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how to process this crunchy crisp Bass?

wirakocha
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Posted : Apr 11, 2014 21:33:49
I have a good tight Kick drum sample+eq, and a clear saw bass, what is the next step to process the bass in order could be saturator? eq? another plugin? sidechain?

here is the example of the kick bass combo






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Xsze


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Posted : Apr 11, 2014 22:04
First I would ensure I got best thing from source and EQ-ing and compression, than I would use Logic’s Phaser followed with PSP Vintage Warmer, nothing drastic, no heavy liftings, I find Logic’s Phaser jewel for this modern basslines, not that obvious as U He one, actually Oni Katsu brought that up to my attention and I like what he is doing with it, there is his screenshot flying around here somewhere and you can dig out some of his tracks in “Workshop” (thanks man, good tip), but mix, ears, tastes and all that, you can go overboard easily, especially with Phaser and PSP Vintage Warmer, it can bring something to the table and can more easily destroy everything, just like distortion or any drastic processing, my advice is to make a track trying to nail the best you can from eq-ing/compressing and tweaking source and than work in context or final mix, it can be revealing how little you need actually
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Posted : Apr 12, 2014 13:23
Sounds and looks just like a regular (pretty short) saw wave with a pretty high envelope amount (for the sharpness) and an instance of quadrafuzz slapped on to it to grind it up a little.
Xsze


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Posted : Apr 12, 2014 20:32
Good old Quadrafuzz, instant win
wirakocha
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Posted : Apr 12, 2014 21:22
It could be in order Clear saw wave+quadrafuzz+logic phaser+eq+sc ? this is right?

i don't use mac ,another alternative instead of logic phaser could be oligar phaser or d16 phaser?           d(((+_-)))b
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Xsze


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Posted : Apr 12, 2014 23:03
It could be only Quadrafuzz in your case, I don't have it, so I basically do what I think Quadra does with those two, even get something different/better out of it

If you want some order, Source>EQ>Compressor>Quadrafuzz>EQ

Analog Archangel

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Posted : Apr 13, 2014 01:25
I second what Xsze is saying, Quadrafuzz works wonders! Only works in Cubase though.

If you can't, get Ohmicide, it pretty much is the next best thing.
Hypereal


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Posted : Apr 13, 2014 02:24
here you go guys i found it one some free vst site,it works in presonus studio one that i use so it should be working in other daws http://speedy.sh/psB6X/QuadraFuzz.rar
Padmapani


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Posted : Apr 13, 2014 03:40
but not on DAWs that only use AUs...
wirakocha
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Posted : Apr 13, 2014 04:18
I have quadrafuzz working in ableton (i found a pack of all cubase sx plugins,but i don't remember where)
here i made test how it sound with all plugins mentioned above.





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Xsze


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Posted : Apr 13, 2014 04:59
Depends on what are you aiming here,
if you tried to come close to example you posted, you are way off,
if it’s magic of the moment, I think it’s little high for a bass, sounds like a percussion to me, it doesn’t work with a kick like a bass should,
you can easily layer sub and get some groove actually, but again, if that works for you and vision you have here,
than that’s all that matters really.
jizy
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Posted : Apr 13, 2014 06:03
either need to learn or remember where those unbalanced shitty frequencies sit...

that bass just sounds like any other wel mixed wel mastered bass,your bass stil has the boxy freqencies peaking above fundimetl in3n4th harmonic lomid area ,sumwhere annoying in 200-400 needs attunating..

id be inclined to start a new patch instead tho because i like to eq a nice original sound,that coould b a road to a crisp bass

go by ear and the fundmtle/harmonic grid on ya parametric eq

lower octave
learning doesnt ever stop

quadrafuz? doesnt matter as there r other ways to get that non linear "Multibandsplit" tone
in my abolished absolute transworthy opinion
twonezero
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Posted : Apr 14, 2014 12:16
it sounds like quadrafuzz often but it is else stuff..
there are many many ways to do it - in the end what goes fastest is best for you , (i sample all)

i will try the phaser from Logic today! thanks for that tip.

can you post a Picture from the bass audio? so we can read it together here and i go through the Processing. Hugs           www.facebook.com/twonezero
jizy
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Posted : Apr 14, 2014 17:32
Ohmicide will not produce the character quadrafuz does... for its linear multiband crossovers.

ll3multi gets me closer-add as many as u like til sound is thickened ta taste not to many tho as phase distortion becomes mud

twonezero - post picture from the bass audio and read it together?

if u mean post pictures on the threads yeh,just by loading it it up on a file share site then posting a jpeg link


wirakocha
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Posted : Apr 14, 2014 20:05
thanx for your tips guys here another test made with another vsti





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