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how to process this crunchy crisp Bass?
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Xsze
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Posted : Apr 14, 2014 21:53
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Yeah, definitely better than last  |
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 14, 2014 23:03
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yeh much better, now get rid of those really horrible underworld bornslippy chord hits and noises in the background and make a fresh track with it..
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basil rush
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Posted : Apr 15, 2014 00:59
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Sounds great - really tight - that last soundcloud version. But lacking in a bit bottom end? It sounds like it could use a touch of extra bum (sub 80Hz somewhere) in the studio here.
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wirakocha
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Posted : Apr 15, 2014 03:58
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On 2014-04-15 00:59, basil rush wrote:
Sounds great - really tight - that last soundcloud version. But lacking in a bit bottom end? It sounds like it could use a touch of extra bum (sub 80Hz somewhere) in the studio here.
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I boost the bass in the frequencies of the key of the bass "B" 61hz ,you suggest make another boost in 80hz?
pd. what monitors are you using?
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 15, 2014 05:01
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i no pro but i do kno this..
i suggest u dont boost there...
cutting instead to exposes a freq u want.. saves headroom,balance them instead
only boost with crap de bap... doesnt need boostin more otherwise shits guna start to shake
i suggest u change the note instead...so that the fundamental can have a nice deep "bum" lol with the sweaty kick drum... with lube of course hahahaha  belly laugh is what i needed
its lacking in bottom becasue of the fact the fundamental is sitting at 61,boosting at 80 is not going to do jack and will only introduce a peak that wont improve anysense of fulness
althou you could push your kick down there 38-55 somwhere and let that have the meat... just that u wont have that nice warm Compliment of two subbys enjoying each-others company .
then again if thats what your going for then coolio.. happy beeeee bumble bee
correct me if im wrong there pros...^^^^
off topicish i just wana say....
as for tuning it with a kick..MEh no need.. nothing wrong having bass at 36 and kick at 49 or other way round.. aslong as they like eachother let there love 4 eachother grow thats what is say
btw.... Monitors = Fuck all if u lack the insight
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makus
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Posted : Apr 15, 2014 12:38
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the second version sounds better but the kick doesnt have any sub and is really weak in low end in general. that creates an obstacle for tweaking the bass correctly.
try putting rbass on kick first. 60 hz with intensity around -22 to -18 db. not sure, have to listen. maybe in headphones, depends on your room and monitors.
after that the bass will have to start working.
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twonezero
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Posted : Apr 16, 2014 16:43
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wirakocha
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Posted : Apr 16, 2014 19:34
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reading the interview of cosmosis about the kick and bass he said you can't have both (kick and bass) fighting for the subfrecuencies , i used bazzsim for the kick i think is weak for subfrecuencies a will layer a kick sample for the body.
this is right?
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 16, 2014 20:21
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bazzism at first it weak fundamentally... say for example you choose a sub of 46 (f# my fav)
i would then boost 46 til it reaches above the 50-100 region kinda matching.. check your analyzer , it always starts off way down there,sooooo boost it...
he ment ovalaping or ontop eachother thel fight.. i think your getting misunderstood
(now i see why you chose b1)
you can stil have both down there just make sure they can both breathe and work in unison
wether u tune both 2gether or not is upto u, i personally dont see the big deal
usaully trying bass 46 and kick 41... E is stil in the minor scale of f# so why not? or any others above that, why not?
another favorite is d#.. bass can have that then put kick above or tuned.. doesnt matter, aslong they got space inbetween
@twonezero - i dont kno what u mean? what audio file?
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aseem
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Posted : Apr 17, 2014 02:29
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Is there a way to use Logic phaser on cubase..
I use cubase 7 and I have Logic installed too..
I just don't feel like learning Logic and i am very comfortable with Cubase.
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 17, 2014 02:57
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i thought this was bassline crisp... dont think phaser wil make paket of crisp character...
would make it liquid ,not unless your not goin to use lfo to modulate it and shift thru to find sweet spot?
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Xsze
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Posted : Apr 17, 2014 02:58
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It doesn't need to be Logic's Phaser, I just find it excellent and capable
I just expanded on what would I do in first place to get the bass I hear, nothing else, it's not ultimate truth/rule/must do or I will actually defend it, it's something I picked up along the way and I like the results of it, same as the previous person that brought that up to my attention, he picked up from someone else and so on, if it doesn't work, it doesn't, if does, awesome |
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 17, 2014 03:04
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ahhh i c... yeh why not.
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 17, 2014 03:55
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isnt what they talkin about , the same as using waves X-split almost.. its not a phaser as such but it does give that same thickness kind of that i can hear what they talking about,
obviously shutting off the widener
produces similar results .. can any1 confirm this..
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jizy
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Posted : Apr 17, 2014 05:12
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On 2014-04-11 22:04, Xsze wrote:
First I would ensure I got best thing from source and EQ-ing and compression, than I would use Logic’s Phaser followed with PSP Vintage Warmer, nothing drastic, no heavy liftings, I find Logic’s Phaser jewel for this modern basslines, not that obvious as U He one, actually Oni Katsu brought that up to my attention and I like what he is doing with it, there is his screenshot flying around here somewhere and you can dig out some of his tracks in “Workshop” (thanks man, good tip), but mix, ears, tastes and all that, you can go overboard easily, especially with Phaser and PSP Vintage Warmer, it can bring something to the table and can more easily destroy everything, just like distortion or any drastic processing, my advice is to make a track trying to nail the best you can from eq-ing/compressing and tweaking source and than work in context or final mix, it can be revealing how little you need actually
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Back into the light....
tried experiment years ago with this but wasnt doing it right..phaser on kick. thanks speakerfreaka and thanks Xsze...
check the FFT wen this happens right setting, its like the kick is asking the bassline to make love with it..
lots 0f possibilities to be reawakened,now i kno its a good mix method confirmed.. better than a paket of crisp, like liquid lunch
and colin... no worries there aint gunna be an outbrake of badly phased kick and bass loops.. its under control lol...great method |
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