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Is the music getting more psychedelic?
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furthur
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Posted : May 11, 2006 07:50
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there might be a standard psy-chill sound
i don't own any of it, so i wouldn't know
start buying from other sources if you are getting bored of the music you buy.
there isn't just saikosounds, amboworld, and psyshop that sell music online, you know
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sure_smoke_alot
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Posted : May 11, 2006 08:47
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On 2006-05-11 07:50, furthur wrote:
there might be a standard psy-chill sound
i don't own any of it, so i wouldn't know
start buying from other sources if you are getting bored of the music you buy.
there isn't just saikosounds, amboworld, and psyshop that sell music online, you know
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bro plz enlighten on the other sources as well it'll be highly appricited 
let us also 'feel the bliss' 
the problem with valuing art is, till u dont understand it, it's worthless but wen u do understand it, it's priceless!! |
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Pt.
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Posted : May 11, 2006 13:02
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I'm sorry, I can see why my post confused you about what I ment to say furthur. What I ment in easy terms, is that this soundscape that Shulman, Enthyogenic and the others use is getting to "big". Everyone seems to be producing "that" kind of chill these days, and as it grows, it will also soon die. Of course one can still find brilliant and "different" releases such as Adam Shaikh and his posse crew. But that wasnt my point. My point is that "that" sound is getting to used and to popular. If psy-chill is getting more psychedelic was the question asked by FD. My opinion sais that no, it isnt, but that "shulman" sound is getting used more and more and more. oh my. Maybe I have no point and I'm making a fool out of my self
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On 2006-05-11 07:50, furthur wrote:
there might be a standard psy-chill sound
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Which is getting abused and used over and over again. Echoing it self.
In Norway we have an expression which is pretty good. It's called "Kos med missnøye" which means that people in general like to complain about things. I guess I was just bitching to bitch. Bad human habbit. (No, acctually, I wasnt complaining. Just a remark about the "evolution" within psy-chill.)
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kukan-dub-lagan/ItaiTaiko
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Posted : May 11, 2006 14:30
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i think that many good artist always try to devolope their stuff more and more...
i promise you that i do my best to make kind of "different" style as much as i can-always and forever...
Check out my music page - free music , new style and more :) |
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Pt.
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Posted : May 11, 2006 15:01
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You do you do And your album always gives me a delight feeling of cartoonish peace while on a trip.
Very special and unique feelings. So I applaud that. =)
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ajdgroot
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Posted : May 11, 2006 17:07
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Personally i like a more psychedelic psy-chill whatever that means. It's so hard to categorize this music anyway. But every genre has it's gems. Important thing is that the growing group of respected artists on this board keep progressing and make music they still dig themselves. And they are doing it for only a select group of wonderful people and that's a fantastic gift. I think there is enough variety still to please different tastes. |
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g/\8!
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Posted : May 11, 2006 20:09
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i understand psytones...its more and more usual to arrive to a chill and listen to that 100 bpm pum pum ppuuum p p puuuum....voices:i am your psychedelic hallucinations etc etc... and i agree when you say that that acid feeling its totally lost in order to expansion that more like POP feeling...but you know now it seems to me that production sometimes its more important than the music itself=high tech production/boring music hummmm....hei rui dont feel bad about my question i respect what you like and i dont want to know it to say bad about what you like or not............but someway i was following all the music connected to trance states and ritual/inner travel feelings for years now and i really ask myself why pete namlook NEVER DID A CONCERT in portugal?or FSOL?the proof for what i say is in the conversations about music where i feel to exist a relevant lack of research in people always make me remember friends who got attached to the k&d,thievery corp,portishead holy trinity forever......i just want to make people question their limit of search and research like someone said if you want to stay in the underground u have to dig deeper.......................peace boys |
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Rui Ferreira
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Posted : May 11, 2006 23:32
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hey g/\8 that´s a good point about FSOL... i would love to see them live |
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Posted : May 12, 2006 01:12
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I have a very similar feeling to g/8. Although I have to say that I love the shpongle sound of the first generation and all this mystery of the yeti stuff, and I also love Shulmans records. But I know what g/8 means when he says the acid feeling is gone. Back in the 90s I was a big fan of FSOL and The Orb (who made some of the greatest ambient records ever, like pomme fritz and blue room and many others), but I guess that's just the way it happens: Music changes and new things evolve.
I feel the same for modern chill out music: I think it is getting a bit boring and it's the same again and again. But I don't know if that's also true for someone who just discovers music beyond the mainstream. Maybe in a few years people will say that they want music back with the greatness of Androcell...
It's the process of getting known to feelings and patterns that can exist in music, one comes to the point where he just understands how it works in general, and that makes it boring. The fact that I think otherwise about music of the past is based on the memories that I have on my reactions to this music in past days.
