| Author
|
Israeli members racist comments on party reviews- is it really necessary?
|
Rephlex
Started Topics :
8
Posts :
53
Posted : Sep 27, 2005 21:38
|
|
I already wrote a huge thread about that horrible party and I dont want to write the whole story again. but basically I told the guy (who happened to be arab) that a friend of mine was my girlfriend so that he stoped bothering her. so in he just came back with 5 friends to kick my ass for no good reason and we ended up fighting and with the back window of the car broken. trying to escape the party. i mean i also thought before that we should all be brothers and dance and forget about race or color but cmon how can I do that if these things tend to happen... ? |
|
|
shahar
IsraTrance Team
Started Topics :
155
Posts :
2035
Posted : Sep 28, 2005 10:16
|
Quote:
|
On 2005-09-27 21:38, Rephlex wrote:
i mean i also thought before that we should all be brothers and dance and forget about race or color but cmon how can I do that if these things tend to happen... ?
|
|
Rephlex, I'll be more precise- I'm interested to know how this has changed your thinking of Arabs, as you said in your previous post.
I'm not trying to be a wise-ass or anything, I honestly want to see how these remarks evolve, where they come from, and are they racist as some here feel or not as some others do. I think if we check this together we can learn more.
Of course it's your private thoughts here, so if you don't feel like having this public discussion here, that's cool, and sorry for trying to get into your head 
PS
Yuli, I didn't demand anything from anyone- I just asked a question, that's a nice way to converse and I believe I can learn things like that. ---------------------------------------------
"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
M.K. Gandhi
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley
|
|
|
|
psy soul
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
15
Posts :
275
Posted : Sep 28, 2005 16:31
|
Hello Psy Friends...
i am from INDIA and i spent good hour to 2 reading this post....
m sorry if i am writing on this post if i am not supposed toooo....but just inquisitive to know what do you mean by all these terms like:
ars ;;;;;where do they come from
arabs :::: arabs from where...
Shimons :::: again where do they come from...
and are al of them trouble makers...
just little curios to knowww....
apologies again if i am getting into something that i am not supoosed tooo..
PLUR
Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator, but among
those whom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh. |
|
|
|
Ben P
Started Topics :
5
Posts :
259
Posted : Sep 28, 2005 16:49
|
@psy soul
ars=shimon =israeli trouble maker
arabs=israeli arabs
quote
"and are al of them trouble makers... "
that what this theard about.
not all of theme are trouble makers. some are. too many  |
|
|
|
GuyShanti
Aerospace
Started Topics :
112
Posts :
877
Posted : Sep 28, 2005 17:10
|
a word of warning: this post contains racics gerelasiations and comments, strong words and some ppl may find it offensive.
I am not a racist: I have quite a fewe good Arab friends. I also have af few Ruski friends and a few arsim friends of various ethnic groups.
but I hate Arabs and Russians and Arsim of Various Ethnic groups that make parties into nightmares.
Generalisation time: when Arabs or Russians or AOVEG's (u guessed it - arsim of various ethnic groups) get together, their idea of fun is to mess up other's fun. others bein us - Normal PPl who like to go to the party and enjoy what it has to offer.
we, the normal ppl dont like to do the following things:
rob the bar
rob the entrance ppl
sell baloons
fight with other ballon sellers
stab ppl
bring guns to parties
steal dj's cases
threaten the dj's to change the music
harras girls
break in to cars
steal the deco
steal the sound system or parts of it
the Arsim of Various Ethnic Groups love to do the list above. and like to do it as frequently as possible.
Genneralisation time 2:
the majority of trance party Arab goers are Arsim. when they come to a party most likely there will be some kind of trouble. I have seen it many times. my case was almost snached from my hands by arabs twice in the past. I have seen ppl get stabed, parties robbed, bloddy fights between ballon sellers (who are ALL AOVEGs), i have seen girls in tears after being harrased by AOVEG etc etc etc.....
so excuse me that i dont want to see them in parties. excuse me that I want a peacefull and enjoyable time in the party. excuse me fo being a racist bastard but i think i earned the right to be one, just bcuz that in my 8 years of active partying i have seen too few examples of the OPPOZITE.
G
http://www.myspace.com/aerospacemusic
Aerospace – Re Entry EP on beatport.com
https://www.beatport.com/en-US/html/content/release/detail/276014/Re%20Entry%20EP |
|
|
|
psy soul
IsraTrance Junior Member
Started Topics :
15
Posts :
275
Posted : Sep 28, 2005 17:12
|
Thanks Ben ....
ars & Shimon are both the same people ... i guess i met 2 of these guys for new years in Mumbai and then Goa....they were good when they were in Mumbai but when i met them in goa they were a little weird tho showing their a*& at a party at 9 bar and dancing like maniacs...but they didn't cause harm to no one....hey am i sounding like i am criticising sum1 if i am ...apologies...
Among those whom I like or admire, I can find no common denominator, but among
those whom I love, I can: all of them make me laugh. |
|
|
|
Ben P
Started Topics :
5
Posts :
259
Posted : Sep 28, 2005 20:06
|
@psy soul
if they didnt harm anyone i guses they are ok atleast they are not the bad arses ppl here talk about |
|
|
|
Yuli
Retired
Started Topics :
40
Posts :
1660
Posted : Sep 29, 2005 13:26
|
Quote:
|
On 2005-09-28 17:10, GuyShanti wrote:
a word of warning: this post contains racics gerelasiations and comments, strong words and some ppl may find it offensive.
