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Infected Mushroom - Legend Of The Black Shawarma {Perfecto Rec,/Hommega Rec.}

KINO OKO
Bigwigs

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Posts :  345
Posted : Sep 11, 2009 17:10
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But you are not Infected Mushroom. So making a hypothesis on what actions you would take, "if" being Infected is utterly useless




that was a hypothesis. I mean, talking in simply words, that remix is good because original song is strong. It is so strong that the rest of tracks can be percieved as weak.

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To me the intention behind the making of a particular track or album has no effect on my listening experience, or the consideration if it is art or not. To me the present experience is art, it's life, it's vital. Music is art in the essence, regardless for what underlying resons it has been produced. This is my humble opinion.



but i hope you can imagine that somebody record a music to earn money, right? I easly can. Things you are talking about:it's life, it's vital, music is art in the essence etc don't apply on such state.           www.kinooko.pl
Melancholyman
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 11, 2009 18:11
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On 2009-09-11 17:10, KINO OKO wrote:
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But you are not Infected Mushroom. So making a hypothesis on what actions you would take, "if" being Infected is utterly useless




that was a hypothesis. I mean, talking in simply words, that remix is good because original song is strong. It is so strong that the rest of tracks can be percieved as weak.

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To me the intention behind the making of a particular track or album has no effect on my listening experience, or the consideration if it is art or not. To me the present experience is art, it's life, it's vital. Music is art in the essence, regardless for what underlying resons it has been produced. This is my humble opinion.



but i hope you can imagine that somebody record a music to earn money, right? I easly can. Things you are talking about:it's life, it's vital, music is art in the essence etc don't apply on such state.




On you're first answer:
Ok that I udnerstand, though I do not agree

Secondly:
Yes ofc I can see that someone is making music just for the sake of money. But as I see it it doesen't affect my liking of the music. Something made with the intention of soley making money, can just be as good as something made out of the pure joy of creation. So to me, when I listen, I don't make a distiction if this particular music is art or not. It always is. Maybe art is a bad word to use, "experience" might be better suited. Music is always experience, which is life and which is vital. Maybe that explains better what I mean. I can also see that it's bad that I rule out the meaning of the word "art". In the typical sense, something made sole for profit is not art, yes.

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Erik

          
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the dreamer

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Posts :  5
Posted : Sep 11, 2009 18:13
love the riders on the storm rmx
infected done a great job there
Ah-sid


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Posts :  610
Posted : Sep 11, 2009 18:17


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What is all this babble?

Listen illiterate cunt, IM have no obligation towards you and don't need your permission to produce any kind of music they want to. I don't think you are some noteworthy trend-setter to decide what genre an artist ought to produce next either. If you don't like it - great - you can voice your opinion, but don't request others NOT to buy music. Dunce.

PS - The music is horrid nonetheless.

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oh...sory dude i didnt know that u were one of IM's crack groopie.no wonder u didnt wan me to tell people not to buy their album,cause that'l cut ur share of the crack and whores.btw if u care so much about them and dont like criticism,kindly request the mods to delete any reviews of IM's future albums cause there's gona b more shit on ur face.





Edward X

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Posts :  37
Posted : Sep 11, 2009 19:02
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On 2009-09-11 18:11, Melancholyman wrote:

(...)I can also see that it's bad that I rule out the meaning of the word "art". In the typical sense, something made sole for profit is not art, yes. (...)



I agree.
But to paraphrase another way:
IM are artists with talent.
And I also say. I didn`t care to pay to hear them in live performance.

Fu Hsi
Perfect Stranger

Started Topics :  5
Posts :  235
Posted : Sep 11, 2009 23:01
Personally I find this Infected Mushroom "slagging trend" pretty uncool, but it's also unavoidable I guess.

Every artist, whenever he or she make their art public, they basically give the public the rights to "lynch" them in case they have disappointed their followers.

I would, however, expect from the crowd to be a little more "grown up" ( am I crazy, it's the same crowd that prefers to drop "E" that lasts for 5 hours anytime, instead of spending the same exactly amount of money and buy their favorite artist album... ).. Yeah and as a "grown up" let your old idols, do what they want or decided to according to their personal interests and wishes... When Infected started making music, they never signed a contract that makes them liable to make just specific genre, and stay there. Where they go from that moment in time, is totally their choice...

And accordingly, if I must go there, then unlike all the bashing here, they fill up big clubs and play all over the planet.. Again, some may slag them again for making cheesy music and all, but the bottom line is simple and I guess this is what really annoying some of the people writing here.

I am not an Infected fan btw, I really admire their talent, unfortunately most of what they do is not my cup of tea ( Smashing The Opponent is killer pop song btw, anyway you turn it, I was personally singing it for couple of days after I heard it on the radio ), I just dislike all this "blind" hatred and slagging just cuz its cool and trendy to go down on someone.

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J
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posts :  3858
Posted : Sep 12, 2009 01:15
Quote:

On 2009-09-11 23:01, Fu Hsi wrote:
Personally I find this Infected Mushroom "slagging trend" pretty uncool, but it's also unavoidable I guess.

Every artist, whenever he or she make their art public, they basically give the public the rights to "lynch" them in case they have disappointed their followers.

I would, however, expect from the crowd to be a little more "grown up" ( am I crazy, it's the same crowd that prefers to drop "E" that lasts for 5 hours anytime, instead of spending the same exactly amount of money and buy their favorite artist album... ).. Yeah and as a "grown up" let your old idols, do what they want or decided to according to their personal interests and wishes... When Infected started making music, they never signed a contract that makes them liable to make just specific genre, and stay there. Where they go from that moment in time, is totally their choice...

