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I was wonder , why the heck all these craps get release !
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Kaz
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Posted : Jan 27, 2003 19:23
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Any amazing track will be released under a compilation of just released tracks (like the Distance to Goa series, for instance). You don't HAVE to have all the music you know. If you do, buy it.
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yossi
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Posted : Jan 27, 2003 20:13
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sorry guys, but i just dont get the connection between releasing crapy music and between downloadings, i just cant find it.
and to the subject...
buy what u like, and dont buy what dont like.
but dont download
simple as that...
traders will always find a reason to download... in this case its so called "shity music... no time to hear @ store bla bla bla"... next month it`ll be something else.
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psydark_light
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Posted : Jan 27, 2003 20:20
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On 2003-01-27 20:13, yossi wrote:
sorry guys, but i just dont get the connection between releasing crapy music and between downloadings, i just cant find it.
and to the subject...
buy what u like, and dont buy what dont like.
but dont download
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there is a big connection between downloads and crapy music !
its hard to find good stuffs in the store between all the craps !
its take lots of time to listen and to search for good stuffs , till you get tired and buy some stupid CD or u don't buy nothing.
what if everyone of us will think positive about peace ?
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yossi
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Posted : Jan 27, 2003 21:36
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dont blame the artists or the labels coz u buy shity music...
and downloading has nothing to do with the topic - your Q was: "WHY the heck all these craps get release !"
so i dont see how downloading music amswers your Q.
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Zombi
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Posted : Jan 27, 2003 23:18
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about shopping process, believe me, im kinda master of this  so, at store u have more options to find the RIGHT release for u at this moment. i listen to 10-15 cd's at hour that i have once a week at store, so without spend too much time on dl and then listening and then deleting i can choose the sound that sounds most fit to my current needs and happy i take some cd to spend week with.
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Zombi
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Posted : Jan 27, 2003 23:33
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to kaz - i realy didnt ment to sounds upset, i only want to say that Spirit Zone realy one level up from other labels in the buesness meaning, in their globalic tuch and all this.
Spiralianz vs Space tribe
Fuenf D vs Electric Universe
Ololiuqui vs GMS
Shiva Chandra vs Sun Project
SBK vs Star Sound Orchestra
Gabriel Le Mar vs Etnica
and list go on..
do u see that tottal different names come from one label ?? its a long list of artists, some classic some fresh, that work with label years after years, releasing 3,4 or even 5 !! albums on same label, both sides happy..
Spirit Zone dont have their unique sound, they have unique size,XXXL.
they just trance label that innovate and from the other side keep old school, and its before we talk about Plusquam (that everybody somehow foun at last year and most forget their releases before dj Laureth came there, all this space techno they did 2 years before).
Twisted is a great label indeed, very quality and very realy magic, but agree that they make their sound, they providers of some specific noise, not less that great through.
same thing if we speak about marketing, promotion and other than release music activity. Spirit Zone have this Fucking Unbelieviable VooV Expirience festival that from my own voov expirience + visiting all the rest big festivals (well,almost all) realy one hell of party, if not the most complete dancefloor in the world.
also their radio show that get alot responding from all other the globe.
nothing to descuss about i think, just a thoughts...
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yossi
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Posted : Jan 27, 2003 23:47
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yap
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psydark_light
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Posted : Jan 28, 2003 00:26
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On 2003-01-27 21:36, yossi wrote:
dont blame the artists or the labels coz u buy shity music...
and downloading has nothing to do with the topic - your Q was: "WHY the heck all these craps get release !"
so i dont see how downloading music amswers your Q.
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the point of this topic :
to get more peoples to learn about the labels importance , and in hope that the labels in this forum and others will read it too and will try much harder to release better quality in the future.
and about the artists :
If they will understand it too , they can change it much more then we can !
artists with high quality , they better not release their quality stuffs in bad compilations that use them and make their music looks poor! and also with less sells.
artists with low quality , if you DON'T SURE that your music production is high , then it is probably not !
be patient , find some good label that will tell u if your music is good enough.
if not , don't release it , it may harm u in the future , and will hurt customers and will harm the trust in your releases in the future.
quality is the thing!
if labels will understand that we are not suckers , maybe they will stand for high standard in their releases !
peace
what if everyone of us will think positive about peace ?
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yossi
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Posted : Jan 28, 2003 00:32
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cool
and from all this... how do u manege to get to downloading?
bro... its or u just dont follow me, or u have problems in reading comprehension. dunno
peace
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psydark_light
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Posted : Jan 28, 2003 00:46
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if you would try to understand a bit more !!!!
you would recognize that I'm against those downloads!
and I think people downloading music because of low quality music :
because they don't want to go to the store and listen to many low quality stuffs and back home with nothing ! (spend their time and money for nothing worth it)
its hard to choose good release in the store because there are too much bad cds !
so psytrance fans understand that it is too hard to find something good in the store , and they don't have time to listen too many cds before buying those... so they find that downloads are not just free , but very comfortable to reduce time and money waste for low quality !
PS - yossi , I don't get why u try to deny everything , it can help you too (if you buy stuffs of course)!
what if everyone of us will think positive about peace ?
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Mike A
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Posted : Jan 28, 2003 00:48
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On 2003-01-27 21:36, yossi wrote:
dont blame the artists or the labels coz u buy shity music...
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They are to blame since the market is flooded with music which most of it sucks. It becomes really hard to find the quality releases...
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yossi
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Posted : Jan 28, 2003 00:59
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psydark... i never said that u download your music.
but i dont believe that if 100% of the release where great, then ppl wont download music anymore. it`ll never happen. thats y i dont find a connection in this whole story.
and mike - u dont find anything you like?... dont buy.
no one is forcing you guys to buy anything... if u like the music, support it. if not... leave it alone.
i think the labels & the artist will get the clue.
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Gilad Refael
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Posted : Jan 28, 2003 01:08
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why don't the labels raise their expectations from the artists and have more strict A&R.
that way we won't get compilation that have 1-2 good tracks from established artists and the rest is shit. what labels do is instead of taking 10 good (great?) tracks and putting them all into 1 compilation, they spread them in 2-3 compilations and fill the rest with shit.
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psydark_light
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Posted : Jan 28, 2003 01:16
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when it is low quality matter, it is not music (mostly), even for the most open minded !
and you right yossi, people always download music ,
BUT better quality releases will make the sells TRUSTFUL ,and this will make labels and artist earn much more money and will make us much more happy with the purchase!
PS -yossi ,are u label owner or something ?!
why do you support low quality music , is this something in your future plans?!
it hard to understand why you anti! what if everyone of us will think positive about peace ?
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yossi
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Posted : Jan 28, 2003 01:30
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i never said that i support low quality music, please dont put words in my mouth. and im also not anti... never was and never will be.
but standing here and lecturing about how bad is the music nowdays, it wont get u anywhere.
labels & artists will pay more attention to this issue in only one case... u need to take some actions and not only talking. DONT BUY WHAT YOU DONT LIKE!
if ppl will follow u, i believe that labels will star of thinking twise b4 releasing something.
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