When people get older they ALWAYS say that music was better in the past. Me too. But that's perhaps not true, you never know... |
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Rui Ferreira
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Posted : May 12, 2006 14:16
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On 2006-05-12 01:12, our man in nirvana wrote:
When people get older they ALWAYS say that music was better in the past. Me too. But that's perhaps not true, you never know...
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well i am almost 30 now and started listen to this music in the mid ninteens, and don't think is getting boring at all...however i do miss the feeling from the ninteens aswell, but we have to leave with that
big up to all the new generation!
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squ1d
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Posted : May 12, 2006 20:22
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I do agree that the acid feeling is gone. Everything is more organic, more shroomy than acidic if you know what i mean...
The best example i can give is the difference beetween TIP - Mystical Experiences and well, and anything you see released this days.. The acid feeling is totally gone. But i like the shroomy feeling too 
Chill will still be the most psychedelic branch of psychedelic electronic music as long as we dont evolve into crap. Which can happen.. And i wont give examples because everyone knows them lol. |
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maux
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Posted : May 12, 2006 20:52
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oi oi...maybe is a question of not enough lsd around and tons of white powders,
maybe is the outside reality so square that there are no more creative inputs for the inner trip,
maybe the all scene is not underground anymore and become very mediocre and spoiled, and a bit greedy and grided.
or maybe is because the labels are more and MORE requesting to the producers a non psy/acid sound to fit better in the iTunes MS, HMV shops and new age lounges,
or maybe too many plug ins...and presets...and copy/paste attitude...and samples...
and computers (for sure),
and this is amazingly evident when u see the so called live sets where u never know if the dude on stage is checking his emails or shopping on ebay while is moving that magic mouse,
as you say g/8 (sorry I can't find that key on my keyboard) there is lot of ppl over here stuck with the holy trinity of splongle/ott/entheogenic (with all the respect for those giants and their expensive Eventides)
and we are all so confortably numb that we can't be bodered anymore to dig any further.
imagine Infected Mushroom burning the Israel flag on stage as Jimi Hendrix did with the US one... |
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andrew interchill
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Posted : May 14, 2006 02:32
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a lot of people seem to feel that the psy thing has been done to death...
i'm seeing this opinion expressed by reviewers, labels, A&R's, dj's, radio...
you can also see some new musical trends capturing people's imagination too - more intelligent , glitchy, introspective and peaceful sounds a la beneath the surface / shulman...
one of the big issues for me is how overt something is... psy music is so overt...in your face with it's supposed enhanced authenticity.
the reason for asking for non psy sounds is because the psy thing is mostly old news, conventional and predictable.
when we compile, we're trying to imagine what will sound fresh to us [to us] 9 -12 months down the line when the cd is released... we also bear in mind what's been done already...and what territory could use a revisit
interesting and a little suprising for me to see our album dissolving clouds, which is fairly un-commercial being programmed into a special feature on itunes US/UK/Europe again 9 months after release...
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furthur
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Posted : May 14, 2006 14:18
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so let me see if i understood the definition of acidic well
non-organic, outer space soundscapes?
and if something is organic with maybe a human voice being used musically as opposed to delivering some silly cliche on how drugs take us out of this world, then it is not psychedelic?
in this case, i have nothing else to contribute to this conversation
to me, something is psychedelic if the music can bring me somewhere.
if it keeps on bringing me to the same place over and over again, i will stop listening to it.
at suresmokealot:
for sources, i am not home now and cannot see the bookmarks, but boomkat, backroadsmusic come to mind
however, try to find yourself a university with a strong music faculty and get their library card
lots of music there
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maux
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Posted : May 14, 2006 16:18
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dear Andrew, excuse me if I am too overt for you but for me is the all chill thing that is boring to death...and sounds just predictable entertainment as much as the classic psy sound that I agree is dead with no hope...like everything that is repeating itself with so much self indulgence.
and the so called glitchy sounds become unsurprinsing very fast...they seem to be already at the bottom of the line...and anyway not so innovative after ppl like Autechre and Aphex did that kind of stuff with much more acidic and research attitude many years ago.
and I can say that after a 2 day festival of those intelligent sounds where I just did a vjset...I was really ready for something with more fantasy and colours...and yes, more acidic.
I can't really explaine what acidic is for me...I think that or you have it inside or you don't...and is not an exclusivity of any music genre, or 303 line.
I totally agree that the usual chiche about drugs taking you to outerspace are silly, but don't make confusion,
psychedelics are not drugs, are mind&soul expanders (it does sound predictable and uncool but it's still very true)...a drug is something different, creating addiction, like tabacco and sugar do...and I can feel an oversweetened taste in those silky organic vocal melodies that make me sink in the sofa, instead of taking me anywhere.
the big issue for me is how fake something is...and chill music is more and more faking it...falling back into the retro, the kitsch, the neo-conservative, the corporate facsimile...pretending to be elegant with his enanched empty coolness. |
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