IS this how psytrance label owners make $$$ (brace yourself)

On 2006-10-23 21:34, thegooddale wrote:

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On 2006-10-23 21:15, Jeto wrote: If it has a chance to grow why not?

A few examples in particular that I can think of that are valid reasons why not...

the current state of "Punk rock"
the current state of "Metal"

both genres have been so homogenized by the music business that I just don't even listen anymore when one of my friends tells me of some new band that inevitably has both the words "black" and "the" in there name that are really killer and so original... It is all the same. There are a handful of bands pulling off the major label thing and keeping any sense of originality. The majority of bands that are putting out interesting music in these genres are self-releasing or releasing on indepent labels due specifically to these reasons. I hated seeing this happen, and I am hating seeing it happen already very rampantly in the psytrance scene. It is a very quick decline.

So, although I am not against the psytrance community growing, we have to be very careful that it grows up right... We don't want our kid turning into an obnoxious asshole do we?

On 2006-10-23 22:36, Takuan"the pickled radish" wrote:
so anyhow this is really my point! please anyone who really want there music art whatever being distroed to these places say I .....I always thought you could only get this music threw saiko and psyshop or friends youve made underground thats what is so beautifull bout my collection of cds mostly they come from friends and psy distributers like geomagnetic.tv underground! we have ennough of us inn this scene to all prosper and have plenty of plenty we dont need this kind of distro I know i dont want to see this shit get out of hand so pls no personal attack RICH ou have my number call me this is childish and as far as the airbed I have a hurniated disk I needed a airbed so i didnt have to sleep on the wooden deck I since then have taken up chiropractic yoga and been taken better care of this by not being lazy and fixing it (which ive been ispired to do by well they know who they are)i dont need that airthingy from walmart

On 2006-10-23 22:46, Jeto wrote:

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On 2006-10-23 22:36, Takuan"the pickled radish" wrote: so anyhow this is really my point! please anyone who really want there music art whatever being distroed to these places say I .....I always thought you could only get this music threw saiko and psyshop or friends youve made underground thats what is so beautifull bout my collection of cds mostly they come from friends and psy distributers like geomagnetic.tv underground! we have ennough of us inn this scene to all prosper and have plenty of plenty we dont need this kind of distro I know i dont want to see this shit get out of hand so pls no personal attack RICH ou have my number call me this is childish and as far as the airbed I have a hurniated disk I needed a airbed so i didnt have to sleep on the wooden deck I since then have taken up chiropractic yoga and been taken better care of this by not being lazy and fixing it (which ive been ispired to do by well they know who they are)i dont need that airthingy from walmart

Theres nothing you can do about it. Its called evolution... Maybe its not as big in the US, yet. but I dont think by starting this thread its going to stop it from getting big and being ditributed in stores. Look at other countries in the world. The info is out there... Saikosounds isnt underground neither is psyshop. Its on the world wide web. Anyone who does a google search can find it.


edit: in my opinion the "underground" is the stuff thats unreleased, the people that get that is the people who are in contact with the artists directly and get the music like that. anything thats released is fair game.

On 2006-10-23 23:05, thegooddale wrote:

I think you are absolutely wrong on this. I think that if this were the evolution and future of the scene, that there would be alot more labels playing ball already. I think this is simply a case of a couple of label owners making a big mistake.

On 2006-10-23 21:05, thegooddale wrote:

I would think with all of the politically edged content of the last acidance release that you of all people would not want to see money from psytrance sales going to companies such as these...

On 2006-10-23 23:28, alchemism wrote:
Generally speaking, though, seeking larger audiences for psytrance in America is very, very unwise.

On 2006-10-23 23:28, alchemism wrote:
Getting new people into the scene is good and all, but the *PSY*trance experience is a bit more than just a typical night out in the local music scene. Is the American mass-consumer audience truly worth chasing? For every one true trance-soul you find, there will be ten pop-loving idiots to wade through.

Its happened before. Over-popularization killed the hippie movement back in the sixties. Once the little Jane and Johnny Heartlands started frying their brains on acid, the social crackdown wasn't far behind. Hell, I bet most of the "causalities of the sixties" were probably kids who shouldn't have been experimenting in the first place.

But that is more of a general concern. The chances of any such catastrophe occurring because of a few tracks on walmart.com is slim. Generally speaking, though, seeking larger audiences for psytrance in America is very, very unwise.

On 2006-10-24 01:38, Jeto wrote:
im sorry but i dont agree...

who are you.. to me your just anyone... so your not worthy of psytrance? is this your argument?

i think its more of an elitist attitude... that is not what this person means

psytrance is abotu a psychedelic experience?

i dont have any psychedelic experience when listening to it. unless the atmosphere is psychedelic.

then you better tune in or something