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good hardware eq for bus and mastering

PoM
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Posted : May 2, 2012 18:30
nice man i have read more about the baxx it look like a really great unit but not enought flexible for my needs ,you bought it wihtout trying first?

based on the sontec i asked him i wait for his answer it will probably sound more to his taste with the opamps choice and other stuff he use...probbly same frequency plots ,maybe a few more and same eq curves from the original .
the mep250 cost 2750/3000 dollars i thinks the price is not much cut ,you remove lot of R/D.

have read only very positive comment about his gears ,i will report later if i go this way.

then i will need a good vca comp to control the dynamic , my dream would be the elysia alpha but it cost so much..maybe one day..but for now i will probably go with a ssl clone like the tk audio one , with my culture vulture mastering for coloration
Babaluma
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Posted : May 2, 2012 21:09
yeah, the bax is needed in my chain, simple as that, no need to try before buying. it's not like a regular eq at all, more like the tone controls on a stereo, albeit very high quality. but you're right, definitely not the thing you need if you are looking for a flexible parametric!

yeah, i guess there are no R&D costs involved if it's just a sontec clone. anyway, i would love to hear your thoughts if you do get it!

i'm using chandler germanium compressors, they are fet based but extremely versatile, still learning new things about them after using them daily for about four years! a couple of my friends have the phoenix mastering versions in their studios (vari mu comps), and they like them a lot, but i haven't had much time to play with them myself.

i always found the culture vulture way too coloured for mastering use, even the mastering version.

hopefully bax will turn up soon, can't wait!           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
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Posted : May 2, 2012 22:08
phoenix would be nice ,i may replace the culture vulture with it later if i get tired of the color but i love how it can limit peaks and make the transients round but give more punch at same time with the grab on some material..but yes really not transparent.. a small amount in parrallel can be nice.
i have the mastering plus version with mullard dunno if it s the one you used , it can be "clean" but it s still very colored if you compare to some transparent mastering gears , for electronic itb mix it can be just the ticket as it can make stuff more punchy ,round and open when it work
Babaluma
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Posted : May 2, 2012 22:22
cool, yeah i guess in parallel it could be useful.           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
PoM
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Posted : May 2, 2012 22:25
yeah it work great but it make it expensive to have a box like this and use it just for that,don't worht it imo.. not something i would recomend for just mastering ...
same for the distressors it s colored but squasing the signal in parrallel with dist 2 mode can work really great ,i still have one and i think i m gonna sell it to buy something more aimed at bus compression/ mastering but i will miss it so much later..i like it on everyhting , on synths, on drums..
Babaluma
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Posted : May 11, 2012 11:58
Bax arrived today, will pick it up this evening!           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
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Posted : May 12, 2012 23:35
nice man , so how you enjoying it? does it add a little sheen to the sound or it s very transparent?

right now after lot of thought i m not sure to go for the eq , i m debating with selling some stuff and upgrade monitoring /room acoustic
Babaluma
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Posted : May 13, 2012 14:43
Only done a few tests so far, but am really loving it. It's extremely transparent in usage, and in its overall sound. You only need to give it +0.5dB at 74Hz to give the bass a really nice lift. Perfect at the end of the mastering chain, where you might just want to "tilt" things slightly up or down, or give it a slight "smiley curve".

The filters are great too, you can boost the "air" frequencies with the high shelf, but then bring the low pass filter down to reduce harshness, or vice versa, give it a fat bass bump with the low shelf, but then use the high pass filter to get rid of headroom sucking subsonic information.

Cool, which monitors are you thinking of getting? Been hearing ridiculously good things about the Tyler Acoustics Decade range on a lot of the mastering forums recently. Interview with the designer in the latest SquareCad mastering podcast.

http://www.tyleracoustics.com/Decade.html

http://squarecad.net/ArchivePages/squarecad40-tyleracoustics.html

I'm pretty happy with my ATC's, if I upgrade I'd probably go for the 50's instead of the 20's, but I saw a pair in the flesh for the first time a couple of days ago, and to be honest I think they'd be way too big for my current room.          http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
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Posted : May 13, 2012 23:07
nice man , the bax is expensive but i can see how it could become something you can t live wihtout in a mastering chain !

about speakers i don t know still not decided if i go this way, the atc medium driver is one of the best , i might go with a speaker that use it (but it need to be well implemented !) or barefoot micromain 35 maybe.. but i will need to save for months and will end with 5 pairs of middle range /crappy monitors in the end lol , need to sell some but i like all their sound
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Posted : May 14, 2012 00:10
http://www.wilmslow-audio.co.uk/k100-5-p.asp

i guess this could piss on some monitors costing way more
gonna investigate to get the best bang for the buck
Babaluma
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Posted : May 14, 2012 10:55
Have heard about the Wilmslow kits before. Be careful, as they are apparently NOT the same ATC drivers that ATC use in their own products. Add to this a different cabinet and materials and you're probably going to end up with something that sounds fairly different from an ATC monitor. Not to say it won't sound good, but have read that they are quite different. See here:

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/130180-post97.html

Yeah, sell all your mid range speakers and buy something great! I mostly use just one pair of monitors and one pair of headphones to check, then a "grot box" test by running the audio through MacBook speakers.           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
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Posted : May 14, 2012 11:41
thanks man for the link !

i m intrested in sealed speakers but the barefoot are so expensive...do you know some others brands that make some? i know just kh/ neuman (and they use the atc middle driver in some models)
Babaluma
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Posted : May 14, 2012 17:53
I'd suggest the Focal Twin6 Be (or even the little Solos), they are sealed and two different friends have pairs, and both rate them very highly.

I think you'll find more ported than sealed designs out there, at least in this price range, people seem to love their "woofy" bass.

Took me a while to get used to my ATC sealed monitors, there's less apparent bass than other monitors I've tried, but they extend down further, and give you a truer image overall I think.           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
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Posted : May 14, 2012 20:29
yep the focal are nice but not a big upgrade, i already pick my adam p22 over the solo years ago , funny thing is now i use mostly my focal cms 65 that i love for production .

have to check more "obscure" brand i m sure lot of great speakers are not much hyped on the net.

do you know proac ? i have read good things
Babaluma
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Posted : May 18, 2012 14:09
sorry not to get back to you sooner. have heard of proac, but have never read much about them or used any of their products.

yes, there seem to be a lot of speaker manufacturers, many of which are not well known in the pro audio world, but are used successfully for audio production by professionals.           http://hermetechmastering.com : http://www.discogs.com/artist/Gregg+Janman : http://soundcloud.com/babaluma
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