wrote:
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On 2013-05-22 14:02, Colin OOOD wrote:
Your sound absolutely rocks, Upavas, I'm not surprised you got lots of complements afterwards. Canada is one of the places OOOD has never been to. Maybe one day, when we're established enough that people have heard of us and and have worked on our sound enough so our music is good enough, we'll get a chance ;-)
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I am very moved and grateful for your very nice compliment, many thanks Colin!
I guess we will have to work on getting the OOOD-ball rolling onto North American shores, hey, that would indeed be a blast!!!
@ Ellon: Not sour or angry at all, just resolved and as usual very direct here...
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The angry&sour part was more refering to Mauxuam...his attitude is a valid one for sure but not very promising in terms of getting there...if that's what he wants.
Congrats for the music...keep it going!!!
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Many thanks, I am keeping it going for sure.
On another note:
I talked to a friend today who like me has been a part of the electronic Goa trance scene since it's beginning, in the mid 80s in Goa. Back then it was all some form of gangsters, but had a certain level of innocence, people were helping each other a bit more, not working so much against each other....
If you look closely, what once was an innocent underground movement, has become just like any other music genre.
Artists, are being ripped off by labels, everyone tries to assert their status OVER everyone else, egos are being blown way out of proportions, spiritual egos are very prevalent in this scene and there is some fantastic new talent out there that has way more interesting musical ideas than most of the established so called artists (e.g. Gataka, Ace Ventura and so on...), artists who are not so well known who get shoved under the bus.
This egomaniac style way is coherent throughout the psy scene today, people cannot work together anymore because who knows, someone might make better music and steal someone else the show, someone might cheat some other person, so better be careful...
It goes so far that two promoters in the same town don't work together because of differing values, that someone gets shot in the chest with a crossbow because of blown up egos and drugged out morons, (the latter is the extreme but happened this year in Germany)
What is missing these days from the psy scene is a sense of helping people without expectations, in order to help the scene itself.
This exact megalomania attitude is what destroyed the underground movement and created a commercial and politically motivated scene.
You are telling me there is no money in Psy? What about the festivals where 50.000 people pay big bucks to attend? They are making big bucks alright. Festivals like Boom, Sonica, Ozora, Vuuv... they did make bucks alright...
Then you're telling me there is no money in Psy labels? Shitali does not make money? I am sure he does!
If Parvati records made minus they would not be here today, yet they ARE here! So yes, they make money!
(Please note that I don't put Giuseppe and Shitali into the same boat because they happen to be in the same sentence!!! One is a bastard, the other one a label owner who according to other peeps seems to be correct in his dealings!)
But they almost all fail to understand that some day the page will turn a different way and that someday they might go under. And when they go under, after bullshitting other people in the scene in some way or rather,after ellbowing their way to the top and pushing other people out of the way and kick into their backs to get themselves ahead, they wonder why no one is there to help them out of the trouble. Take Wirikuta and Spiritzone as prime examples.
If there was a sense of community (wishful thinking as far as humanity is concerned, yet I say not impossible because if it can be conceived, it has the potential to happen) some of those downfalls could have be averted and this scene would be much better off than it is today.
It all sounds like wishful thinking, but if you look at the world today you will find that big business still acts like the economy is infinite, even though the world we live in is finite. It is the prevalent problem of our times, and as long as people fail to look at this without an ego standpoint, but start looking at this from a standpoint of helping everyone in order to help ones self, this will not change, be it the Psy scene or the rest of the world!
As it always has been, the choice is ours, each and everyone of us!
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tjaal
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Posted : May 27, 2013 05:32
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I Always think its weird how people connect the problems with the commercialization of the scene.
By what i saw of the beginning of the trance in Brazil, the problems were already there since the start. It was never an innocente movement.
The commercialization just revealed new problems.
I remember going to my first party in trancoso full of idealistic visions. Since i got there i was presented to a complete diferent Picture - banditism, fight between drug dealers, stealing, etc.. And it was long before the commercialization.
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Adigroovy
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Posted : May 27, 2013 15:53
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only thing what bothers me of all this is this fakeness and hypocrits. i already mentioned it before in another post, the one who dares to open his mouth and state some real facts about a festival or an organizer he/she directly becomes as an world enemy number 1.
What mauxaum has stated aboout some events, as case of freqs of nature i know it from other perosns as well and is pretty much the truth, but yeahh he is the one who has the balls and says it publicly others they say aswell but hidden and when they are asked about it in public they will say yeahh its killa fesyival great blabla just to lick some asses and get some bookings. this scene is full of ass lickers...
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Outolintu
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Posted : May 27, 2013 20:15
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On 2013-05-27 00:41, Upavas wrote:
And when they go under, after bullshitting other people in the scene in some way, they wonder why no one is there to help them out of the trouble. Take Wirikuta and Spiritzone as prime examples.
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so, what's the story behind spirit zones's demise? i haven't heard this story before! *grabs for the popcorn*
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Yidam
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Posted : May 27, 2013 20:49
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On 2013-05-27 15:53, Adigroovy wrote:
is pretty much the truth
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what is this truth ?
i think major setback is the hearsay, namecalling and drama based on some emotional problem, which is why maux was not being taken seriously even though he was trying to do the right thing.
it's all about some subjective take on incidents and a whole bunch of people enjoying reading the gossip. just like how mainstream media grabs attention today. if the facts were laid out in a cold and concise manner it would make more of a positive difference in the long run. till then this is all just a waste of time.
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MARGHERITA
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Posted : May 27, 2013 22:01
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Outolintu
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Posted : May 27, 2013 23:25
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On 2013-05-27 20:49, Yidam wrote:
it's all about some subjective take on incidents and a whole bunch of people enjoying reading the gossip. just like how mainstream media grabs attention today. if the facts were laid out in a cold and concise manner it would make more of a positive difference in the long run. till then this is all just a waste of time.
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yeah! please lay out the cold facts about spirit zone so i can enjoy my popcorn 
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