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Is the music getting more psychedelic?

Bom*shankar
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Posted : May 14, 2006 19:46
This I found out is a very personal thing. Many ppl who discovered shpongle not long ago can get very excited about a release that for me, as someone who discoverd this kind of music with mystical experiences 10 years ago, is a clone and usually much much less interesting than the original.

Personally I feel most artists and labels are stuck and do not try to develop and go new places- like ultima that with the exception of albedo- all their releases sound the same pretty much and like they sounded 2 years ago- why buy something I already have? And it's just an example. Even Shpongle as a project is completely stuck and the last album was just boring.

Psychedelic for me is something that take your mind somewhere else, that make you feel like the reality around you is changed. so it has to have an element of something different to do that- if music already sounds like something you know it cannot happen.

So for me anything that is too shpongle is not psychedelic.

The labels that I really find innovating from this 'scene' are Aleph Zero and Native States, each in a diferent way, and also virtual of ishq.

It's true I find a lot of things in other 'scenes'- sometimes only new for me maybe as I'm not familiar with these kinds of music.

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andrew interchill
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Posted : May 14, 2006 22:49
Maux...

the point about overt art was not directed at your music...or your posts...

what i was trying to get at was that in my opinion there is a deeper impact with art that does not explain or declare itself... music that just is... paintings that just are what they are, rather than being declared visionary or psy or whatever you want...

what i mean by "explain" is that each style and subgenre has its conventions... the drum roll, the terrence sample, the absence of piano, the gated vocal... and so on...

so if an artist packs all these ingredients consistently into their creation they are kind of giving an identity to their work...

ultimately i think the best works avoid the conventional, and as bom shankar says, they incorporate elements of something different and unexpected

i also like music to have colour... 2 days of glitch would totally do my head in...send me in search of a dub bassline, sunlight and a cold beer

but hey, it is a free world... people can download, copy or buy whatever pleases them... all we are doing here is expressing opinions

transformation is only really possible if you combine different elements... mutate the conventions and fuse them together into new hybrids... exploring liminal spaces...









maux
Mauxuam

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Posted : May 16, 2006 13:05
...but usually hybrids are sterile, that'a a law of nature.
Justin Chaos
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Posted : May 16, 2006 14:50
Quote:

On 2006-05-14 16:18, maux wrote:
...and chill music is more and more faking it...falling back into the retro, the kitsch, the neo-conservative, the corporate facsimile...pretending to be elegant with his enanched empty coolness.


Amen
          My fake plants died, because I did not pretend to water them.
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