And accordingly, if I must go there, then unlike all the bashing here, they fill up big clubs and play all over the planet.. Again, some may slag them again for making cheesy music and all, but the bottom line is simple and I guess this is what really annoying some of the people writing here.

I am not an Infected fan btw, I really admire their talent, unfortunately most of what they do is not my cup of tea ( Smashing The Opponent is killer pop song btw, anyway you turn it, I was personally singing it for couple of days after I heard it on the radio ), I just dislike all this "blind" hatred and slagging just cuz its cool and trendy to go down on someone.

My 2 paisa



Agree to every word of it.
However, it doens't make it sound better.
Fu Hsi
Perfect Stranger

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Posted : Sep 12, 2009 06:18
Well this is the point exactly - better than what?

Sound production of this album is second to none. Please choose your favorite artist of today and he doesn't stand a chance, his level of production would sound totally amateur when you play his stuff versus this.

And the compositions inside? Well, Infected are not making psy trance for ages now, maybe its just the time to move on. For a trance head especially with underground orientation, this music might sound completely off and even annoying, but some ppl that are not from the "scene" might find it cool. And if I am not mistaken, THAT is where Infected heading. They are performing alot in the States, as you maybe know, the Trance scene in the US is almost non existant. So the play in front of the same crowd that likes Brittney and EMINEM, and I do believe that their goal goes out to those crowds rather than the Psy Trance underground.

At least those crowds buy the music they like!!


          http://perfectlystrange.com
Yidam
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posted : Sep 12, 2009 09:25
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On 2009-09-12 06:18, Fu Hsi wrote:

At least those crowds buy the music they like!!




Very sharp point! So much so it stings.
J
IsraTrance Full Member

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Posts :  3858
Posted : Sep 12, 2009 15:46
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On 2009-09-12 06:18, Fu Hsi wrote:
Well this is the point exactly - better than what?

Sound production of this album is second to none. Please choose your favorite artist of today and he doesn't stand a chance, his level of production would sound totally amateur when you play his stuff versus this.

And the compositions inside? Well, Infected are not making psy trance for ages now, maybe its just the time to move on. For a trance head especially with underground orientation, this music might sound completely off and even annoying, but some ppl that are not from the "scene" might find it cool. And if I am not mistaken, THAT is where Infected heading. They are performing alot in the States, as you maybe know, the Trance scene in the US is almost non existant. So the play in front of the same crowd that likes Brittney and EMINEM, and I do believe that their goal goes out to those crowds rather than the Psy Trance underground.


Agree. It's all a matter of taste right?
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At least those crowds buy the music they like!!


What makes you so sure about this?
Elad
Tsabeat/Sattel Battle

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Posted : Sep 12, 2009 16:31
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On 2009-09-11 23:01, Fu Hsi wrote:
I just dislike all this "blind" hatred and slagging just cuz its cool and trendy to go down on someone.



first its not blind cause everyone listen to the music
second its not hate , its lost love.

its like tattoo your girlfriend name and when you break up you add fat ugly women around it lol.. we just want that the world know its not our friend anymore , and with all the respect psytrance is what put them on the map.
i sure hope they have as much more fun with whatever they want to do... i will probably always listen to their stuff from the old days and will check everytime they have new realese how more bad can it get.
after all their hiphop stinks compare to real hiphop , same with rock and all. they are masters with psytrance tho.. and this what make all the conflict for the people. i would say its only my opinion but the fact is that most of the trance scene people feel the same.. as if dali choose to draw circles instead his beautifull art.          www.sattelbattle.com
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Edward X

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Posts :  37
Posted : Sep 12, 2009 17:59
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On 2009-09-12 16:31, Elad wrote:

(...)i would say its only my opinion but the fact is that most of the trance scene people feel the same.. as if dali choose to draw circles instead his beautifull art.(...)




But Dali did it!!

http://suandonaneve.files.wordpress.com/2009/05/salvador-dali-galatea-of-the-spheres.jpg

tjaal
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posts :  113
Posted : Sep 12, 2009 19:09

some people just dont want to understand.
its not about "bashing" IM, or "hate", or defending theyr "right to do what they want to do". it just sound bad.
like john doe said, i agree with everything, but in the end it doesnt make it sound better
tjaal
IsraTrance Junior Member

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Posted : Sep 12, 2009 19:44
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On 2009-09-11 23:01, Fu Hsi wrote:

I would, however, expect from the crowd to be a little more "grown up" ( am I crazy, it's the same crowd that prefers to drop "E" that lasts for 5 hours anytime, instead of spending the same exactly amount of money and buy their favorite artist album... )..




maybe i didnt understand quite well your point of view about this since it was short (and even your other statement about who buys music).
...but it seems to be the old idea that buying music is just "buying the album".

IM makes a lot of money playing for huge crowds in brasil, mexico, with many of those people "that prefer to take and E than spend this money with the album". and it doesnt seem to be a problem to them.

its not about growing up. there are different people with different interests. i know many people that just listen psy-trance in parties, they would pay to go to a party but wouldnt pay to buy an album.
venom455

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Posts :  59
Posted : Sep 12, 2009 22:01
I have no idea what you guys are complaining about...This album is such a step forward compared to VD...Dont you find Franks, Project 100 or slowly ? or for that matter the riders on the storm remix psy enough?
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