I am not a racist: I have quite a fewe good Arab friends. I also have af few Ruski friends and a few arsim friends of various ethnic groups.
but I hate Arabs and Russians and Arsim of Various Ethnic groups that make parties into nightmares.
Generalisation time: when Arabs or Russians or AOVEG's (u guessed it - arsim of various ethnic groups) get together, their idea of fun is to mess up other's fun. others bein us - Normal PPl who like to go to the party and enjoy what it has to offer.
we, the normal ppl dont like to do the following things:
rob the bar
rob the entrance ppl
sell baloons
fight with other ballon sellers
stab ppl
bring guns to parties
steal dj's cases
threaten the dj's to change the music
harras girls
break in to cars
steal the deco
steal the sound system or parts of it
the Arsim of Various Ethnic Groups love to do the list above. and like to do it as frequently as possible.
Genneralisation time 2:
the majority of trance party Arab goers are Arsim. when they come to a party most likely there will be some kind of trouble. I have seen it many times. my case was almost snached from my hands by arabs twice in the past. I have seen ppl get stabed, parties robbed, bloddy fights between ballon sellers (who are ALL AOVEGs), i have seen girls in tears after being harrased by AOVEG etc etc etc.....
so excuse me that i dont want to see them in parties. excuse me that I want a peacefull and enjoyable time in the party. excuse me fo being a racist bastard but i think i earned the right to be one, just bcuz that in my 8 years of active partying i have seen too few examples of the OPPOZITE.
G
|
|
Great post I back u up Guy on everything u have written here. No hypocracy in your post that is the way to do it and that is why I like it. Its about time that ppl will look at what they see and recognize it - if it's good it's great if it's bad too bad but this is life. Way to go Shanti
A man with a "master plan" is often a woman |
|
|
|
HandA
Inactive User
Started Topics :
9
Posts :
890
Posted : Sep 29, 2005 13:33
|
|
as long as you remember not to stigmatise all arabs, israelis, danish, german, americans, zulu's etc... I guess some of you dont do it and and know it's wrong and then others havent really understood the idea of not generalising. |
|
|
|
shahar
IsraTrance Team
Started Topics :
155
Posts :
2035
Posted : Sep 29, 2005 15:13
|
Shanti, your post is an excellent example of a non-racist post, so I think you have nothing to appologize for, you Ukranian bastard
---------------------------------------------
"Be the change you want to see in the world!"
M.K. Gandhi
"There is only one corner of the universe you can be certain of improving, and that's your own self."
Aldous Huxley
|
|
|
|
Cyber Punk
IsraTrance Team
Started Topics :
29
Posts :
759
Posted : Sep 29, 2005 15:40
|
Yeah, for the sake of "the political correctness", Nigeria from now on will be called Afro-America !
-=Lead System Designer=- |
|
|
|
HandA
Inactive User
Started Topics :
9
Posts :
890
Posted : Sep 29, 2005 16:22
|
Quote:
|
On 2005-09-29 15:40, Cyber Punk wrote:
Yeah, for the sake of "the political correctness", Nigeria from now on will be called Afro-America !
|
|
Actually calling a person from Nigeria an Afro American would be highly insulting for many reasons. |
|
|
|
Cyber Punk
IsraTrance Team
Started Topics :
29
Posts :
759
Posted : Sep 29, 2005 16:37
|
And ? 
-=Lead System Designer=- |
|
|
|
Yuli
Retired
Started Topics :
40
Posts :
1660
Posted : Sep 29, 2005 17:38
|
Quote:
|
On 2005-09-29 13:33, HandA wrote:
as long as you remember not to stigmatise all arabs, israelis, danish, german, americans, zulu's etc... I guess some of you dont do it and and know it's wrong and then others havent really understood the idea of not generalising.
|
|
Yes Teacher, I tried to be a good student and to understand the lesson altho in practice it is not that easy to apply, I will try hard to remember it next time some drunken Ars/Arab/Russian/Zulu will want to cut me up for not putting the right music.
Quote:
|
Shanti, your post is an excellent example of a non-racist post, so I think you have nothing to appologize for, you Ukranian bastard
|
|
So I guess the debate is over we can close the thread and go home  and Shanti is really a bastard. It is a good spot to mention it
A man with a "master plan" is often a woman |
|
|
|
Yuli
Retired
Started Topics :
40
Posts :
1660
Posted : Sep 29, 2005 17:48
|
One more thing tho that maybe will keep this thread alive or on fire muhaha
Seriously tho...
It is kinda weird to see foreigners participating in completely Israeli debates not connected to trance almost, such as this. ( All of u understand hopefully that this thread applies to life in Israel generally and the Trance situation is merely a micro cosmos of what happening in our country ). I really can't understand that from 2 reasons:
1. Are they that well paid so they have the extra time to go into Israeli forum and read all those topics that with all the respect to the fact they visited Israel in the past and even lived here for a while, is someone elses business alltogether.. IMO ofcourse
2. One needs to be so sure of himself to go to ppl with different metality and culture to tell them how to live their lives. It is an equivalent to me going to the Ozzy forum and start bashing them for being racist towards aboriginess till the 1970's or to the Greek forum and critisize their food for being with too much olive oil inside. WHY always the souvlaki is soaked with oil?
It's not that I am against it at all, I just wonder how bored one person can be to spend so much time on something that doesnt concern with him ( maybe a tiny tiny tiny bit of it does )
But still - opinions?
A man with a "master plan" is often a woman |
|
|
|
