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Lockal djs dont get payed vol 2!!!

other_reality
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Posted : Apr 8, 2008 17:37
@Moonsun:

Nick, first of all I didn't say astrix is crap ! Or any other specific artist/dj or genre. If he/she has followers and has made a name, then for sure he has something to say. As I said in my previous post, I realise that people have different taste. Ofcourse they do, music is so wide in sounds, that there is something for everyone to like.

What I said was, in my effort to describe what I mean by crap music, that dj's who don't respect what they do play crap music in the end. Whatever they may play, astrix or antix, rastaliens or penta...or kalomoira

As for that somenone learns each time he plays, agreed. But he doesn't have to learn on my night out, or he shouldn't get payed !!! LOL....

Experimentation is done by a dj when he's alone, again agreed, but experimentation leads to skill, that should somehow get out, and leave the bedroom. Atleast if he wants to go pro.

Don't you see, going pro is all what it is about. The topic began in the first place, to cover the reasons of local dj's not getting paid. The straight answer is this : If you're willing to get payed each time you play, you need to be on a level of professionalism. If you're willing to have mindless fun, and just spin your playlists for your pleasure, and that of your friends, than most probably you wont get payed.

The level of being pro, is not only about your music and skills. It also depends on your communication skills, and personal charisma. You may be the best skilled psy-trance deck wizard on the planet, but if you cannot make a deal, this will stay forever with you ending up being unpaid. Next time you get a call, and you're feeling like it, sort out the money thing first, if that's what bothers you. If you can't be sure, coz of the promoter or organizer, than just say you're sorry, but you don't play for free. Simple as that. If you like to play for free, for your own reasons, then explain again, and make them know you're doing them a favor.

Personally, I just say these things for the people who are bothered by not getting paid. My own belief, is that occasional dj'ing shouldn't be made on the basis of money, and mostly should be done at free parties, where the party just needs to make its expenses. Mainly for artistic reasons, or just plain fun. If you're involved with big parties, which make money, and you're part of it, then for sure go for it. Even more if they ask you to bring people in it. But just make sure who you're dealing with, and do yourself some justice by first covering your personal needs.

And, I hate being misunderstood all the time. I have played several times for free, for small/medium sized psy parties, I have made some of my own, with free entrances all the time, and I'm until now releasing my own music for free on the internet. It's anything but the money for me until now, and I never bothered coz music is fun for me, and not money. I'm just saying, if you like to see euros out of this, you got to change your attitude.
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CRX(HSS Records)
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Posted : Apr 12, 2008 13:09
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On 2008-04-06 04:26, other_reality wrote:
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On 2008-04-04 16:32, CRX(HSS Records) wrote:
the people who has exclusive Djsets or represent a label or have a big selection of original is obligatory to get payed by promoters
if someone wants to play with his downloaded tracklist from e-mule must not play in the first place but if he/she plays then no payment
thats my opinion
also promoters bring people and djs take care of the console
Djs are not insurance salesmen to get crowds to party organizations they have other jobs




LOL...If the "downloaded tracklist" is from Torrent, is it ok then ? Get real, almost everyone is downloading music, esp. "greek local dj's"...



why do u laugh boy?did I say something wrong?

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AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Apr 14, 2008 15:19
Aha so we must put the security at the door to search if the djs have Original cds or Mp3 from e-mule or torrent?
If i have promos from electro public can i get payed?
          [b]osobuko/b]
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toti

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Posted : Apr 14, 2008 17:08
vre tumpa rave this topic has nothing to do with u
its well known that u dont get paid by velis.
there are so many topics that u can write something.thast for now,i hope u ll think before answering beacause as u see i dotn write down everything...

AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Apr 14, 2008 17:50
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On 2008-04-14 17:08, toti wrote:
its well known that u dont get paid by velis.


probably you have good akres and you know about the dealing that i have with velis.
So i have nothing to say to you.
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Posted : Apr 14, 2008 21:05
its a good thing that people that dont produce music(but only make noise) stop spamming this disc. thanx
toti

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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 10:52
its not top secret nikos...and i dont care about your deals of payment.its just too funny u to have the most posts in this topic.i think i made myself clear..
AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 11:28
Sorry man about my posts.
den tha to ksana kanw!!           [b]osobuko/b]
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MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records

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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 11:36
djs is disc jockey
artist is some that makes music



what is this topic about again ?
dj or artists im comfused?
toti

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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 12:14
i am huppy that we agreed as always at the end nikos.as for moonsun try man its not so dificult.look above.locals dont get paid....
MOONSUN-RECORDS.gr
Moonsun Records

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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 12:20
yes but djs and artists are diffrent prices
and when u ask 200 euros as resident dj is ok
but as artists is not and no 1 has put if they play live for
this or dj set this why im cofused
toti

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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 12:32
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but as artists is not and no 1 has put if they play live for
this or dj set this why im cofused

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?i try to see what do u mean but i find many dificulties man.i am confused too.
xrust
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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 12:38
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?i try to see what do u mean but i find many dificulties man.i am confused too.


ohh come on toti,confused?why man?
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AbsolutZero(D.V.M.)
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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 13:40
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On 2008-04-15 12:38, xrust wrote:
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?i try to see what do u mean but i find many dificulties man.i am confused too.


ohh come on toti,confused?why man?




Wonder why too!!!
(sorry for the post)           [b]osobuko/b]
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toti

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Posted : Apr 15, 2008 13:44
if u understand what moosun wanted to say tell us also nikos.
dont be sory.yet.......
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